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Kreriov Mafia Scum
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Bah, nevermind. I had it backwards, Wall-E replaced Kieraen.
I have been trying to see who has posted and could not find Kieraen. I guess it is really Wall-E who has not checked in as yet.Kreriov
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Jase Goon
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X Mafia Scum
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Simply trying to please? Trying to blend in? I'll bite.Idiotking wrote:
I don't see what purpose that would serve, really. The random voting stage is the most annoying part of this game. But if I must, thenyellowbunny wrote: Eh, so what? And why not revote?
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It's a random vote, why should I bother coming up with a fake excuse? :)Unvote: Wall-E.Vote: Idiotking.-
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Idiotking Mafia Scum
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Trying to please? Trying to blend in? HAHAHA!!!!
Personally I'd rather not have a random voting stage at ALL. But then without one the discussion is either slow in coming or doesn't come. So because we HAVE to have one (barring any other fancy ideas to get the discussion going) and because if I abstain from random voting I'll get called out on it.
But this is fine, really, we've got quasi-discussion now, right? Let's get the ball rolling. Somebody start questioning me already!-
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Lleu Townie
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X Mafia Scum
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How did I miss this? Going along with the flow because you don't want people to look at you is the worst reason to go along with the flow. That is actually the scummiest thing I've seen so far. Quite honestly, it's not anything significant, but my best lead right now.Idiotking wrote:and because if I abstain from random voting I'll get called out on it.-
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Lleu Townie
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Oops, just really bad at counting. I guess the third one I thought I saw was qwint's vote on Noob.X wrote:Um, qwints had 2 votes. How did you think he was at L-2?
Considering how eager you were to start discussion, could you at least address the question when you're questioned? Not enough for a FoS, but that still seemed overly dramatic.Idiotking wrote:Guilty conscience, HA! again. I HA! at you.e^(pi*i)+1=0-
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Idiotking Mafia Scum
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Address it? How do you answer the question "Do you have a guilty conscience?" when the answer, regardless of your alignment (especially this early in a game) is always going to be "no"? No, then. It's an answer that means absolutely nothing.
And "going along with the flow" is meaningless this early in the game, again. Ok, I won't "go with the flow". OH CRAP! I get it. By resisting this "flow" you mention, I follow a completely different "flow" you devised. You say I shouldn't go with the flow. Is it all right, then, to NOT go with the flow if the act of NOT going with the flow is going to, essentially, force me to do exactly as you want by specifically NOT going with the flow?
Yeah, by the way, I know the above doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless you look at it from my perspective. A lot of my posts will be like that. I'll go ahead and apologize beforehand.
OK, so. Try and understand this: I hate random voting. With an undying, ridiculously malevolent passion. I know I have to random vote, however. By not doing it, I cause a problem in that has to be resolved though logic when NO logic has any grounds yet. I.E. the creation of the problem itself is the only "act" to refer to, and as such, means unless the problem is removed, leads to a lot of aimless discussion that causes even more problems.
In my experience, random voting is necessary for REAL discussion to take place. So I "go with the flow" to avoid the aforementioned problem. I will, however, immediately stop as soon as something real happens. Something real has happened, so I am quite done now. Natural impulse is screaming for me to start calling X scum and say that he's trying to get me in trouble on baseless evidence. Again, though, that's natural impulse, there's no reasoning behind it. I'm going to go ahead and assume that witchhunting is kind of required when there's no evidence, and I just pulled the short straw with my Wiccan magicks.
Oh, and I lolled when X said "That is actually the scummiest thing I've seen so far." Of course it is, WE'RE ON PAGE THREE.-
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Lleu Townie
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Fair enough.Idiotking wrote:Address it? How do you answer the question "Do you have a guilty conscience?" when the answer, regardless of your alignment (especially this early in a game) is always going to be "no"? No, then. It's an answer that means absolutely nothing.
Could you at least explain why you hate it?Idiotking wrote:OK, so. Try and understand this: I hate random voting. With an undying, ridiculously malevolent passion. I know I have to random vote, however. By not doing it, I cause a problem in that has to be resolved though logic when NO logic has any grounds yet. I.E. the creation of the problem itself is the only "act" to refer to, and as such, means unless the problem is removed, leads to a lot of aimless discussion that causes even more problems.e^(pi*i)+1=0-
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Jase Goon
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I'd have to agree with IK. I don't HATE RVS, but I do wish there was way we could bypass all the silly random crap. Also since abstaining from RVS would lead to suspicions all players are going to "go with the flow".
Unvotestating that you don't like RVS and would for-go it if you reasonably could is not a scum tell.
