War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[q21]

The most active players in the game are such:

DGB, pop, Xyl, myself, rofl, nuwen, ABR, Julz (to an extent)

Also, just remembered this, I've posted more than Juls and almost as much as Nuwen.

[q21]

I plan on killing Julz at 8:30 when my hurt renews. How about healing me instead since I have 6 damage?

How long until 8:30 your time?

[The Fonz]

@Again- if a significant faction want someone dead, they die eventually. If you want to survive, what you need to do is rally support for killing roflcopter. Having your supporters heal you whilst Rofl etc kill you WILL JUST STALL THE GAME WHILST RAGE ACCUMULATES. For like the zillionth time.

That my plan is scum-favoring is the biggest pile of horseshit i've ever heard. Your plan was scum-favoring.

I mean, I strongly feel Juls is town. But if a significant faction want her dead, she's going to die sooner rather than later. If I try to heal her, rather than

getting on with scumhunting,

the town will lose.

Obviously, dealing out hurts left right and centre, rather than isolating one suspect, building a case, then hurting to death is mega scummy.

But if 3 bumbling idiots think I'm scum, then hell yeah, its on. I'm gonna bring the scum crashing.

I kinda like the symmetry of both Kinetic and ABR complaining that they're in the firing line due to a handful of people being convinced they're scum.

Intent to hurt is negated by Intent to heal, so if there are more people who WANT to heal me, you can't hurt me.

Hmmm. So now a little bit of Xyl's system, is it? It seems to me, Albert, you seem to be appropriating, and advocating, whichever part of whichever system seems most likely to keep you alive.

I'm not going to be participating in this ABR/rofl vs Kinetic etc faction battle. At least, not immediately. The reason for this is:

Nuwen killed off an obvtown for the spurious reason of 'getting information on Rofl's alignment.' Comes up town, conveniently giving him and his scumbuddies excuse to go after the other town seraph. Sacrifice move? Rofl dies, comes up town, he starts killracing, using rage dumps to finish off people.

At present, I think Nuwen, q21, and Zwet are scum.

3) Firestarter fine, replace with Fonz. Fonz endorses killing you.
?

WHAT!?

Yeah I call for a ceasefire to do a complete re-read.

Can I maybe get some heals then... I really don't like being so perilously close to dying...

NO!!! Survival instinct ftl! (if town).

[The Fonz]

Hmmm... re-read shows one actually-significant thing done by q21 is hurting zwet. Rethink.

[Kinetic]

@Again- if a significant faction want someone dead, they die eventually. If you want to survive, what you need to do is rally support for killing roflcopter. Having your supporters heal you whilst Rofl etc kill you WILL JUST STALL THE GAME WHILST RAGE ACCUMULATES. For like the zillionth time.

That my plan is scum-favoring is the biggest pile of horseshit i've ever heard. Your plan was scum-favoring.

Both plans could potentially favor scum.

Your plan is more likely to cause a significant portion of the town to be hurt at the same time which I fear is a MUCH bigger threat to town because each rage point has more impact.

The conserve hurts and concentrate fire plan has the potential to take a little time, thus allowing a few more rage points to accumulate, however each rage point is reduced in power since in order to kill someone a larger amount of them would be needed to kill.

Thus, I've been sort of Angling for something a little middle of the road:

Concentrate fire, so we don't have a large amount of the town low, through a consensus, but not take a long time to decide this. [/quote]

I mean, I strongly feel Juls is town. But if a significant faction want her dead, she's going to die sooner rather than later. If I try to heal her, rather than

getting on with scumhunting,

the town will lose.

Are Rofl and ABR considered a "significant faction" all of a sudden? Plus, I'm not convinced that they are scum just yet. The problem with this game is that votes cannot be moved very fast and are effectively permanent in some ways.

Healing is a useful mechanic and it should be used in certain cases. When someone that a LARGE MAJORITY of the town feel is town is low in health (Hell, like Walt), healing is a good thing so they cannot be sniped.

Obviously, dealing out hurts left right and centre, rather than isolating one suspect, building a case, then hurting to death is mega scummy.

I support this message.

Yeah I call for a ceasefire to do a complete re-read.

Can I maybe get some heals then... I really don't like being so perilously close to dying...

NO!!! Survival instinct ftl! (if town).

Ummm, no. Right now I'm in range to be killed by VERY few rage points. I'd like a few heals so that I could at least be above that range. Seeing as I can be killed a lot faster than I can be healed, I don't think its an inappropriate request.

O, and

Hurt:Julz

[zwetschenwasser]

If Juls is town, kinetic will die.

[DrippingGoofball]

You rather just proclaim me scum, like they did with Walt, without any evidence?

