Mini 756: La Cosa Nostra - Over!

[Ztife]

I was working under the impression that Juls wasn't the freakin' doctor. I'm used to set-ups where doctors can't protect themselves so I automatically ruled out Juls as the doctor.

That was still stupid, it still doesn't frickin justify hammering me in any other way.

Hammering me was pure stupidity.

You really spoilt my game big time. I woudn't have mind if we lost, but i just can't take it down from a stupid action like that.

[Ztife]

On extra notes, I was leaning towards sordos or RBT being doc, more of RBT towards the end of D3. There was a chance to hammer RBT D3 which I didn't because I wanted to hear more from sordos and the possibility of him being doc. Juls and Ad were probably the ones I wanna bring towards the end, I could see a convenient excuse to push blame to Ad and lynch him when the need arises. Philly was also good to keep, unfortunately his lynch was too fast and maf didn't manage to capitalise on that... it goes on and on, i really gave this game quite abit of thought despite the inactivity of the thread.

[Seraphim]

Alright, I want to express my anger at the mod for some things and then I'll calm ztife down.

1. Set-up tilted heavily in favor of town. There was a lot of roles meant to dick with the scum rather than help the town...doctor, PGO, ThAd's role, and, of course, the vig. And scum only got a roleblocker, which by the way...

2. WAS OUTED! RAAAAAGH. This pissed me off as it cancelled the only element of surprise the scum had. Three scum was kinda a given but I don't think the single modkill was enough to balance that. That was where I started to lose hope in the cause, coming right after sordos's NK...

3. Not so much a point of anger, but a quicktopic would have been REALLY nice.

4. Finally, why was the doctor self-protecting? That's not standard and really, really cheap.

Now, ztife, hammering you wasn't stupid...I was bussing for townie cred. I was hoping that Porkens would kill off RBT. Plus, I was kinda tired of this game and demoralized due to some of the cheap cards we had been dealt throughout the game. I apologize, it was dumb, but I don't think any amount of luck would have helped us.

[Porkens]

I agree that the setup was town-heavy. I guess if the vig hadn't been such a stud there would have been more town bodies... But even still, I was expecting at least one more scum PR.

Seraphim's post reminds me; what did Archon 'outright lie' about?

[Seraphim]

Porkens did own as vig. I will admit that.

BTW, the reason I didn't respond to you saying that you targeted me last night...how do you respond to that?

"Hey, I tried to kill you last night..."

">_> Okay..."

[Trumpet of Doom]

So just so I know, who suggested me dead N1?

[Seraphim]

That would be me. I was like, "Oh crap, ToD is intelligent, KILL HIM!"

My general plan for N1 kills barring obvpower roles is to kill smart people.

[PhilyEc]

Setup for the game was awesome KoC, Porkens, gotta hand it to you, your spider-pig senses won the game for sure. I hope my quick lynch helped your aiming of Seraphim in some way even if it only helped point him out for further studying~

ThAdmiral, apologies for dragging you under the spotlight.

[ThAdmiral]

Setup for the game was awesome KoC, Porkens, gotta hand it to you, your spider-pig senses won the game for sure. I hope my quick lynch helped your aiming of Seraphim in some way even if it only helped point him out for further studying~

ThAdmiral, apologies for dragging you under the spotlight.

No need to apologise. There was a good chance I could have helped the scum win with my role anyway, so you were right to put me in the spotlight.

[Juls]

So what was the whole deal with the modkill btw? Was it a lie or did KoC overreact?

[Ztife]

That would be me. I was like, "Oh crap, ToD is intelligent, KILL HIM!"

My general plan for N1 kills barring obvpower roles is to kill smart people.

You? You suggested killing Juls and Porkens RB, which I admit on the hindsight now that we know what the roles are would be extremely gamebreaking. I was the one who suggested Trumpet kill. It was really lucky that porkens got simpor N1.

And besides, bus for town credit? I was in a better position than you, busing don't do much for you since you were already so scummy, and besides, I don't see how you can be demoralised when the discussion was town was so weak and there wasn't even much going on.

Granted, if we manage a lynch of a townie tonight, Ad could have switched to simpor and win us the game. It was just as close as that. The only person with any real threat is porkens with the gun, and even then his reasonings skills in this game are weak at best.

There's just too little going on for town to make a good case against any of us.

We could have just went for sordos or RBT for lurking. Well, I guess there's no point pursueing the matter, but if your sick and tired of an inactive game with "unfair" factors going on much as we cannot help it, just replace the game out instead of spoiling it for others. We couldn't even agree on our night actions together, and your day posts are just randoom and scummy. It felt like playing with someone who posts for the sake of posting and can't even coordinate anything with my partner.

[Knight of Cydonia]

The modkill was, I think, slight communication problem. I was drunk, didn't have the rolelist to hand, and assumed Archon was scum. When he asked "can I tell people about this" I assumed he meant "can I tell scumbuddies about this?". In fairness, though, it did slightly break the game by him revealing that, and the town didn't really lose out a huge about because of it.

[Juls]

I don't think it broke the game. We knew by the following night (at least I did) that there was likely a scum roleblocker because they blocked Porkens. It did, however, put us in a worse off position by losing a townie to modkill and that would have been unfortunate late in the game. I personally don't think he should have been modkilled but maybe warned and the post snipped.

[Atticus.Finch]

First of all, in games I've seen, faking a PR isn't against the rules. Usually the Mod doesn't yell at you and stuff. It's no different than fake claiming.

I was honest when I said I was trying to get reactions and stuff and come Day 2, I planned on saying more than 4 word sentences. But since the mod called me out for it, I think I drastically improved my playing. I was right about Ztife, and Sepharim was quite scummy in my eyes too, so I still think we would've won had you not LYNCHED ME. So I went away and then I come back and IT'S NIGHT!

I was lynched randomly, and QUICKLY. So unfair! I never even got a chance to defend myself. It was a really stupid move on the town's part..

BTW, I was confused and thought I was a Vanilla town, not a PGO/Survivor, but that explains my initial reckless reaction-seeking behavior in Day 1.

I was really disappointed I didn't get to do more, but whatever. I lost. Boo.

[ThAdmiral]

I was really disappointed I didn't get to do more, but whatever. I lost. Boo.

Well I did ride your corpse to victory so you sort of won...

[Simpor]

What the heck... well well nice played town!

[MeMe]

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