War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #2725 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:37 pm

Nuwen wrote:Total: 14 rage used could be:

1. 7 scum at 2 rage/week
2. 6 scum at 1 rage/week + 1 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 2 rage/week

3. 5 scum at 1 rage/week + 2 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 2 rage/week
- possible only if one Seraph is unclaimed

4. 4 scum at 1 rage/week + 2 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 3 rage/week - possible only if one Seraph is unclaimed

5. An unknown rage generation mechanic.
6. Any of the above or entirely different combination if unused rage exists.

The hell are you yapping about. If there were 7 scum they would be at majority now!

4 scum = 4 rage/week
5 scum = 3 rage/week

Couldn't be more than 5 scum.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2726 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:39 pm

Completely unsupported conjecture: The scum get 2 rage per player who dies.

I don't see any way of testing this, besides waiting a while and seeing if we all die suddenly.

Nuwen · Post Post #2727 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:41 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Nuwen wrote:Total: 14 rage used could be:

1. 7 scum at 2 rage/week
2. 6 scum at 1 rage/week + 1 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 2 rage/week

3. 5 scum at 1 rage/week + 2 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 2 rage/week
- possible only if one Seraph is unclaimed

4. 4 scum at 1 rage/week + 2 scum (Seraph, presumably) with 3 rage/week - possible only if one Seraph is unclaimed

5. An unknown rage generation mechanic.
6. Any of the above or entirely different combination if unused rage exists.
The hell are you yapping about. If there were 7 scum they would be at majority now!

4 scum = 4 rage/week
5 scum = 3 rage/week

Couldn't be more than 5 scum.

I knew I was missing something.

Tenchi · Post Post #2728 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:42 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:Completely unsupported conjecture: The scum get 2 rage per player who dies.

I don't see any way of testing this, besides waiting a while and seeing if we all die suddenly.

That suggestion doesn't make sense.

I don't know if you're scum deliberately trying to make us play with stupid assumptions or you are just...?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2729 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:45 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Completely unsupported conjecture: The scum get 2 rage per player who dies.

I don't see any way of testing this, besides waiting a while and seeing if we all die suddenly.
That suggestion doesn't make sense.

I don't know if you're scum deliberately trying to make us play with stupid assumptions or you are just...?

Why doesn't it make sense?

Tenchi · Post Post #2730 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:51 pm

My XYL notes. I didn't read much today except the current happenings, but I got past after Shinnen's death.

178: Xylthixlm proposes we kill both Kinetic and Zwet, but let's kill Zwet first

214: Xyl mentions to not let Seraphims use the blades unless its a damage race for the sake of transparency

226: DG denies Juls proposal to hurt Xyl

227-228: Quick exachange. Juls accuses Xyl of twisting words, which I agree with in that instance.

263-264: Xyl wants to hurt Juls or Walt. Wants to hurt Walt more for lurking.

321: Xyl repeats the Walt case: "Every word he's written has been scummy and noncommittal."

326: Zwet accuses Xyl of being trigger happy.

328: Juls wants Xyl dead because Xyl is spreading damage around.

330: Xyl requests Rolf to help with hurting Walt

334: Around here, Walt gives a good point on Xyl's math on the number of misynches Town can afford

360/368: Xyl declares Walt as scum and Seraphim is town.

377: Shinnen attacks Rolf for hypocrisy. Marks Rolf, Tajo, Xyl and ABR as scum. (Scratch that, he says it wasnt a serious comment)

404: Seraphim does not think Xyl is scum. Backs a Zwet or Walt lynch.

427: Xyl denies Walt's towniness declared by ABR.

464: Seraphim deflects. Uses WIFOM to clear Tajo. Xyl defends Seraphim.

473, 474: Xyl admits he has this weird system for cleaing people. Says Walt has done nothing to clear himself compared to others who were lurkers.

477: Xyl is against the hurting of Seraphim and Fonz.

482: Didn't read too much. Walt mentions Xyl is scummy. REVIEW THIS TENCHI

559: Xyl declares wanting to hurt Shinnen, then Walt

685: Xyl accuses Walt of being wishy washy and distancing from Shinnen

707-708: ABR thinks Xyl is protown, trusts Fonz, Rolf, Xyl, Tajo and Nuwen

Tenchi · Post Post #2731 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:54 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Completely unsupported conjecture: The scum get 2 rage per player who dies.

I don't see any way of testing this, besides waiting a while and seeing if we all die suddenly.
That suggestion doesn't make sense.

I don't know if you're scum deliberately trying to make us play with stupid assumptions or you are just...?
Why doesn't it make sense?

If scum get rewarded for every player they kill (most of which will be Townies), then it is unfair and heavily skewed against us.

Further, I don't even know, at this point, why you would even suggest we all wait a while now that we know scum get rage points at some faster rate.