The case against Wishbone was stronger than the case against Shinnen, despite the outcomes.

[Kinetic]

If Juls is town, kinetic will die.

I'm most likely going to die anyway, but your scumtell is noted either way.

[DrippingGoofball]

It seems to me, Albert, you seem to be appropriating, and advocating, whichever part of whichever system seems most likely to keep you alive.

ABSOLUTELY.

This is the crux of the matter of ABR's scumminess.

ABR plays to survive, yes, as SCUM. His buddies are bowling pins. I can see it at work, Shinnen was his first victim. Maybe they disagreed in the QT. Then Juls learnt a lesson.

[q21]

Hmmm... re-read shows one actually-significant thing done by q21 is hurting zwet. Rethink.

May I take this as one of the two sanctions I want to hurt zwet again?

[DrippingGoofball]

May I take this as one of the two sanctions I want to hurt zwet again?

I'm against hurting zwet.

[Kinetic]

Hmmm... re-read shows one actually-significant thing done by q21 is hurting zwet. Rethink.

May I take this as one of the two sanctions I want to hurt zwet again?

I think you should heal me. You and DGB both. And anyone else who wants to as well. I'd feel a lot better at 2-3 damage than where I'm at now.

[Mr. Flay]

The war raged on through the dark, and at dawn a glittering fog of ice crystals peppered the air, stirred about by the shouting and gesticulating. Remarkably few blows were traded, but enough to claim another angel, tossing them over the edge and plummeting as they dissipated.

MY PRECIOUS JULS - YOUR ANTICS AND HIGHLY AMUSING (IF INAPPROPRIATE) DEVIL HORNS COSTUME WILL BE MISSED.

Juls, Loyal Cherub, was cast out of Heaven.

FIRST DAMAGE TALLY OF THE SIXTEENTH ÆON

Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, Seraphim, The Fonz, and WeyounsLastClone are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, and roflcopter are all at normal HP.

vIQleS has 1 damage.
Tenchi and Xylthixlm have 2 damage each.
Firestarter and zwetschenwasser have 4 damage each.
Kinetic has 6 damage.

[DrippingGoofball]

Kinetic, it's hugely unlikely that you'll be healed enough, unless there's a coalition of players in favor of it. I certainly would could myself as part of this coalition.

Any volunteers?

[q21]

May I take this as one of the two sanctions I want to hurt zwet again?

I'm against hurting zwet.

So, one for, one against? I'll wait until it gets to two more for than against.

Trying to decide what exactly a Juls-town flip tells us. The answer I believe is, well, nothing. Except that she honestly did think ABR as the towniest player.

[DrippingGoofball]

Here's why we should hurt zwet. Zwet has been far less scummy, than, say, ABR, or some other player of your choice. Since you're very unlikely to create a concensus to take zwet to the lynch, hurting him can only make it easier for the scum to take him down, if zwet is town.

[zwetschenwasser]

Here's why we

should

hurt Zwet, DGB?

[Kinetic]

Kinetic, it's hugely unlikely that you'll be healed enough, unless there's a coalition of players in favor of it. I certainly would could myself as part of this coalition.

Any volunteers?

I just need a couple of heals to get out of danger of a rage dump. Right now given even conservative estimates I can be killed by a rage dump.

If you are willing to heal me, then heal me, otherwise just saying you will (like Xyl did earlier) means very little.

[q21]

I'm assuming that's meant to be "Here's why we shouldn't hurt zwet." I can see what you're saying, though I disagree that's he's been far less scummy than anyone.

Though if he were really a town Ophan I would expect him to be dead by now.

[populartajo]

Im V/LA until tomorrow, maybe Monday.
I skimmed the last pages. Guys, if something is going to lose the game is THE FUCKING EGOS you all have. GET OVER IT.
Both Kin and ABR are town.
Xyl lost town points like shit. I need to reeavaluate him.

[Kinetic]

Im V/LA until tomorrow, maybe Monday.
I skimmed the last pages. Guys, if something is going to lose the game is THE FUCKING EGOS you all have. GET OVER IT.
Both Kin and ABR are town.
Xyl lost town points like shit. I need to reeavaluate him.

HEAL ME THEN, KK? You will be no longer have a cooldown by the time you return tomorrow. >>

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm hurting ABR or Kinetic later today.

[Kinetic]

I'm hurting ABR or Kinetic later today.

Who's your support for this hurt?

[DrippingGoofball]

Here's why we

should

hurt Zwet, DGB?

I meant NOT hurt zwet. Sorry about that.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't need support to hurt whoever I find scummy. Actually, nevermind. I've started my meditation, so forget the hurts.