War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)


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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:42 pm

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Guys, btw. We need to keep rofl and nuwen around for now as hedges against each other.
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:03 am

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The Fonz wrote:Guys, stop and take a step back.

Considering everyone bashed Rofl repeatedly for his 'singlehandedly' taking Kinetic down to rage range, how do you feel about q21 actually singlehandedly taking Zwet into rage range?

I re-read myself, and realised i once had q21 as scum, and can't remember why i dropped it. Zwet flipping town reflects a lot on him, and no-one commenting on it makes me more suspicious.
Why you had me as scum and why you dropped it I can't answer.

I wasn't the only one to damage zwet, Seraphim did too, but thanks for that misrep. I made my points against zwet and had backing to hurt him. Worlds different from most of what rofl has done.
"I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.

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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:22 am

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Hurt Xyl


As promised.
"I can't not give mad props to the murderbot 9000 that was q21." - Spyrex, after Scummies Invitational 2010.

You know those times when you wish you could think of something really funny or interesting to say, but just can't?... Yep, this is one of those times.
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:35 am

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The Fonz wrote:I re-read myself, and realised i once had q21 as scum, and can't remember why i dropped it. Zwet flipping town reflects a lot on him, and no-one commenting on it makes me more suspicious.
I may have a surprise for you regarding this.
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:03 am

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Firestarter wrote:
HURT: Xylthixlm
bah bah sheep
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:03 am

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q21 wrote:
Hurt Xyl


As promised.
bah bah bah bah more sheep
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:04 am

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I see you still have nothing original to contribute to the game.
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:08 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I see you still have nothing original to contribute to the game.
Like you do?

Oh, yes, actually, pushing townie lynch after townie lynch. Xyl is not guilty of using rage points, and plenty of rage points were unleashed under my watch. None were attributable to him.

Is it a coincidence that after your day 1 bus, we're burnt through 10 townies in row? You ran out of town cred long ago.
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:13 am

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Xylthixlm shook his head as the inevitable became clear. A slow bleed-out left him with one fist pressed to the ground and another to his forehead, before his corpse sank and melded with the floor in a dissipating burst, like a visual sigh.

God wrote:XYLTHIXLM... MY BEST AND BRIGHTEST FALL LIKE NINE-PINS, AND NONE CAN STAUNCH THE FLOW. WHAT HAS BECOME OF YOUR RANKS, MY ANGELS? WHAT HAS BECOME OF HEAVEN?
Xylthixlm, Loyal Cherub, has been cast out of Heaven.


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FIRST DAMAGE TALLY OF THE TWENTY-THIRD ÆON
DrippingGoofball and q21 are both at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

Giuseppe
Yosarian2, Nuwen, roflcopter, and The Fonz are all at normal HP.
Albert B. Rampage and populartajo have 1 damage each.
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:35 am

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Its oficial i suck at this game. Can we still win this? Fron ny cell
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:51 am

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populartajo wrote:Its oficial i suck at this game. Can we still win this? Fron ny cell
No, we lost.
Xyl wrote:If we kill once a day, we get around 8 mislynches.
If we kill once every 2 days, we get around 7 mislynches.
If we kill once every 4 days, we get around 6 mislynches.
If we kill once every 7 days, we get around 5 mislynches.
If we kill once every 10 days, we get get around 4 mislynches.
If we kill once every 14 days, we get get around 3 mislynches.

We start with ~8 mislynches.
Lynch a townie: -1 mislynch.
Lynch a scum: +1 mislynch.
Scum get a kill: -1 mislynch.
When the number of mislynches remaining goes to 0, town loses.

Obviously, we want to lynch correctly, so our mislynch buffer goes up. But it's important to know how many mislynches are left because it tells us how badly we could possibly do at scumhunting and still not lose. In this case, the slower we go, the more kills scum get, the less buffer have, and the better we will need to be at scumhunting to compensate.
We've exceeded the number of mislynches we can get away with.

I suggest you get your act together, poptartajo, and stop listening to the people that have led us to 10 mislynches in a row. Get a clue. The people you think are town, are scum. They're playing you like a violin.

At this point, we're only continuing to play to save our honor, and by this, I mean not look like retarded pushovers when the scum wins on the power of a day 1 bus. We're really idiots for falling for that one.
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:55 am

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Dgb you are the only person i trust right now. Im going to surgery in a dew hours. HopefullyFron ny cell i can male it in the night. Rolf has to die. Giusep too
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:09 am

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10 townies in a row?

Unfuckinbelievable....

Fresh impetus please... DGB, I believe you have such a post being readied..

With great haste I urge it to appear here..
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:17 am

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Firestarter wrote:10 townies in a row?

