Lynch All Lurkers Mafia! GAME OVER

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, do an analysis on Malyss.

She was next, it's in my Notepad file in another window.

[Xylthixlm]

@ MafiaSSK

Do you k

no

w why a scumbag would fake a PR?

T

o avoid saying anyt

h

ing

that

m

i

ght get him

s

elf caught.

Him

s

elf or his buddies.

I can't make heads nor tails of this post. There aren't even matching [color] tags.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am here. The thread got opened up while I was slaving away at work. Reading through the thread, I was going to address Elvis' post about the scum points, but I see that Troll has already tackled that.

I think that I'm going to build an Excel Spreadsheet to track activity. I am concerned about the possibility of losing track of people after their names have disappeared from Tajo's lurker list during our first day.

Weekends tend to be blurs of activity.

Still being new to the scene and not having played with pretty much anyone other than MafiaSSK, who was an IC in my last newbie game, I haven't much to offer on meta related observations.

I am rereading and taking a look at the Zwet wagon.

Malyss, doesn't Yos feed you MS gossip?

Not really. I don't have secondhand meta information through him.

I don't think Yos would put such a restrictive PR in a game like this, where lurking is heavily discouraged. Or a PR at all at that. And you're a person I can see faking a PR.

I don't know. Yos is a sadistic bastard.

Granted, I'm not entirely buying the supposed MafiaSSK post restriction.

I took "pains" to make it easy for everyone to examine Malyss' contribution at leisure. And so that there is no excuse for everyone to see it.

There are many types of scum profiles. This is the sort of scum flavor that Stephoscope was displaying in Prisoner's Dilemma, so he might recognize it.

The first post says nothing. It's very safe; she just states that she was going to say something, but someone else said it already. She doesn't bother to state whether she agrees or not. Maybe that's too committal.

The second, she pretends that she's going to be helpful in a neutral, non-scumhunting sort of way, tracking time stamps on Excel. But then she doesn't come through with that plan. Again, perfectly neutral. She expresses vague "pro-town" feelings that seem manufactured to me.

In the third post, she makes excuses of lack of metas. OK, let's buy it. Then she moves on with a promise of a re-read, and an examination of the zwet wagon. Like the Excel time stamp tracking, she doesn't come through this promise either.

In the fourth, her answer to elvis is neutral and void: "I have no information," to paraphrase.

In the fifth and last, also neutral and void: "I don't know; I'm not sure," to paraphrase again.

All in all, she fits to a tee the profile of the scumbuddy that wants to steer clear of the zwet mess.

She may not be the only one, she may not be the worse. More players waiting in line to lay on my couch. Next!

[DrippingGoofball]

wolfcrier is next. He's a bit like Malyss, so putting them side by side is going to make them easier to compare.

[Ether]

4 populartajo (roflcopter, image, q21, elvis_knits)
2 DrippingGoofball (Empking, Stephoscope)
2 MafiaSSK (Zorblag, ortolan)
2 Malyss (Xtoxm, Xylthixlm)

7 Unvote (antihero, BrianMcQueso, DrippingGoofball, MafiaSSK, Malyss, populartajo, wolfcrier)

17 alive; 9 to lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

AHHH sorry I just got home and last time I looked I think it was locked! Sorry for appearing lurkish...

VOTE: Zorblag

the picture creeps me out...

Yeah sorry been reading so I can catch up, I seriously doubt the Zwet train is "smart" on the towns spot. Maybe it's because I haven't played a game with him in it so I don't have his meta, but everyone jumping on the bandwagon for stupid reasons like he trapped you into thinking he would lurk is just dumb.

unvote

Ok sorry, quite a busy week! Ok well I feel kind of stupid with my whole, not jumping on the zwet bandwagon... I just skimmed through the posts to see the voting for MafiaSSK on account of claiming P.R. I will have to go back and look through these. Sorry again on not posting so frequently... I will post soon after I thouroughly reading the posts on the claim with my response.

Ok after re-reading the posts, I have determined that the post-restriction, as everyone has already said, really doesn't make any sense if he is town. However, not willing to jump on this wagon quite yet. Also the post by zwet claiming he wants to self-hammer, and Antiheroes encouragement made me a little uneasy, however Zwet believe Antihero was scum and Antihero wanted Zwet to die. Possible bussing so...
FoS:Antihero or MafiaSSK

Above is all of wolfcrier's contribution so far.

This is "lurking in plain sight" in "Lynch All Lurkers."

It's hard to decide if wolfcrier's passive lurking is worse than Malyss, who is actively ignoring and staying neutral, but I'm leaning that Malyss is way worse.

[MafiaSSK]

@ MafiaSSK

Do you k

no

w why a scumbag would fake a PR?

T

o

avoid saying anyt

h

ing

that

m

i

ght get him

s

elf caught.

Him

s

elf or his buddies.

I can't make heads nor tails of this post. There aren't even matching [color] tags.

[MafiaSSK]

Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him. We are indeed unconfirmed to each other. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.

[Antihero]

@ MafiaSSK

Do you k

no

w why a scumbag would fake a PR?

To avoid saying anyt

h

ing

that

m

i

ght get him

s

elf caught.

Him

s

elf or his buddies.

I got rid of the messed up tag.

noh that is s

nothing that is s?????

Am I on the right track?

[MafiaSSK]

@ MafiaSSK

Do you k

no

w why a scumbag would fake a PR?

To avoid saying anyt

h

ing

that

m

i

ght get him

s

elf caught.

Him

s

elf or his buddies.

I got rid of the messed up tag.

noh that is s

nothing that is s?????

