War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[WaltWishbone]

DGB- any chance of a Food Fight sequel?

/pre-in

[Kinetic]

Kinetic: as soon as we pressured him he became horridly anti-town and started attacking copter, me, trying to bring the whole town down just because he feels there was some injustice against him.

Your method of playing was the ONLY reason the scum could win after the Shinnen lynch. It was because of the way you rofl and Fonz were playing that they even had a chance.

If you three were lynched and I wasn't, or hell, if you three were lynched and even if I was the town won this game.

[The Fonz]

Erm, WE WERE all lynched. Except rofl. And don't forget Xyl.

Of course, IF YOU'D MENTIONED THERE WAS A RAGE CAP we'd probably have won.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The difference between you and me is our intentions.

Town: You played HORRIBLY. And not the good horrible, like Dr. Horrible. I mean like you wanted to lose horrible.

You want town to lose. I want town to win.

You feel that a great injustice was inflicted on you and you will try to make the town lose.

I will go down fighting SCUM.

That's the difference, Kinetic. And that's what makes me a better team player than you.

[WaltWishbone]

I knew what DGB would do as scum: that she would call for no bussing no distancing and all that, and to focus all the scum on one player, but what fucked me up was that at every turn, there were players who were falling exactly into the scum's hands:

Kinetic: as soon as we pressured him he became horridly anti-town and started attacking copter, me, trying to bring the whole town down just because he feels there was some injustice against him.

Weyouns: I've never been so disappointed in a player in my entire stay on mafiascum.

Hoopla: Says that I have to die because I'm anti-town, not realizing that I was the scum's biggest threat.

Q21: SK. Not sure if he went after me because he thought I was a threat to him, or because he thought I was scum.

Zwet and Viqles: Sheep.

Nuwen and Giuseppe: Piece of cake for them to attack me now since they were among many other players.

My late game performance was disastrous, yes. Its interesting that even with a majority of players wanting me dead, the scum couldn't get rid of me because of players like roflcopter, Fonz, etc.

Xyl: I think he thought that DGB was town because DGB was supporting him with everything. Clever move by the scum there.

You know, people said that I support whoever supports me, so the easiest way for scum to win is just do whatever I say. This is simply not true, and the scum realized this after Shinnen supported me, and I hurt her. A truer statement would be that Xyl supports whoever supports him. He didn't suspect a thing.

Another wise move by the scum not to hurt me, and I curse Weyouns one more time for being the first one to hurt me. That must have been the happiest moment in the world for the scum/SK.

I wish Walt had claimed Seraph instead of saying "Nuwen and Copter will bring us to victory so it doesn't matter if the rest of us die!"

I don't think I played terribly, but I definitely did a bad job by my own standards. Xyl / Seraphim getting lynched shouldn't have happened. I goofed that one bad.

But then again, Xyl was so damn brainwashed by the scum he might as well have been scum himself. I should have trusted my initial instincts.

I'm happy for this game in retrospect. Thanks for the game Flay; I just achieved another milestone in my game.

Yeah, I was too tunneled on Xyl at that point... I kinda went back and forth on a 2-2 and 3-1 Seraph. ROFL was town IMO over Nuwen at that point if it was 2-2... lol, the sad thing is as much as I tunneled on XYL looking at Mr. Flays spread sheet it was Nuwen who took most my hit points.... I really screwed up there.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm sorry, wrong quote. This is the correct quote:

My attackers were utter idiots, but your move was calm and calculated. I knew you were scum and I held my tongue because at that point in the game I wanted town to lose for letting the wild dogs run free and not taking them outside and killing them.

[Kinetic]

Erm, WE WERE all lynched. Except rofl. And don't forget Xyl.

Of course, IF YOU'D MENTIONED THERE WAS A RAGE CAP we'd probably have won.

Oh and here is the scum PM from the other game

In addition to your usual powers, the force of your betrayal and anger give you strength. Every Sunday at noon (server time), you will receive 1 Rage Point that you may use in a secret attack by PMing me with a player's name. This damage will be reflected in the next damage tally, but not associated with your name. You may store them up, to a maximum of 3. If you are killed/cast out, you lose any remaining points.

You begin the game with 8 HP. You win if all loyal angels are killed, and at least one fallen angel survives. You may talk to your fellow (living) fallen angels outside of the game thread at any time, since this game is Nightless. If you are killed/cast out, stop talking.

4th post of the game.

Fonz. It was mentioned multiple times that a rage cap was HIGHLY likely.

[The Fonz]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

[Firestarter]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

In all honesty, I though that building every one up to +1 HP was a very very pro-town idea, regardless of a rage cap or not.