Also, you don't spend MONEY to get MONEY back. (I spend RAGE to get more RAGE?) It's bad game design.

Tenchi · Post Post #2732 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:58 pm

Xyl, you are an active player in this game. Why even bother debating me on theory when we are all about to get killed?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2733 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:59 pm

Uh, the point of the second line was that we can't afford to test it. I wasn't suggesting we actually wait.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2734 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:00 pm

Why did Tenchi suddenly go all berserk on me when I made that suggestion? Did I say something that scares him?

Tenchi · Post Post #2735 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:02 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:Why did Tenchi suddenly go all berserk on me when I made that suggestion? Did I say something that scares him?

I'm not panicking because you made a ridonculous suggestion. I'm panicking because I want advice from my trusteds and they are not here. And I'm panicking because we lost three townies in one day. Two out of rage.

Tenchi · Post Post #2736 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:03 pm

Tenchi wrote:Xyl, you are an active player in this game. Why even bother debating me on theory when we are all about to get killed?

YOU DIDNT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

Lemme rephrase it: Any new insights after the kills? If it's not you, then who?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2737 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:04 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Why did Tenchi suddenly go all berserk on me when I made that suggestion? Did I say something that scares him?
I'm not panicking because you made a ridonculous suggestion. I'm panicking because I want advice from my trusteds and they are not here. And I'm panicking because we lost three townies in one day. Two out of rage.

Ah. That looked kind of like a panicked attempt to discredit me. Must be my imagination.

Tenchi · Post Post #2738 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:05 pm

LOL Xyl. I'm not falling for that.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2739 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:06 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Tenchi wrote:Xyl, you are an active player in this game. Why even bother debating me on theory when we are all about to get killed?
YOU DIDNT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

Lemme rephrase it: Any new insights after the kills? If it's not you, then who?

I'm betting the scum are out of rage for the moment. If they aren't, we're probably going to lose anyways, so I won't worry about it.

At the moment I'm concentrating on the numbers. Those two points of damage to DGB and Nuwen are interesting...

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2740 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:07 pm

Tenchi wrote:LOL Xyl. I'm not falling for that.

You didn't actually give any reason why I must be wrong, you know.

Tenchi · Post Post #2741 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:08 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:
Tenchi wrote:LOL Xyl. I'm not falling for that.
You didn't actually give any reason why I must be wrong, you know.

I'm attacking you. And your reaction is justified.

Let the others judge who was right. <3

Tenchi · Post Post #2742 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:09 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:
Tenchi wrote:
Tenchi wrote:Xyl, you are an active player in this game. Why even bother debating me on theory when we are all about to get killed?
YOU DIDNT ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

Lemme rephrase it: Any new insights after the kills? If it's not you, then who?
I'm betting the scum are out of rage for the moment. If they aren't, we're probably going to lose anyways, so I won't worry about it.

At the moment I'm concentrating on the numbers. Those two points of damage to DGB and Nuwen are interesting...

We can do the math later, and that what was what you have been doing a lot in the game.

Now again, tell us who you think is scum.

(For the record, I feel that speculating on why DGB and Nuwen were hurt is full of WIFOM.)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2743 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:11 pm

I'd rather do the math. We've already proved that I'm horrible at finding scum.

Tenchi · Post Post #2744 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:14 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:I'd rather do the math. We've already proved that I'm horrible at finding scum.

LOL. You are most probably next on the chopping block. And we know that stating who you suspect is harmless. Now either...

1. You are scum, and is satisfied with leading 2,3 or 4 HURT motivated kills and wants your buddies to continue your job OR
2. You have stopped "scum hunting", which also means you're scum.

Pick your poison.

Tenchi · Post Post #2745 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:14 pm

Just answer the damn question Xyl. <3

Xylthixlm · Post Post #2746 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:18 pm

Tenchi: Let me guess... the scum plan is to burn a bunch of rage, kill people, then go hard after me (after all, I'm scummy and already damaged) for the win.

Nice try. It might even work.

Too bad your sudden change of demeanor is way, way, way too obvious.

Scumlist will appear after I have had some time to think.

Tenchi · Post Post #2747 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:20 pm

Xylthixlm wrote: Too bad your sudden change of demeanor is way, way, way too obvious.

Nope. I have expressed my disgust of you for some time since the voting system was reintroduced. It's just now I had the time to elaborate on it.

Nuwen · Post Post #2748 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:20 pm

Tenchi wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:I'd rather do the math. We've already proved that I'm horrible at finding scum.
1. You are scum, and is satisfied with leading 2,3 or 4 HURT motivated kills and wants your buddies to continue your job OR
2. You have stopped "scum hunting", which also means you're scum.

Pick your poison.

Wow. Whatever example of 'loaded' in the wiki needs to be replaced with the above.

Tenchi · Post Post #2749 (ISO) » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:21 pm

So Nuwen, you are actually OK with Xyl not telling us who he suspects?