The Werewolves of Millers Hollow (Game Over)
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Shadow Knight Goon
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OMG- Stop with the quote pyramids. There aren't *that* many convos going on right now.ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Battle Mage Jester
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can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
No. I mean, I want to use my vote wisely. There's a difference.Battle Mage wrote:
You dont have to take my word for it. You could, like, read the first page of any Kingmaker/Consulmaker/Presidentmaker (a personal favourite) game.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Well, I've never played a game with this mechanic, so I'll take your word for it. Personally, I prefer to keep my vote on me for as long as possible, since I'd rather like to use it well. Of course, you could all make it easy and vote me for mayor. :pBattle Mage wrote:
This is a respectable stance, but not very realistic. You are unlikely to get that kind of assurity on day 1. Our best bet is to pick someone today, and make sure they are held accountable as much as possible. Odds on, unless we get consequtive scum lynches, the Mayor will probably change on a daily basis. Such is the way with Kingmaker style games.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:unvote, Vote to Lynch: Xtoxm
I do not like that kind of play one bit.
I'm not shifting my mayor vote off myself unless I'm absolutely sure the person I'd be giving it to is Pro-Town.
BM
What you mean to say is, you want to keep your vote inactive, until you can gain brownie points by making a casting vote. Afraid to commit yourself?
BM
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Xtoxm EBWOXM
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Vote Xtoxm for mayor
When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst-
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DizzyIzzyB13 Mafia Scum
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In my experience, there's never a bad time to lynch Xtoxm.ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Jahudo Mafia Scum
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Shadow Knight Goon
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I'd say that xtoxm's claim at least gives us something to discuss, but if he's telling the truth, it just boils down to a discussion about whether a no lynch is good day one.ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Gorrad Mafia Scum
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Battle Mage Jester
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sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.Xtoxm wrote:Vote Xtoxm for mayor
When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.
I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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dingoatemybaby Goon
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DizzyIzzyB13 Mafia Scum
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No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.Battle Mage wrote:can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.
BMShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Battle Mage Jester
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Quoted for Absolute Truth.Jahudo wrote:I don't buy X's claim. I've heard of Unlynchable as both a town and scum role anyway.
WHY??Jahudo wrote: I bet he's actually a UNK SK. This is the perfect fake claim for that.
unvote;
Vote: Xtoxm for Mayor
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Shadow Knight Goon
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@Jahudo- he could be any number of things. He could be a Jester (although I pray the mod would let us know if we had to be on the lookout for that). He could just have an alternate win condition of getting lynched day one. He could be Judas or Vampire, or something similar (don't really recall how those roles work to be honest).ShowHouse of Mirrors- Dead
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Battle Mage Jester
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Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.Battle Mage wrote:can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.
BM
If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Battle Mage Jester
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exactly. He's not town.dingoatemybaby wrote:
Can you explain if and how revealing this now is helpful to the town?Xtoxm wrote:I'm unlynchable.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Xtoxm EBWOXM
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BM is Gorrad's scumbuddy...He wants to No Lynch twice.Battle Mage wrote:
sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.Xtoxm wrote:Vote Xtoxm for mayor
When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.
I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?
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DizzyIzzyB13 Mafia Scum
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I'm not dead in any of them. And as far I can tell, the only game I can find that I actually started, I was a Mafia RB, so... problem. I'll keep looking.Battle Mage wrote:
Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.Battle Mage wrote:can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.
BM
If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.
BMShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Battle Mage Jester
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Have you got any better ideas? You're the buffoon who put us into this situation. I hope for your sake you aren't town....Xtoxm wrote:
BM is Gorrad's scumbuddy...He wants to No Lynch twice.Battle Mage wrote:
sadly, you wont. Its not completely unheard of for scum to have 1 shot unlynchability. In fact, i've used it as a role in a game i've modded, as it can give the scum a strong edge.Xtoxm wrote:Vote Xtoxm for mayor
When you fail at lynching me i'll be confirmed town, so i'm the best choice.
I'll only be content of your towniness, after 2 successful lynch survivals, at which point i can probably conclude that it isnt mod bastardery. But ofc, you dont have a problem with that, do you?
