War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[Xylthixlm]

Alive

# Albert B. Rampage - Hurt by: WeyounsLastClone, q21 (2) Healed by: Nuwen,

Kinetic

(1)

# DrippingGoofball - Hurt by: Hoopla,

????? x1

,

????? x1

(3) Healed by: WeyounsLastClone/Cybelle, Seraphim, Xylthixlm (3)

# Giuseppe - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)

# Firestarter/Drench (-1 HP) - Hurt by: Xylthixlm, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, The Fonz (4) Healed by: populartajo (1)

# Nuwen - Hurt by:

????? x1

(1) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)

# populartajo - Hurt by:

????? x2

(2) Healed by: Tenchi (1)

# q21 - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: populartajo (1)

# roflcopter - Hurt by: Shinnen_no_Me

x2

, Hoopla (3) Healed by: DrippingGoofball, populartajo, Hoopla,

WaltWishbone

(3)

# The Fonz - Hurt by:

????? x1

(1) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)

# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: Juls, zwetschenwasser, WaltWishbone

x2

, roflcopter

x2

, roflcopter

x2

, Tenchi (9) Healed by: Juls,

Drench

, WeyounsLastClone, Giuseppe (3)

Dead

# Shinnen_no_Me

- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz,

Kinetic

,

DrippingGoofball

, Albert B. Rampage,

Seraphim

, q21,

Juls

, Xylthixlm, Nuwen

x2

, The Fonz, roflcopter

x2

(13) Healed by:

Seraphim

(1)

# Hoopla

- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, roflcopter

x2

,

WaltWishbone

, Albert B. Rampage,

WeyounsLastClone

,

Juls

,

Seraphim

,

Juls

,

WaltWishbone

(9) Healed by: (0)

# WaltWishbone

- Hurt by: DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, Nuwen, Xylthixlm,

WeyounsLastClone

, Nuwen

x2

,

zwetschenwasser

, q21,

Seraphim

,

vIQleS

, Xylthixlm,

zwetschenwasser

, Nuwen

x2

(14) Healed by:

vIQleS

,

Kinetic

(2)

# Juls

- Hurt by: Xylthixlm,

zwetschenwasser

,

vIQleS

, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe,

Seraphim

, DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm,

zwetschenwasser

, Giuseppe,

Kinetic

(10) Healed by:

zwetschenwasser

(1)

# Kinetic

- Hurt by: roflcopter, roflcopter

x2

,

Juls

, roflcopter

x2

, Albert B. Rampage,

????? x3

(10) Healed by:

Hoopla

,

DrippingGoofball

,

DrippingGoofball

(1)

# WeyounsLastClone/Cybele

(-1 HP) - Hurt by: Xylthixlm,

Seraphim

, Albert B. Rampage, Firestarter, populartajo, Xylthixlm,

Seraphim

, Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz,

Firestarter

(9) Healed by: q21 (1)

# vIQleS

- Hurt by: Kinetic, populartajo,

????? x6

(8) Healed by:

WaltWishbone

(1)

# zwetschenwasser

- Hurt by: q21,

Seraphim

, q21, q21,

????? x3

(7) Healed by: (0)

# Tenchi

- Hurt by: populartajo,

Juls

, Giuseppe,

????? x6

,

????? x3

(12) Healed by: (0)

# Seraphim

- Hurt by: roflcopter,

WeyounsLastClone

, Xylthixlm, Albert B. Rampage, Firestarter, populartajo,

roflcopter x2

, q21, The Fonz, Albert B. Rampage (11) Healed by:

Shinnen_no_Me

, populartajo (2)

Secret damage as of post 3292:
3 points of secret damage were used to kill Kinetic.
6 points of secret damage were used to kill vIQleS.
3 points of secret damage were used to kill zwetschenwasser.
1 point of secret damage was dealt to Nuwen.
2 points of secret damage were dealt to DrippingGoofball.
1 point of secret damage was dealt to The Fonz.
2 points of secret damage were dealt to populartajo.
9 points of secret damage were used to kill Tenchi (first 6, then 3).


