War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[Tenchi]

Interesting ABR. With all that is going on right now, that statement was a long-shot. Similar to the attacks of Shinnen on the 75% thing.

Noted.

I don't understand this.

The thing you said: "So you know they are all townies huh..."

I felt was a long shot accusation.

[Xylthixlm]

It would be really cool if someone would heal me before roflcopter gets in another two hits. Before or after killing WLC, either way.

[The Fonz]

Interesting ABR. With all that is going on right now, that statement was a long-shot. Similar to the attacks of Shinnen on the 75% thing.

Noted.

I don't understand this.

Shinnen's 75% attack was an attempt to twist a reasonable approximation (about a quarter of each town are usually scum) into an allegation of secret knowledge.

Your attempt to paint albert's 'those townies on my wagon' stance as knowing they are all town is similar.

[Xylthixlm]

What the hell don't you understand about HURTING ONE PERSON AT A TIME? Concentrate your efforts, does this ring a bell?

There's some truth to that; however, there's that chance that scumbags are leading the town to kill one townie at a time, say, after gaining town cred from bus'ing one of their own on day 1.

I'm still trying to figure out who on the Shinnen wagon was scum. There has to be at least two.

[Giuseppe]

Alright Xyl, I don't believe Rofl should be able to be acting as unilaterally as he is. I've been saying all game I don't believe in unilateral action, and I'll stand to it.

Here's your

sign

heal.

Heal: Xylthixlm

I also support the ABR lynch. I think it's time he kicked the bucket, as he hasn't put forth anything compelling lately. I can't hurt for another 24 hours, but count me in on that.

[Giuseppe]

EBWOP:

Heal: Xylthixlm

[DrippingGoofball]

Your attempt to paint albert's 'those townies on my wagon' stance as knowing they are all town is similar.

We'll see in end game.

[The Fonz]

I'm still trying to figure out who on the Shinnen wagon was scum. There has to be at least two.

Gimme a sec.

[The Fonz]

Seraphim still stands out as looking like a bus.

The troika of seraph, xyl, and nuw follows.

Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?

[Xylthixlm]

Hurt: Rofl

for creating groups of "sure-protown-buddies", very scummy.

With an divine glow, Shinnen unsheathes her longsword, with the speed of a lighting, and swiftly yet precisely strikes the fallen Rofl's back, leaving a trial of fire as the edge cuts both the air and the flesh of the heathen.

I also read back Walt's post, and I couldn't really find a case on him. Xyl accused him of scumlurking, but I don't think anyone with a life can keep up actively to the post rate of this topic. The same happened with Hoppla. Yes, there are a few strange things, but nothing as scum like Rofl's and Fonz' attitude.

... I actually can't tell. Walt and Hoopla were both townies, so Shinnen is acting with info there... actually the best bet for a link to a buddy in this post is Fonz.

[DrippingGoofball]

Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?

I'd say it would depend it Shinnen thought he was going down for sure. He might want to make a last-ditch distancing attempt. But if Shinnen thought there may be a chance that he would survive, he'd be more likely to strike at a townie.

It's guesswork, but that would be my guess.

[The Fonz]

Why? (OK, i'm being facetious- it's obvious).

[The Fonz]

The above is addressed to Xyl. simulposted with dgb.

[Xylthixlm]

Why? (OK, i'm being facetious- it's obvious).

Just in case you actually want the answer, it's because Shinnen named two people as scum, and you're the one she didn't actually hurt.

DGB might have a point about Shinnen acting differently if she was planning to get killed - good time to send confusing signals.

[The Fonz]

THat would be the obvious bit, Xyl.

[Tenchi]

Hurt: Rofl

for creating groups of "sure-protown-buddies", very scummy.

With an divine glow, Shinnen unsheathes her longsword, with the speed of a lighting, and swiftly yet precisely strikes the fallen Rofl's back, leaving a trial of fire as the edge cuts both the air and the flesh of the heathen.

