Open 131 - Nightless Vanilla (Over) before 767

[White Castle]

No, I didn't know what I was signing up for. I went to the queue and wrote "/in" like most people do.

This is a marginal, and wrong, tell. Try harder.

You aren't giving us much to work with here while you're at L-3. A good, pro-town townie would be scumhunting, not telling the other townies to "try harder".

[Lowell]

A good town doesn't put me at L-3 on page 2.

I'm not saying you can't vote for me, I'm saying "try harder." As in, find someone else to talk about. I'll scumhunt when I see something.

[White Castle]

The two who haven't checked in since the game started:

Wall-E - posted five times yesterday, 3/30, in other threads. Does anyone have meta on him? Does he lurk?

skitzer - hasn't posted 3/28, before the game started.

[Empking]

I dislike the speed of that. I'm going to be paying attention to the last three plsayers this game.

[White Castle]

I went back and checked how you signed up. You signed up as you said.

/in for anything

No, I didn't know what I was signing up for. I went to the queue and wrote "/in" like most people do.

This is a marginal, and wrong, tell. Try harder.

However, you have presented no evidence to support your claim that “most people just write /in” I am not willing to take anyone's supposition as fact.

I disagree that this tell is “marginal and wrong.” In the context of what you wrote, marginal means “barely within a lower standard or limit of quality”. This tell works some of the time, so I agree that it is marginal. However, to make a blanket statement that this tell is wrong strikes me as scummy. The only way your statement makes sense is if you applied it to your specific situation, but the context indicates you are attacking the tell itself and not applying it to your situation.

[Wall-E]

Post 44 is a great post.

I'll vote Lowell when we're ready to end the day.

[farside22]

Post 44 is a great post.

I'll vote Lowell when we're ready to end the day.

Why?

Grrr

@WC: I notice skitzer gets flaky sometimes. He disappears and reappears it a null tell.

Lowell you were in the last nightless game with me surely you have more to offer then nothing?

Reference for those of the last nightless vanilla game:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8602

[Netlava]

Not liking Lowell's "try harder."

Bit surprised how fast jazzmyn and wall-e arrived at their conclusions too.

[hewitt]

Hm the speed of the bandwagon was pretty quick, I'm not convinced Adam Smith or Jazzmyn really paid attention to what they were doing. Seems more to me like they were just like oh cool a bandwagon let's jump on!

[millar13]

Vote: Lowell

[hewitt]

Eh, I guess I should add millar to that list as well with Adam Smith and jazzmyn.

[skitzer]

farside in Post 24: Sadly, that almost sounds like a good idea.

Empking in Post 29: But...farside hasn't lied yet, as far as I know.

Netlava in Post 39: Be fun and random vote. You aren't giving us anywhere to start on you! How do we know the sharpness of the dart if we don't feel it? (crazy metaphor FTW)

Ugh, White Castle, your constant linkage to the Wiki makes me feel weird about you.

and...White Castle in Post 44: Your vote is OMGUS.

As of Post 47: I'm not sure the bandwagon on Lowell, if real, is supported. It is based on a Wiki tell. NO tell is 100% sure.

White Castle in Post 51: Can you tell me what information Lowell could give to possibly defend himself on Page 3?

Empking in Post 53: I agree with you! You are on my "Townie" list...for now. Knowing you, that could be a very short "now".

farside in Post 56: Well hopefully that should end...except... (see end of post)

millar in Post 59: Vote with no reasoning is not good in my book. Sure, the reason can be assumed, but you could be on some totally different idea that we don't see.

Opinions: Not approving the Lowell wagon.

A question for White Castle: You started the bandwagon on Lowell. Can you provide any more to your case other than the tell you found on the Wiki?

Also, to the moderator,

I will be V/LA from April 1st-6th

[Lowell]

Hm the speed of the bandwagon was pretty quick, I'm not convinced Adam Smith or Jazzmyn really paid attention to what they were doing. Seems more to me like they were just like oh cool a bandwagon let's jump on!

I agree with this. Normally I'm not opposed to D1 quick wagons, but the problem with nightless is that the first lynch is ESSENTIAL. If you get scum on D1 winning is easy. If you lynch town winning becomes nearly impossible.

[Jazzmyn]

No, I didn't know what I was signing up for.

Well, there goes that theory, then. I sign up for specific games and always check out the flavour/blurb/setup/whichever before I join, so my bad for assuming that others do the same.

Unvote: Lowell

Regards,
Jazz

[farside22]

Well I really didn't see what the big deal was on Lowell.
I really dont like millar's vote with not reason.

Fos: millar

Actaully millar looks like a blantant hop on a bw without reason.

unvote:
vote: millar

[Jazzmyn]

Well I really didn't see what the big deal was on Lowell.

Pretty simple really: signing up for an open setup game that is nightless and has 4 scum and then posting in his first post, "Great a nightless with a billion scum..."

Looked pretty suspicious to me until he said that he didn't know what he'd signed up for, and it appears that he really didn't. I, for one, always know what I'm signing up for so it hadn't occurred to me that anyone else wouldn't but it appears that he signed up for 'whatever' and therefore may not have known.

Regards,
Jazz

[Wall-E]

Unvote: Vote Lowell

yay

[hewitt]

Yeah I really don't check out what game I'm going into before signing up either. So why did you hop on the bandwagon Wall-E?

[Netlava]

Unvote

As much as I like bandwagons, I think reasons are still needed.

[Wall-E]

I've... I've already said why.

Is anyone in this town paying attention at all?

[millar13]

clearly townies aren't allowed to jump on the wagon yet, but there was reason as from what I had read Lowell was most scummy looking.

[Lowell]

I actually just don't like nightless, that's all it means. I think too much of the important action happens right at the top (D1) rather than as the game develops.

Despite his blatant hopping, I don't actually think Wall-E is scum. I think millar is a good wagon, though. I have him in another game and it's like two completely different people (yeah, that was a double-simultaneous-meta, for those keeping score).

fos millar

also,

fos farside

. Just an idea.

[Empking]

Unvote: Vote Lowell

yay

Can you give a reason with your vote?

[farside22]

Lowell you were in the last nightless game with me surely you have more to offer then nothing?

Reference for those of the last nightless vanilla game:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8602

[Lowell]

Yeah I didn't like that one either.

It's page 3, I'm not certain what you want from me...