War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

Seraphim · Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:51 am

Tajo posted in caps and now we need to kill you.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:52 am

populartajo wrote:ROLF, DONT HURT SERAPHIM TONIGHT. HURT NUWEN. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU IS SCUM.
DO THIS ONLY AND ONLY IF YOU ARE TOWN.

Not a good idea!

When the time comes for us to kill one or the other, the town should decide which one goes first. Nuwen has already absorbed some scum rage points, so she's already weaker than copter. And copter is scummier than Nuwen. In any event, both should start with about the same number of HPs. We decide which to kill first. If that player is scum, then we SPARE (new word for you tajo!) the other. If that player is town, then we dump hurt on the other player.

Not that copter takes any advice... But tajo, don't give him worse advice than what he comes up with himself.

Nuwen · Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:52 am

I was being snarky, sorry.

Anyway, I do agree with the lynch split between me and Rofl, provided you lot promise kill him with fire after I flip. I'd rather flip him first, since that situation has a higher chance of hitting scum and leaving one town Seraph alive. I've been saying that he has to be scum since Walt's lynch, barring a 3:1 setup.

Tenchi · Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:52 am

Can I at least defend myself? Can somebody present a case?

populartajo · Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:54 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
populartajo wrote:ROLF, DONT HURT SERAPHIM TONIGHT. HURT NUWEN. WE HAVE TO KNOW WHO OF YOU IS SCUM.
DO THIS ONLY AND ONLY IF YOU ARE TOWN.
Not a good idea!

When the time comes for us to kill one or the other, the town should decide which one goes first. Nuwen has already absorbed some scum rage points, so she's already weaker than copter. And copter is scummier than Nuwen. In any event, both should start with about the same number of HPs. We decide which to kill first. If that player is scum, then we SPARE (new word for you tajo!) the other. If that player is town, then we dump hurt on the other player.

Not that copter takes any advice... But tajo, don't give him worse advice than what he comes up with himself.

I DONT CARE WHO DIES FIRST. I WANT ANY OF THEM DEAD.

Tenchi · Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:54 am

Seraphim wrote:Tajo posted in caps and now we need to kill you.

Unless you are scum on my wagon. <3

Present a case please. And please do not say "timing" or all that crap.

Seraphim · Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:54 am

I think there have been cases throughout the game.

Tenchi · Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:56 am

Seraphim wrote:I think there have been cases throughout the game.

And I have appropriately defended myself. My absence, my "timing" and the people I suspected and cleared.

If there is anything I missed, kindly restate them.

Seraphim · Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:57 am

Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?

Nuwen · Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:57 am

Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Tajo posted in caps and now we need to kill you.
Unless you are scum on my wagon. <3

Yeah. OMGUS isn't going to fly.

(working on Seraphim's pbpa. You guys are slaying me timewise; I have twin papers and a writing workshop conference tomorrow.)

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am

populartajo wrote:I DONT CARE WHO DIES FIRST. I WANT ANY OF THEM DEAD.

It's important, we have to try to kill the scummiest one first. At random, it's probably 50%, according to your theory (and Nuwen seems to agree with this). Maybe if we make an effort to kill the worst one first, odds will be 60% in our favor. Mafia is a game of millimeters. Every little bit counts.

populartajo · Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am

Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:I think there have been cases throughout the game.

And I have appropriately defended myself. My absence, my "timing" and the people I suspected and cleared.

If there is anything I missed, kindly restate them.

You supported my voting strategy but then you hurt Xyl with no reason at all.
That is your case.
You need to die.

Seraphim · Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:58 am

Nuwen wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Tajo posted in caps and now we need to kill you.
Unless you are scum on my wagon. <3
Yeah. OMGUS isn't going to fly.

(working on Seraphim's pbpa. You guys are slaying me timewise; I have twin papers and a writing workshop conference tomorrow.)

This game is insane on the brain when it rains.

Tenchi · Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:59 am

Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?

