War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[populartajo]

Firestarter's damage was an accident which may have cost the town a player. Dammit, stupid player replaced *grumble grumble*

What, tajo, has Juls done that is pro-town in the slightest?

Not giving a shit about this game. Being polemic when the logical play as scum is to try to win survival points. Getting frustrated for the speed of the game and for not having time.
I would put her at a neutral position, knowing that she has promised to catch up soon.
Your turn. Tell me anything obv-scum.

[populartajo]

I told people I had a test today and I would catch up after the test...it is likely I won't get anything up of substance until tomorrow because I won't be able to catch up. Stop threatening to kill me and just do it if you are going to. If you are I won't catch up. There is so much attitude in this game I really don't give a shit if I get killed or not.

This for example. Scum would provoke people like that

[populartajo]

I told people I had a test today and I would catch up after the test...it is likely I won't get anything up of substance until tomorrow because I won't be able to catch up. Stop threatening to kill me and just do it if you are going to. If you are I won't catch up. There is so much attitude in this game I really don't give a shit if I get killed or not.

This for example. Scum would provoke people like that?

Missed a question mark.

[Seraphim]

Alright, I'll be willing to lay off of Juls(as I'm somewhat convinced, though I still wish she would at least defend herself a little better) if you can name another viable suspect right now that I can hurt.

[DrippingGoofball]

So, Juls is scum why?

I'll be delighted to explain it once more. I'll increase the level of detail.

In her first 12 posts, she starts off participating, but mostly IIoA, chiming in lightly on strategy, nothing deep. She quickly zeroes in on Xyl (who leans town in my book), and Kinetic (who leans firmly town in my book). She says nothing else on any other player. She's very stingy with her opinions and suspicions. She's not a carefree scum hunter, she's calculating each move to give herself out as little as possible.

In keeping with this strategy of not giving oneself away one iota, and meekly pushing non-cases against the wrong players, she switches gears in post #13 and she becomes ABR's zombie. This relieves her of any responsibility in her hurt choices, and completely obliterates any possible scumtell on her, that doesn't also taint ABR, and taint ABR to a greater extent than it does her.

So. If ABR is town, she made herself into ABR's Kuato (Total Recall movie reference), and intends for him to take the fall while she plays innocent follower. She may also try to avoid attracting ABR's attention in a negative way at the same time, so if ABR is town, she's hitting two birds with one stone. Maybe ABR is being Kuato'd by Juls, haha. I like that. It's a new verb.

If ABR is scum, then my theory is that they've had some tiff in the QT, and she decided to obey him under threat.

Regardless of ABR's alignment, she's scummy all the way. More so than ABR.

[DrippingGoofball]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

[DrippingGoofball]

Xyl, Kinetic, zwet and Firestarter should NOT be on this list.

Im thinking that Juls shouldnt be in this list also.

I'm thinking you don't want anyone lynched, hahahhaha.

[populartajo]

Alright, I'll be willing to lay off of Juls(as I'm somewhat convinced, though I still wish she would at least defend herself a little better) if you can name another viable suspect right now that I can hurt.

We might start to heal people that shouldnt be in that list. Rage points are a potential problem right now.

[populartajo]

So, Juls is scum why?

I'll be delighted to explain it once more. I'll increase the level of detail.

In her first 12 posts, she starts off participating, but mostly IIoA, chiming in lightly on strategy, nothing deep. She quickly zeroes in on Xyl (who leans town in my book), and Kinetic (who leans firmly town in my book). She says nothing else on any other player. She's very stingy with her opinions and suspicions. She's not a carefree scum hunter, she's calculating each move to give herself out as little as possible.

In keeping with this strategy of not giving oneself away one iota, and meekly pushing non-cases against the wrong players, she switches gears in post #13 and she becomes ABR's zombie. This relieves her of any responsibility in her hurt choices, and completely obliterates any possible scumtell on her, that doesn't also taint ABR, and taint ABR to a greater extent than it does her.

So. If ABR is town, she made herself into ABR's Kuato (Total Recall movie reference), and intends for him to take the fall while she plays innocent follower. She may also try to avoid attracting ABR's attention in a negative way at the same time, so if ABR is town, she's hitting two birds with one stone. Maybe ABR is being Kuato'd by Juls, haha. I like that. It's a new verb.

