War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[q21]

Let me get this straight, there are virtually unassailable numbers of votes on two players and we aren't going to kill them straight away? I thought people were against stalling the game.

We need to decide

which of them

to kill.

Personally I'm favouring ABR, but I'll participate in killing Seraphim should it be the will of the town.

[populartajo]

The game was lost big part because of MM. The voting system there was a failure since it was a joke and badly implemented. Its not a reason why town lost.

Yeah, we could also agree that town lost because the town was divided in factions. There were players that liked an agressive stance and there were players that liked a pacific stance. Scum abused and used the agressive ones as a way to bring chaos to the game. Pacifics obv would go against anarchists.

What I am saying is that if we know that scum have an advantage with players playing Chuck Norris, why are we promoting and not punishing this behaviour? Even worse what is preventing scum to hide behind an agressive stance knowing this?

[The Fonz]

Scum used and hid behind the pacific faction to eliminate the aggressive ones, who were town.

[populartajo]

Scum used and hid behind the pacific faction to eliminate the aggressive ones, who were town.

you are saying that being aggressive means being town?

[populartajo]

Scum used and hid behind the pacific faction to eliminate the aggressive ones, who were town.

there were a lot of things happening there but in the end we come to the same conclusion: aggression is not the way to go.

[populartajo]

Scum used and hid behind the pacific faction to eliminate the aggressive ones, who were town.

there were a lot of things happening there but in the end we come to the same conclusion: aggression is not the way to go.

if we know that scum can abuse this, why for god's sake are people still considering this a viable strategy?

[Xylthixlm]

Dead

# Shinnen_no_Me

- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz,

Kinetic

,

DrippingGoofball

, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21,

Juls

, Xylthixlm, Nuwen

x2

, The Fonz, roflcopter

x2

(13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)

# Hoopla

- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, roflcopter

x2

,

WaltWishbone

, Albert B. Rampage,

WeyounsLastClone

,

Juls

, Seraphim,

Juls

,

WaltWishbone

(9) Healed by: (0)

# WaltWishbone

- Hurt by: DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, Nuwen, Xylthixlm,

WeyounsLastClone

, Nuwen

x2

, zwetschenwasser, q21, Seraphim, vIQleS, Xylthixlm,

zwetschenwasser

, Nuwen

x2

(14) Healed by: vIQleS,

Kinetic

(2)

# Juls

- Hurt by: Xylthixlm, zwetschenwasser, vIQleS, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe,

Seraphim

, DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, zwetschenwasser, Giuseppe,

Kinetic

(10) Healed by: zwetschenwasser (1)

# Kinetic

- Hurt by: roflcopter, roflcopter

x2

,

Juls

, roflcopter

x2

, Albert B. Rampage,

????? x3

(10) Healed by:

Hoopla

,

DrippingGoofball

,

DrippingGoofball

(1)

# WeyounsLastClone/Cybele

(-1 HP) - Hurt by: Xylthixlm, Seraphim, Albert B. Rampage, Firestarter, populartajo, Xylthixlm, Seraphim, Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz,

Firestarter

(9) Healed by: q21 (1)

Hurting a scum = +3
Healing a scum = -3
Hurting a town = -1
Healing a town = +1

The Fonz +6 (Shinnen) + -1 (WLC) =

+5

q21 +3 (Shinnen) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + +1 (WLC) =

+3

Albert B. Rampage +6 (Shinnen) + -2 (Hoopla) + -1 (Kinetic) + -1 (WLC) =

+2

DrippingGoofball +3 (Shinnen) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + +2 (Kinetic) =

+2

Nuwen +6 (Shinnen) + -5 (WaltWishbone) =

+1

populartajo 0
Tenchi 0

Drench

Firestarter -1 (WLC) =

-1

roflcopter +6 (Shinnen) + -2 (Hoopla) + -5 (Kinetic) =

-1

vIQleS -1 (WaltWishbone) + +1 (WaltWishbone) + -1 (Juls) =

-1

Giuseppe -2 (Juls) =

-2

zwetschenwasser -2 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + +1 (Juls) =

-3

Seraphim +3 (Shinnen) + -3 (Shinnen) + -1 (Hoopla) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + -1 (Juls) + -1 (WLC) =

-4

Xylthixlm +3 (Shinnen) + -3 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + -2 (WLC) =

-4

Hurting a scum = 0
Healing a scum = 0
Hurting a town = -1
Healing a town = +1

populartajo 0
q21 0 (Shinnen) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + +1 (WLC) = 0
Tenchi 0

Drench

Firestarter -1 (WLC) =

-1

DrippingGoofball 0 (Shinnen) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + +2 (Kinetic) =