I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)

Giuseppe · Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:59 am

Hm, well, judging by my presence on Tajo's big, all-caps list of Non-Town players, I suppose at the very least I should follow his instructions, that I might work towards validating myself in his eyes.

Intent to Heal DGB

DGB is an Ophan, and as such, much, much weaker than any of the other damaged players. I think Tajo should get a couple of heals too, as he's one of the most pro-town players, in my opinion, but right now, DGB needs them more desperately. I'll be healing DGB, if no one objects, as soon as my timer is up, which is tomorrow afternoon, I believe.

populartajo · Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:00 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:
populartajo wrote:I DONT CARE WHO DIES FIRST. I WANT ANY OF THEM DEAD.
It's important, we have to try to kill the scummiest one first. At random, it's probably 50%, according to your theory (and Nuwen seems to agree with this). Maybe if we make an effort to kill the worst one first, odds will be 60% in our favor. Mafia is a game of millimeters. Every little bit counts.

Kay, kay, Im relaxing right now.
You prefer Nuwen. Why?

Seraphim · Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)

All players, please. And list reasons. I'm guessing you don't believe that DGB cleared Xyl?

populartajo · Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:00 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)

You still think DGB is scum?
DIE.

Tenchi · Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:02 pm

Seraphim wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)
All players, please. And list reasons. I'm guessing you don't believe that DGB cleared Xyl?

That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:06 pm

Giuseppe wrote:Hm, well, judging by my presence on Tajo's big, all-caps list of Non-Town players, I suppose at the very least I should follow his instructions, that I might work towards validating myself in his eyes.

Haha, my sarcasm detector isn't broken, thanks for testing it!

populartajo · Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:09 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Giuseppe wrote:Hm, well, judging by my presence on Tajo's big, all-caps list of Non-Town players, I suppose at the very least I should follow his instructions, that I might work towards validating myself in his eyes.
Haha, my sarcasm detector isn't broken, thanks for testing it!

I have one question for you.
Please tell me all your Ophan targets until the last one.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:10 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)
All players, please. And list reasons. I'm guessing you don't believe that DGB cleared Xyl?
That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.

Fail. It's not "between DGB and Xyl", it's "DGB clears Xyl".

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:12 pm

populartajo wrote:Kay, kay, Im relaxing right now.
You prefer Nuwen. Why?

I do think Nuwen should die second, if copter is town. Nuwen has made thoughtful cases, she is willing to die to prove herself, and she suffered scum damage. Copter has been hiding behind his aggressive meta to kill townies without making the effort of trying to convince others of the merit of his cases. He didn't even want to stop double-hurting Xyl! It's as if he's using his power as much as he can, knowing he'll die quickly, but creating as much damage as he can in the meantime. He has suffered no scum damage. He's like a Kamikaze Seraph.

When the time comes, we should make a COLLECTIVE decision, say, with a 24 hour deadline.

populartajo · Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:13 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Seraphim wrote:Maybe people don't think you're defense is suitable?

Or, better yet, who do you think is scum? Or, even better, what do you think of all the players in the game still alive? Who is scum and who is town?
I will repeat it for the umpteenth time:

TOWN: ROLF, TAJO, FONZ
SCUM: XYL, DGB, SERAPHIM

(Things are changing in this list, but I have to recompose myself)
All players, please. And list reasons. I'm guessing you don't believe that DGB cleared Xyl?
That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.
Fail. It's not "between DGB and Xyl", it's "DGB clears Xyl".

Actually if there is one confirmed is DGB, since its the only Ophan left.
You could have used rage in the last set of attacks...
DGB, please tell me you were still watching Xyl.

Tenchi · Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:14 pm

Xylthixlm wrote: That is one of the factors I am reconsidering. But I'm willing to risk lynching Xyl over DGB if it was between the two them.

Fail. It's not "between DGB and Xyl", it's "DGB clears Xyl".[/quote]

The issue of that is the fact that I'm not dismissing that there could be scum Ophan, given that Townies have roles too.

I won't dispute you for believing DGB.