[Firestarter]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Plus, chances are, the way the game went, the person that would have brought this up would have been lynched on the spot.

[The Fonz]

Nope. Antitown, in absence of rage cap and kill-based rage.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB- any chance of a Food Fight sequel?

/pre-in

Yes, quite possibly after I return from SF, in May. Expect delicious Nutraloaf from the prison cafeteria. I hear it makes a great projectile.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Oh and Firestarter, you played a great game. Much respect for you.

[Firestarter]

Oh and Firestarter, you played a great game. Much respect for you.

Thank you, but I think I could have played better, if I concentrated less on the game mechanic.. but thats the way of the crumbling cookie Im afraid.

If Flay resurrects the Loyals,

Im well PRE-Ined for i

t..
A Great setup, and Flay can only be commended for his work here.

[Firestarter]

Nope. Antitown, in absence of rage cap and kill-based rage.

Why is strengthening towns positon anti-town?

[DrippingGoofball]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Plus, chances are, the way the game went, the person that would have brought this up would have been lynched on the spot.

That's correct; and the town would have pushed that lynch harder than the scum.

[Firestarter]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Plus, chances are, the way the game went, the person that would have brought this up would have been lynched on the spot.

That's correct; and the town would have pushed that lynch harder than the scum.

Exactly.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yo Flay! Make a Loyal majority vs. Fallen minority again! I want to be one of the good guys again

[WaltWishbone]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Plus, chances are, the way the game went, the person that would have brought this up would have been lynched on the spot.

True, thats the other thing that bugged me about this game, so many people werent reading. You had like four hp's taken from you before you finished even replacing in and reading the thread. People kept writing, hurt Drench, hurt Drench...and he was long gone, lol..

DGB- any chance of a Food Fight sequel?

/pre-in

Yes, quite possibly after I return from SF, in May. Expect delicious Nutraloaf from the prison cafeteria. I hear it makes a great projectile.

woot... lol, I had a nutraloft screencap from youtube tattoed on my left buttock until last week....they made me remove it because of copyright infringement.

le sigh.

[DrippingGoofball]

I panicked the most when players were considering healing another. It was wasting our hurts, our rage points, it could have blacked us out in the QT (each death was only 48 hours of daytalk), and we could have gotten caught trying to kill a player, resulting in a confirmed townie... heals were disasters for us.

Except for the heals on me! Those were good.

[Kinetic]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Because we didn't know that there were only 3 team scum left. What am I psychic now?

However, I did say that

Ha. Its kind of funny, I just did some math:

Assuming the lowest HP total is 7, all players can have at least 8 HP.

Assuming everything that is said about rage mechanics is true in this game, that means at most scum can only hold up to 3 rage points.

Assuming Scum have 4 or 5 players, at BEST they can only kill one person out right and wound a second.

Assuming scum is 6 or 7 players, at BEST they can only kill 2 players outright...

Interesting...

I KNEW I posted this. Very early in the game too Fonz. After the Shinnen lynch.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Kinetic

I'm really glad that you died early and no one listened to you.

[Kinetic]

The difference between you and me is our intentions.

Town: You played HORRIBLY. And not the good horrible, like Dr. Horrible. I mean like you wanted to lose horrible.

You want town to lose. I want town to win.

You feel that a great injustice was inflicted on you and you will try to make the town lose.

I will go down fighting SCUM.

That's the difference, Kinetic. And that's what makes me a better team player than you.

Bad Team Player?

You helped kill me not because you thought I was scum, but because we had a disagreement over HOW to play the game. You wanted to kill me so that you could run the game the way you wanted.

That is the reason I'm a better player than you.

The ENTIRE time you were attacking me I wasn't sure if you were scum or not and I was asking for HEALS because I didn't want to hurt what I thought were townies.

If we had followed the way I wanted to play instead of being FORCED to play by your, fonz, and rofl's rules, we would have won.

[Firestarter]

Yet you never brought up 'scum cannot kill someone from full +1 hp' EVER.

Plus, chances are, the way the game went, the person that would have brought this up would have been lynched on the spot.

True, thats the other thing that bugged me about this game, so many people werent reading. You had like four hp's taken from you before you finished even replacing in and reading the thread. People kept writing, hurt Drench, hurt Drench...and he was long gone, lol..

I thought Town were very poor when it came to picking up valid scum signs.
But the Fact that 2 of those hurts came from Fonz & Seraphim tells alot really.

Drench had hardly said a word in the actual thread, let alone anything scummy. Yet town went after him AFTER he wanted to be replaced.

Baffling.

[Kinetic]

@ Kinetic

I'm really glad that you died early and no one listened to you.

Yea, I know >>.