-1

The Fonz 0 (Shinnen) + -1 (WLC) =

-1

vIQleS -1 (WaltWishbone) + +1 (WaltWishbone) + -1 (Juls) =

-1

Giuseppe -2 (Juls) =

-2

zwetschenwasser -2 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + +1 (Juls) =

-3

Albert B. Rampage 0 (Shinnen) + -2 (Hoopla) + -1 (Kinetic) + -1 (WLC) =

-4

Seraphim 0 (Shinnen) + 0 (Shinnen) + -1 (Hoopla) + -1 (WaltWishbone) + -1 (Juls) + -1 (WLC) =

-4

Nuwen 0 (Shinnen) + -5 (WaltWishbone) =

-5

roflcopter 0 (Shinnen) + -2 (Hoopla) + -5 (Kinetic) =

-7

Xylthixlm 0 (Shinnen) + -3 (WaltWishbone) + -2 (Juls) + -2 (WLC) =

-7

Uh. That's pretty bad.

I'm going to sit

right here

until the scum stop following me.

[roflcopter]

no, xyl, you're going to die

[Seraphim]

I need to reread in isolation but I've been getting scum vibes from Xyl for a while. This is not OMGUS, just a confused townie realizing he might have been played this entire time.

[Xylthixlm]

no, xyl, you're going to die

Probably.

[populartajo]

Im going to punch my nose if rolf turns out to be right.

[Xylthixlm]

Im going to punch my nose if rolf turns out to be right.

Your nose is quite safe.

[Mr. Flay]

Without warning or prelude, viQleS crumples to the ground and bleeds out, the glow of his body sinking into the ground like rain. Upon closer examination, numerous wounds rend his holy flesh without anyone remembering where they came from. A mocking laugh echoes off the skies...

NUMBERS DWINDLE AND THE SKIES GROW HEAVY WITH POTENTIAL STORMS... VIQLES YOUR VISION HAS BEEN DARKENED FOR THE LAST TIME.

viQleS, Loyal Ophan, has been cast out of Heaven.

FIRST DAMAGE TALLY OF THE NINETEENTH ÆON

Nuwen, populartajo, q21, and The Fonz are all at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, roflcopter and Seraphim are all at normal HP.

Albert B. Rampage has 1 damage.
Tenchi has 2 damage.
Firestarter and zwetschenwasser have 4 damage each.
Xylthixlm has 5 damage.

[roflcopter]

xyl and seraphim both need to die as soon as possible

[populartajo]

7 rage points. Seven.

[populartajo]

viqles is an odd choice. why now?

[roflcopter]

I don't see any need to subvert the hurt/heal mechanism. Just try to concentrate your fire on people who are already hurt, rather than wearing everyone down at once. That will make it harder for scum to suddenly kill townies using secret damage.

Err... Wouldn't that help the scum? I mean, if we concentrate the fire on only one player, scum will surely take advantage of that. I don't know, that you suggest is really suspicious.

FoS: Xylthixlm

(what a complicated username...)

"friend of scum" distancing

[roflcopter]

A plan was proposed to heal. Most people were exchanging heals. I made the mistake of choosing you to be the person I healed. I expected a heal back. That is not eager.

So, you only healed me because you expected a heal back?

No...twisting words...more scumpoints. I wanted everyone healed to +1.

notable, because juls is correct

[roflcopter]

oh man the day one viqles wagon is

juicy

. it also confirms to me that seraphim and nuwen are both scum.

[roflcopter]

also, dgb was very clearly angling to get viq killed instead of shinnen

[roflcopter]

I'm entertaining the thought of a scumteam comprised of the following players:

Seraphim
Drench
DGB
Shinnen_no_Me

Unvote ViQles

It really looks like you're either fishing for support, or trying to see who's malleable enough to play Follow-the-ABR.

What happened between twenty minutes ago and now to remove Xyl and ViQles from your list?

nuwen is upset that abr has at least two, more likely three of her scumbuddies on his shortlist at this point

[roflcopter]

unvote: tajo vote: nuwen

[DrippingGoofball]

also, dgb was very clearly angling to get viq killed instead of shinnen

Yes, I thought he was scummy. I watched him, and found out he was an Ophan. After that, I defended him. I started to tell people to lay off him pretty early in the game, too.

[roflcopter]

also, dgb was very clearly angling to get viq killed instead of shinnen

Yes, I thought he was scummy. I watched him, and found out he was an Ophan. After that, I defended him. I started to tell people to lay off him pretty early in the game, too.

yeah, and you also made this non-judgement on shinnen and continued ignoring him, hurting walt wishbone after the non-case against him was presented by xyl instead:

DGB, thoughts on Shinnen_no_Me?

He sounds like he hates the world. His face is red, steam shoots out of his ears, and he's popping veins in his forehead.

[roflcopter]

dear townspeople: re-reading is your friend. reading up to the point where shinnen gets killed is especially important.