Am I on the right track?

It should say No in the first line. Followed by That is s(tupid).

[Xylthixlm]

DGB and populartajo get added to the provisional townlist, along with MafiaSSK and Steph.

Town

Xylthixlm
roflcopter
elvis_knits
populartajo
DrippingGoofball
Stephoscope*
MafiaSSK*

* Claim-based

[Stephoscope]

Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him. We are indeed unconfirmed to each other. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.

I don't mean to spoil your fun or anything, but I hardly think we'd be better off with you lynched.

And you hadn't said *a single word* in the mason lounge, despite my efforts.

[DrippingGoofball]

ORTOLAN

Please explain my change in meta. I'm acting more serious than usual? Is that a bad thing? Are meta changes in general a bad thing? Antihero, so half of your "case" is confusion over my early silly posts, the first of which was NOT an excuse to lurk at all, and parroting of someone else's unfounded paranoia. tajo, why don't you actually read the 7P game if you're so anxious to find some scum meta on me. I was also scum in Red Horse mafia, if it matters.

I think this is the most serious/earnest I've ever seen zwet, and possibly his longest post also. Scared scum.

I can't say "definite scum" here, but it the sort of uncanny insight that a player would tend to get on his buddy.

Ortolan demands a claim from zwet, but he never votes zwet.

Ortolan was significantly, though subtly, more gung-ho about the MafiaSSK wagon: "I would be perfectly happy policy-lynching MafiaSSK in a game like this- you just know he's going to lurk and you're not going to know whether it's from a scum or just him-being-him agenda. The fact he's been blatantly scummy with a dodgy PR claim (and thus can't really be of any use anyway) is just the icing on the cake." There are a few posts like that one. He seems a lot more bloodthirsty, whereas he was more circumspect with zwet. You should read his posts in isolation to get a feel for this, don't take my word for it. And because it's a "feeling" I'd appreciate knowing if it's just me, or if others perceive something similar as well.

Under the heading "weird scumtells," ortolan doesn't have a bee in his bonnet calling me scum all the time. That's not something I've ever seen before, I'm not sure which column it fits in.

But as far as the zwet wagon goes, he was in it, sorta, one foot in the water, one foot on the shore. That leans scum so far.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him. We are indeed unconfirmed to each other. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.

Un

confirmed?

Isn't that the exact opposite of what Steph has been saying, or are there gas leaks in my house affecting my thinking?

[roflcopter]

i agree with dgb's analysis of malyss

i disagree with her conclusion that brian mcq is town

i strongly disagree with her analysis of ort, and she is incorrect in saying he never votes zwet. he was in fact the second player on the wagon

[Zorblag]

OK, Troll was in the middle of posting something else and will probably continue to do that but:

Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him.

We are indeed unconfirmed to each other

. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.

I am 100% certain that MafiaSSK is town.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Xylthixlm]

Sigh. Fucking Steth. Yeah, I'm DayMasons with him. We are indeed unconfirmed to each other. No, we have not really said much in the mason lounge.

Un

confirmed?

Isn't that the exact opposite of what Steph has been saying, or are there gas leaks in my house affecting my thinking?

Would've been nice if Steph had answered my questions so we would know if there was a inconsistency here, wouldn't it?

[DrippingGoofball]

Q21

I change my mind. I don't think he should be in my "possibly scum" column, upon closer consideration.

He knows zwet's meta, and in his short defense, which was really half-defense and half-damnation, he was very fair, and very accurate in his description of zwet's play.

A lot of his posts are steering the town in positive and productive directions.

So yeah. Never mind. Q21 is off my radar.

[roflcopter]

well we're not lynching either of the daymasons today or any time soon, so lets get back to the task at hand, namely picking which of the obvious zwet partners we're gonna take out.

[Stephoscope]

I am sending a PM to the mod to make sure I can say what I need to say (regarding my role PM) without a modkill.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am a Daymason, and

I know with 100% certainty that MafiaSSK is town-aligned

.

Xyl, did you miss this? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[DrippingGoofball]

i strongly disagree with her analysis of ort, and she is incorrect in saying he never votes zwet. he was in fact the second player on the wagon

My analysis of ortolan is pretty middle of the road, what's to "strongly disagree with?"

Though upon double checking, I did miss his zwet vote, which was a the top of his post rather than the traditional bottom.

[Xylthixlm]

I am a Daymason, and

I know with 100% certainty that MafiaSSK is town-aligned

.

Xyl, did you miss this? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nope!

I am a Daymason, and I know with 100% certainty that MafiaSSK is town-aligned.

Just to be clear, this statement

excludes

the following possibilities:
You are a daymason with MafiaSSK, but

your role PM does not confirm him as town

. (Scum masons exist, so you can't be 100% certain.)
You are a daymason-cop with an innocent on MafiaSSK. (Godfathers exist, so you can't be 100% certain.)

If you actually mean either of the above, you should correct yourself

right now

, because if contrary information comes up later you will be caught in a lie.

One of Steph or MafiaSSK is lying about the mason role PM, or they're both lying about being masons. The question is, which one?

[roflcopter]

i strongly disagree with her analysis of ort, and she is incorrect in saying he never votes zwet. he was in fact the second player on the wagon

My analysis of ortolan is pretty middle of the road, what's to "strongly disagree with?"

Though upon double checking, I did miss his zwet vote, which was a the top of his post rather than the traditional bottom.

you seem to think there's any reasonable possibility of him being scum. thats what i disagree with.

[Stephoscope]

I am sending a PM to the mod to make sure I can say what I need to say (regarding my role PM) without a modkill.

This PM has been sent.