Note: Damage counts are based on public information and reasonable assumptions. It's always possible that there are two secret effects cancelling each other out.

[Xylthixlm]

I take responsibilities for this death.
I really dont know what to make of this right now.

Congratulations, you now know how I've been feeling since WaltWishbone and Juls came up town.

[The Fonz]

If a town player dies during the 'day' it's probably game over.

How the bleeping hell were WLC, Tenchi, and Seraphim (ie the keep a low profile, not build cases and hurt town brothers) all town themselves?

[populartajo]

Xyl, DGB should still die.

[q21]

I take responsibilities for this death.
I really dont know what to make of this right now.

You were not alone in trying to kill him. Lots of people, myself included were involved.

[populartajo]

I take responsibilities for this death.
I really dont know what to make of this right now.

You were not alone in trying to kill him. Lots of people, myself included were involved.

I pushed it.

[Firestarter]

Ok, missed the last few posts before I posted...

INTENT TO HURT: DGB or XYL

I dont give a fuck who, one of them NEEDS to flip now.

[The Fonz]

He just hurt so many town players. It didn't seem possible.

[populartajo]

He just hurt so many town players. It didn't seem possible.

I should have trusted my initial read on him and not listen to you and rolf. I dont blame you for this, though.
I say that Xyl and DGB still need to die. Xyl's behavior after Tenchi's death is damning as hell.

[populartajo]

Just for the record. Fonz, rolf and Firestarter, if you are scum you just won this game.

[populartajo]

# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: Juls, zwetschenwasser, WaltWishbone x2, roflcopter x2, roflcopter x2, Tenchi (9) Healed by: Juls, Drench, WeyounsLastClone, Giuseppe (3)

Why did Giusepped helaed Xyl?

[Giuseppe]

I believe that was when Rofl was solo-wagoning him.

[The Fonz]

Just for the record. Fonz, rolf and Firestarter, if you are scum you just won this game.

Well, you can rule that one out, then.

[q21]

Firestarter's play since Tenchi's death has been worrying. He went from hurting Serpahim and arguing against stalling to trying to shut the Seraphim lynch down... ie. stalling.

Possibly bussing his scumbuddy until he realised that the rest of the team had been blown open. Although, that makes one wonder why he would change target to DGB - better bus maybe?

Just thoughts, no concrete reads on him as yet.

Firestarters thoughts on this game were very different before Tenchi's death...

Read my posts again Q.....

You'll find Im not opposed to a Seraphim lynch at all... never in fact.

Never claimed that you had said were opposed to it, rather that you'd tried to stall it after complaining about stalling before Tenchi's death. I agree with you on DGB/Xyl, as you pointed out later in this post, but there was no reason to stop hurting Seraphim.

[The Fonz]

DGB first. I'm starting to get waking nightmares of a DGB-ABR distance fest.

[q21]

EBWOP

Firestarter's play since Tenchi's death has been worrying. He went from hurting Serpahim and arguing against stalling to trying to shut the Seraphim lynch down... ie. stalling.

Possibly bussing his scumbuddy until he realised that the rest of the team had been blown open. Although, that makes one wonder why he would change target to DGB - better bus maybe?

Just thoughts, no concrete reads on him as yet.

Firestarters thoughts on this game were very different before Tenchi's death...

Read my posts again Q.....

You'll find Im not opposed to a Seraphim lynch at all... never in fact.

Never claimed that you had said were opposed to it, rather that you'd tried to stall it after complaining about stalling before Tenchi's death. I agree with you on DGB/Xyl, as you pointed out later in this post, but there was no reason to stop hurting Seraphim.

[populartajo]

Quick read on Giuseppe.

Alright Xyl, I don't believe Rofl should be able to be acting as unilaterally as he is. I've been saying all game I don't believe in unilateral action, and I'll stand to it.

Here's your

sign

heal.

Heal: Xylthixlm

I also support the ABR lynch. I think it's time he kicked the bucket, as he hasn't put forth anything compelling lately. I can't hurt for another 24 hours, but count me in on that.

This feels bad, considering what my opinions are of the players involved.