BM
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Jahudo Mafia Scum
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Battle Mage Jester
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ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
I'm not dead in any of them. And as far I can tell, the only game I can find that I actually started, I was a Mafia RB, so... problem. I'll keep looking.Battle Mage wrote:
Lol, i dont mind if they are ongoing, as long as the mod doesnt have a problem. Most find it acceptable, as long as you are dead in that game.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
No. All my recent games are either ongoing or were marathon games which wouldn't provide useful data due to the nature of the set-ups.Battle Mage wrote:can you please link me to a recent game of yours, where you were town please? Preferably one where you were one of the starting players.
BM
If not, a sample of older games will have to suffice.
BM
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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DizzyIzzyB13 Mafia Scum
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Hmm, I found another, but I was Mafia in that one, too. That appears to be it. =/ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Battle Mage Jester
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No, why did you vote him for Mayor? 0.o'Jahudo wrote:@BM: A feeling I get from my X as SK meta.
@Shadow: I certainly hope there aren't jesters but now that you mention it I bet there is a Vampire in this game. It fits the theme perfectly. I'm not familiar with the strategy so I don't know if they'd make themselves a target for a lynch or NK so early.
Ugh, im such a dumbass. Whats a vampire?
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Percy Rainbow Robot Cthulhu
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@Xtomx: I think claiming 'unlynchable' makes you the perfect scum target. If you're pro-town and also the mayor, what makes you think you'll survive tonight?
My vote stays.
And anyways, I agree with the general principal of voting for a player who smells kinda town for mayor, and keeping a very close eye on them for the rest of the game.
I know mayorsoundsawesome ("Shit yeah, I'm the goddamned MAYOR!"), but those 'running' for mayor obviously have a rather high opinion of their scumhunting skills, or are scum. I willUnvote for Mayoruntil a candidate addresses the (actually serious) question: What would make you a good mayor?
@BM: I don't think a short day iseverin the town's favour. What would make you think otherwise?-
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DizzyIzzyB13 Mafia Scum
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Best I can do with games I've started:Battle Mage wrote: ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.
BM
Newbie 586 in which Izzy plays the part of Mafia RB
Open 72 in which Izzy plays the part of a Mafia goon.ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Battle Mage Jester
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A short day is in the town's favour, if a longer day will produce little further scumhunting (due to the lynch already being decided, and further suspicions being subject to that result) and revealing of protown power roles, as often happens in early games. Its also in the towns favour if the scum havent had time to settle into the game yet. Hopefully they might feel a little lost, although this is more of a long shot.Percy wrote:@Xtomx: I think claiming 'unlynchable' makes you the perfect scum target. If you're pro-town and also the mayor, what makes you think you'll survive tonight?
My vote stays.
And anyways, I agree with the general principal of voting for a player who smells kinda town for mayor, and keeping a very close eye on them for the rest of the game.
I know mayorsoundsawesome ("Shit yeah, I'm the goddamned MAYOR!"), but those 'running' for mayor obviously have a rather high opinion of their scumhunting skills, or are scum. I willUnvote for Mayoruntil a candidate addresses the (actually serious) question: What would make you a good mayor?
@BM: I don't think a short day iseverin the town's favour. What would make you think otherwise?
As far as a campaign goes, i think Shadow Knight summed it up pretty well. I'm probably the most active person here, so i wont lurk or anything, and you'll have plenty of time to judge me. I'm blatantly protown as anyone can see, and i'm pretty experienced. Also, im really easy to read, so putting me in the limelight should reap pretty rapid rewards as far as analysing me goes.
As far as i see it, those who want to be mayor arent necessarily arrogant or scum. They are just being selfish, and finding the simplest route to fulfill their win condition. If we all vote for ourselves, nobody will get anywhere.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Battle Mage Jester
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you didnt seem to have a problem random voting in either of those games. Is this a change of policy, or do you think random voting is a scumtell for you?DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:
Best I can do with games I've started:Battle Mage wrote: ok a link to that will be a start, thanks. There is a reason im asking this-not just sending you on a wild goose chase.
BM
Newbie 586 in which Izzy plays the part of Mafia RB
Open 72 in which Izzy plays the part of a Mafia goon.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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