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yellowbunny Goon
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QFT.IdiotKing wrote: In my experience, random voting is necessary for REAL discussion to take place. So I "go with the flow" to avoid the aforementioned problem. I will, however, immediately stop as soon as something real happens. Something real has happened, so I am quite done now. Natural impulse is screaming for me to start calling X scum and say that he's trying to get me in trouble on baseless evidence. Again, though, that's natural impulse, there's no reasoning behind it. I'm going to go ahead and assume that witchhunting is kind of required when there's no evidence, and I just pulled the short straw with my Wiccan magicks.
That said, did anyone's response to this seem scummy to you?"Someone is playing with my mind, with my little gray cells. " - Hercule Poirot-
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The question was rhetorical, and not meant seriously. Seriously, what are you doing?Lleu wrote:
Considering how eager you were to start discussion, could you at least address the question when you're questioned? Not enough for a FoS, but that still seemed overly dramatic.Idiotking wrote:Guilty conscience, HA! again. I HA! at you.
Not really. More trying to start discussion. And I think I did.Idiotking wrote:Natural impulse is screaming for me to start calling X scum and say that he's trying to get me in trouble on baseless evidence.
Glad you liked it.Idiotking wrote:Oh, and I lolled when X said "That is actually the scummiest thing I've seen so far." Of course it is, WE'RE ON PAGE THREE.
That's not what I was accusing him of. Not liking it but going ahead with it to fit in was what I pointed out. And anyway, it's an infinitesimally minor point.Jase wrote:Vote: Xstating that you don't like RVS and would for-go it if you reasonably could is not a scum tell.
I don't understand this sentence.Jase wrote:Also since abstaining from RVS would lead to suspicions all players are going to "go with the flow".
Do you really think this is going to get us anywhere?Lleu wrote:
Could you at least explain why you hate it?Idiotking wrote:OK, so. Try and understand this: I hate random voting. With an undying, ridiculously malevolent passion. I know I have to random vote, however. By not doing it, I cause a problem in that has to be resolved though logic when NO logic has any grounds yet. I.E. the creation of the problem itself is the only "act" to refer to, and as such, means unless the problem is removed, leads to a lot of aimless discussion that causes even more problems.-
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Idiotking Mafia Scum
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The only explanation I can offer is that it has absolutely no logic behind it. Hence the "random" part. It just... I dunno. It's frustrating to me. I'd probably be much better replacing in to games, but those also leave me feeling unfulfilled. So, since I have to bite the bullet one way or the other, I chose to suffer random voting this time around.Lleu wrote:Could you at least explain why you hate it?
Well, not everybody's responded yet, but Lleu's responses annoy me a little bit. It's like he's trying to get me to answer nonexistent questions or force obvious or common knowledge answers out of me. A lot of people dislike random voting, this can't be the first time he heard of such a dislike.yellowbunny wrote: QFT.
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yellowbunny Goon
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@Jase: why the vote on X? Calling him out for thinking that not liking the random vote stage is scummy is one thing. But a vote for that? Seems like you are randomly trying to change your vote and then covering it with a weak excuse."Someone is playing with my mind, with my little gray cells. " - Hercule Poirot-
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The World No.1 Noob Goon
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I'm more interested in World1Noob, actually. L-2 (qwints) seems a bit far for RVS.
unvote qwints
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even if he was at L-2 it wouldn't matter, if we stopped random voting people because they already have votes on them it wouldn't be random voting any more, it'll be lets spread out the votes evenly so there's no pressure what so ever.Lleu wrote:
I'm more interested in World1Noob, actually. L-2 (qwints) seems a bit far for RVS.
unvote qwints
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Um, qwints had 2 votes. How did you think he was at L-2?marksiqiwang
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Ojanen Mafia Scum
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I don't like the beginning of a game either, but I also kind of don't like going out of your way to express the randomness of the vote (I'm referring to Idiotking here). It slightly accentuates the fact that you're very likely to pull away your vote which is probably what you want to do if you're voting for a scumbuddy. Which is not an uncommon way for scum to in RVS act at least in the games I've played before elsewhere. Like having the excuse to do that already a little more accentuated than usual at the time of the action. This is something extremely minor, though.
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burfy wrote: Umm, does anyone else see something wrong with this statement?
Wall-E wrote:sorry for the delay folks, i didn't push the "Watch this topic for replies" link and forgot about this thread. My bad
Yes! You've gotta go to the thread first to push the button. If you go there why not confirm at the same time? It's only one word.
I was wondering if scum could talk amongst themselves during N0. Then the natural reaction might be PMing your scumbuddies first.-
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VOTECOUNT
(1) qwints (World No.1 Noob)
(1) Wall-E (Ojanen)
(1) X (Jase)
(1) yellowbunny (Kreriov)
(1) Jase (Idiotking)
(1) Idiotking (X)
(2) Lleu (CUBAREY, yellowbunny)
(2) The World No.1 Noob (burfy, qwints)
Not voting
Lleu, Wall-ELast edited by hambargarz on Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:26 am, edited 2 times in total.
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