Unfuckinbelievable....

Fresh impetus please... DGB, I believe you have such a post being readied..

With great haste I urge it to appear here..
Likewise, the only players I trust are potajo, and Firestarter. I'm leery of q21, not on account of his posts, but rather how he hasn't been hit by rage points, despite being high up on the HP ladder. I'm on page 25 of my re-read, I have to clean out the outdoors for the spring, and tonight I have a metalwork class. I'll try to plug in more hours this afternoon. I won't re-read so carefully past page 100 or so, because that's still all fresh in our minds.

Why don't you two take a really close, methodical look at ABR, copter, q21 and Fonz? We're so totally bamboozled, we have to flip all assumptions upside down.
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:43 am

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Albert and fonz feel town to me. Rolf has survived enough. Intent to hurt : rolf.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:07 am

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populartajo wrote:Albert and fonz feel town to me. Rolf has survived enough. Intent to hurt : rolf.
Feelings haven't been panning out in this game. We need cold, hard facts. If you haven't learnt a lesson about following your feelings, read their posts in isolation.
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:16 am

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Alright, conclusions:

Xyl's wagon was a steaming pile of shit. Not only did DGB's results confirm him (if both were town), but his wagon has been long propelled by players everyone has mused are "too obvious to be scum." I'm looking at you, Tajo and Rofl - both of you have been strong proponents of almost every mislynch we've had this game. The number of 'mistakes' has gone well past the amount allowed in a deductive information quest. Running a test lynch on Xyl probably put us in LYLO. GG.

We know now there are four or less scum alive in this game, or Xyl's death would have been an autowin.

Everyone's awesome 'gut' has led to townie mislynch after townie mislynch. Either you bring something tangible to the thread, or your action doesn't happen.

Support intent to hurt Rofl
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:56 am

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did nobody
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what xyl actually said about my interactions with shinnen before he died?

tajo and nuwen are scum. i'm trying to figure out who their partners are.

hurt: tajo
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:00 am

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roflcopter wrote: tajo scum.
Have you lost your headcheese?

... And more unbacked hurting?

Can we just kill him already? Rofl has been allowed free reign in this game for too long, and it probably cost us the win. Next game, I'm not allowing loose canon players to hop around and muck up the game with their idiocy.
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:08 am

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Nuwen wrote: Can we just kill him already? Rofl has been allowed free reign in this game for too long, and it probably cost us the win. Next game, I'm not allowing loose canon players to hop around and muck up the game with their idiocy.
Im in complete agreement with this.

How on earth has rofl been allowed to do this time and time again, throughout the death of every townie???
Not only that, but this game is almost over, and he has shown NO remorse for his hurting ways whatsoever.

Im supporting a hit on rofl...
And if he does come up town, which lets face it, his play suggests anything but, then at least we do not have a loose cannon at Lylo, if thats were we are at that stage of the game. This is purely alternatate speculation, Rofl is more scum than ever with this latest crazy hurt.

However...
Im in the middle of creating a Hurt/Heal list.
Ill come back shortly with analysis of this.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:09 am

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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:20 am

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Neat. More unsupported hurting on a player
that's practically confirmed after Xyl's flip
. Are you assuming that a scum Ophan sought to confirm a town player?

I support hurts on ABR & Rofl, heals on DGB. She's the only shot we have at catching scum in a rage dump - DGB, could you continue watching players in a cycle for the rest of this game? Make it dangerous to use rage. As more players drop off, the probability of hitting scum during an action increases.

I don't support hurts on Tajo right now, but don't want heals tossed in his direction until I can properly figure out what he's been doing all game.

No idea what to think about Fonz either. He's been a heavy supporter of Rofl's gung-ho failure, but hasn't committed actions himself that I find damning. Any material against him is forged from links with other people, which I'm not comfortable lynching on without a parallel independent case.

Continuing to speedlynch is going to hurt the town very badly. Everyone needs to be doing heavy rereads, even if it's not your usual style. Do this fast, but not sloppily. This game is screwy. Deadline tentatively set for Saturday night, before scum presumably acquire more rage points? We need to hit scum before then. I think another round of rage will be the fuck that broke the camel's back.
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:22 am

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Hurt: Rofl
, by the way.
Blahblahblah blade
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I'm assuming Firestarter's support is enough now that we're down to 9 players.
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:26 am

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Hi, everyone, replacing in.

I'll try to get caught up as quickly as possible. Until then, anything urgent I need to know or need to do?
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:31 am

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Shit shit shit. Why did I realise that Xyl's alignment depended entirely on DGB's, and that killing him whilst she lived was monumentally ridiculous, AFTER i left the house this morning?

DGB, what's your surprise re: q21?

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