Well, I do confess my activity is a bit under the level I would normally like it to be, but I see my job in this game as something a bit different than in a normal, smaller game. Not everyone can be a leader, not in a game this large. Right now, I'm thinking a lot more than I'm posting, so that my actions, although few, will allow the more active members to gain the benefit of my opinion which is unmarred by feelings gained in the game in the heat of the moment, and my reading of the game is done in a perspective of the past, so that I can detach myself from the game, and look at the facts objectively.

Most Town

Tajo
Fons
Firestarter

Neutral

Xylthixlm
DrippingGoofball
Tenchi
q21
vIQleS
Nuwen
zwetschenwasser

Most Scum

ABR
Roflcoptor
Seraphim

Yes, I believe that's everyone. I tend to believe that those most adamantly for the latest system are those who are most pro-town, and that those who are raging against it are scummier. The exception is Seraphim, whose consistent hurting of Townies is too scummy to ignore. I think I'll be adopting him as my third vote for mass hurting.

Vote: Seraphim

Does that help, Tajo?

Yeah, again this feels bad, considering what my opinions are of the players involved.

[Firestarter]

Never claimed that you had said were opposed to it, rather that you'd tried to stall it after complaining about stalling before Tenchi's death. I agree with you on DGB/Xyl, as you pointed out later in this post, but there was no reason to stop hurting Seraphim.

How could I stall it? I merely asked everyone to think about their next move, while also giving my thoughts on the DGB Ophan Claim/Xyl being cleared by it.

It was out of my hands... I am currently in recharge state, and if I had got Hurt to use, it would have went the way of Seraphim

after

discussing that I wanted DGB or Xyl first. I made no secret of this.

But I cannot get the DGB/Xyl claim out of my head.

The Metatron being introduced makes me feel really certain that at least 1 Ophan, is fallen.

[populartajo]

DGB first. I'm starting to get waking nightmares of a DGB-ABR distance fest.

This is a weak reason. I already have assumed that ABR cant be scum. We need to finish the one with the lowest HP.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Seraphim might have 12hp, finish him off please. If he's already dead you will not waste your action.

[populartajo]

Seraphim might have 12hp, finish him off please. If he's already dead you will not waste your action.

WTF?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Um. I missed a few pages.

[Albert B. Rampage]

# In Servorum (10):Albert B. Rampage
# Drench Firestarter
# DrippingGoofball
# Giuseppe
# Nuwen
# populartajo
# q21
# roflcopter
# The Fonz
# Xylthixlm

There's like 4 or 5 scum in this list, how fucked up is that?

[q21]

Never claimed that you had said were opposed to it, rather that you'd tried to stall it after complaining about stalling before Tenchi's death. I agree with you on DGB/Xyl, as you pointed out later in this post, but there was no reason to stop hurting Seraphim.

How could I stall it? I merely asked everyone to think about their next move, while also giving my thoughts on the DGB Ophan Claim/Xyl being cleared by it.

It was out of my hands... I am currently in recharge state, and if I had got Hurt to use, it would have went the way of Seraphim

after

discussing that I wanted DGB or Xyl first. I made no secret of this.

But I cannot get the DGB/Xyl claim out of my head.

The Metatron being introduced makes me feel really certain that at least 1 Ophan, is fallen.

You explicitly asked people to stop killing Seraphim.

Here

Im ordering everyone off the Seraphim lynch now!!

Time to think now....

Earlier, and from the previous game, there was no need for scum to have an Ophan in their ranks.

But now that we have a Metatron, that seemingly protects players from hurt, its very very likely that scum have an ophan with them.

We have DGB, who cleared Xyl, and I took it for what it was then.
But not now, with the knowledge from Tenchi's death.

Seraphim has acted scummy, as has most of the dead townies, but they've been townies nonetheless....

I think we need to remove DGB, and if my theory is correct.. Xyl follows.

Guys, think long and hard about our next move here, it's likely our last if we get it wrong.

INTENT TO HURT & VOTE: DGB

[populartajo]

q21 and Fire, you both are town, please avoid this fight and concentrate in Xyl and DGB please.