I also read back Walt's post, and I couldn't really find a case on him. Xyl accused him of scumlurking, but I don't think anyone with a life can keep up actively to the post rate of this topic. The same happened with Hoppla. Yes, there are a few strange things, but nothing as scum like Rofl's and Fonz' attitude.

... I actually can't tell. Walt and Hoopla were both townies, so Shinnen is acting with info there... actually the best bet for a link to a buddy in this post is Fonz.

NOTE: Also early on, page 156, without strong suspicions or anything, Shinnen voted for Rolf.

[Firestarter]

Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?

It looks like the latter in my opinion.
Shinnen attacks Rofl in several of her posts.

Shinnen was advocating discussion in the main which allows for delaying tactics, and rofl's slaughter tactics seemed to be getting to Shinnen.

However, I think theres more likely a case of distancing from Seraphim from what I see in Shinnens isolated posts.

What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.

Can we clear this up..?

[Giuseppe]

I'm not tolerating anything unilateral. Heal Xyl right now to make up for Rofl's work.

[DrippingGoofball]

What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.

My attempt to heal Kinetic failed on account on an error on my part. But no one talked of punishing me for trying

Why bring this up now, I wonder. Besides, I approve of a Xyl heal.

[The Fonz]

Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?

It looks like the latter in my opinion.
Shinnen attacks Rofl in several of her posts.

Shinnen was advocating discussion in the main which allows for delaying tactics, and rofl's slaughter tactics seemed to be getting to Shinnen.

However, I think theres more likely a case of distancing from Seraphim from what I see in Shinnens isolated posts.

What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.

Can we clear this up..?

No. But the problem is, you then need to get support to enforce it.

[Firestarter]

What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.

My attempt to heal Kinetic failed on account on an error on my part. But no one talked of punishing me for trying

Why bring this up now, I wonder. Besides, I approve of a Xyl heal.

Well, mostly because there has been such instances of these type actions, and for all the talk about NOT having players do this, there has been no such repercussions on the culprits.

Rofl is on a tangent of destruction, and as pointed out already, the aim is not the best.

I myself, for whatever reason (possibly scum opportunism) have recieved damage on a par with the lowest hurt players.
I would like a recharge to take me away from a Rage threshold.

Are you objecting to having a stance on the unilateral hurts/heals DGB?

[The Fonz]

Ah, I've had an idea. Designate a specific player as designated enforcer, on a 24 hr rota. That player may not harm or heal of their own volition, but will be required to enforce the hurting without support rule (not needing support). If they break it, everyone else in the scheme masshurts, no questions asked.

We don't even need full compliance for this, as long as there's enough partaking to defend the system.

[Tenchi]

Ah, I've had an idea. Designate a specific player as designated enforcer, on a 24 hr rota. That player may not harm or heal of their own volition, but will be required to enforce the hurting without support rule (not needing support). If they break it, everyone else in the scheme masshurts, no questions asked.

We don't even need full compliance for this, as long as there's enough partaking to defend the system.

I don't understand this proposal and I feel it is non-enforceable.

[Firestarter]

Question to everyone: do you feel the Shinnen hurt on rofl is likely distancing, or genuine attempt to harm an antagonist?

It looks like the latter in my opinion.
Shinnen attacks Rofl in several of her posts.

Shinnen was advocating discussion in the main which allows for delaying tactics, and rofl's slaughter tactics seemed to be getting to Shinnen.

However, I think theres more likely a case of distancing from Seraphim from what I see in Shinnens isolated posts.

What stance are we taking with unilateral actions..
Single helas/hurts should not go unpunished.

Can we clear this up..?

No. But the problem is, you then need to get support to enforce it.

Its not a problem...
3 players can support a hurt punishment on anyone going outside the boundry we put up.

Similar to the way hurts are dished out.

[Giuseppe]

Would anyone object to me filling that role?

It would just be organizing a mass hurt on players who break the unilateral rule, right?