If ABR is scum, then my theory is that they've had some tiff in the QT, and she decided to obey him under threat.

Regardless of ABR's alignment, she's scummy all the way. More so than ABR.

I understand this but all this behavior is also ext possible to come from a player that has no time.
Let her catch up and not treat her to hurt her. If she is scum, it would become too obvious. Trust me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, I'll be willing to lay off of Juls(as I'm somewhat convinced, though I still wish she would at least defend herself a little better) if you can name another viable suspect right now that I can hurt.

Nooooooooooooooo read my case. Don't listen to pop. He's becoming soft in his old age. Pop is thinking everyone is town.

[populartajo]

Xyl, Kinetic, zwet and Firestarter should NOT be on this list.

Im thinking that Juls shouldnt be in this list also.

I'm thinking you don't want anyone lynched, hahahhaha.

LOL, you have no idea how many mislynches I have prevented.
Sometimes I get wrong, though but I have an outstanding good record.

[DrippingGoofball]

I understand this but all this behavior is also ext possible to come from a player that has no time.

No. I've seen plenty of players that are busy and post scantily. That's not what they do. They don't Kuato other players (I had to use it again ), and they express more opinions. They spend less time complaining about being persecuted.

[roflcopter]

hurt: kinetic

with mah fire blade

Dude. Get some support or stop hurting.

i seem to recall abr and juls supporting a kinetic hurt crusade. and also, bite me.

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

if you guys start healing kinetic, you're just going to drag this out. xyl, you were the one who was counting off how many mislynches we got, why are you suddenly in the business of stalling a kill? even if you believe with complete conviction that kinetic is town, which i don't really understand, you'd still be better off hurting someone you think is scum than healing k. every time you heal, you're just lengthening the game and giving scum more rage points.

and since you've mentioned previously something along the lines of how you would only heal someone who are sure is town, i'd love to see your reasons on kinetic.

if people really do start healing kinetic, i am switching to seraphim.

[DrippingGoofball]

LOL, you have no idea how many mislynches I have prevented.

That's easy to do, since the majority of players are town, especially early on. The odds are heavily stacked in your favor, even if your 'mislynch saves' are randomely chosen.

[populartajo]

I understand this but all this behavior is also ext possible to come from a player that has no time.

No. I've seen plenty of players that are busy and post scantily. That's not what they do. They don't Kuato other players (I had to use it again ), and they express more opinions. They spend less time complaining about being persecuted.

As I said, let her catch up. Im not saying she is obv town. Im only saying that there is nothing that indicates obv scum behaviour. It will become obvious if she is scum when she catches up. Trust me.
For the record, I though Shinnen was scum. Im evaluating Techi right now and would like to hear him once he comes back in Sunday(!). WLC and q21 are next on my list. Im still disliking viqles for some reason.

[Xylthixlm]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

I will unless roflcopter actually lays out a convincing case in the next 3 hours.

[roflcopter]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

I will unless roflcopter actually lays out a convincing case in the next 3 hours.

i'd prefer you lay out a convincing case for why kinetic is town, because you're suddenly switching your modus operandi in this game and its really weird.

[Xylthixlm]

if you guys start healing kinetic, you're just going to drag this out. xyl, you were the one who was counting off how many mislynches we got, why are you suddenly in the business of stalling a kill?

I'm not willing to see someone get brought down to rage range almost entirely by the actions of one person.

You

are the one playing anti-town here.

[roflcopter]

if you guys start healing kinetic, you're just going to drag this out. xyl, you were the one who was counting off how many mislynches we got, why are you suddenly in the business of stalling a kill?

I'm not willing to see someone get brought down to rage range almost entirely by the actions of one person.

You

are the one playing anti-town here.

are you discounting the fact that juls also hurt kinetic and abr called an intent to hurt on him? because this isn't a solo adventure i'm on here.

[populartajo]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

I will unless roflcopter actually lays out a convincing case in the next 3 hours.

i'd prefer you lay out a convincing case for why kinetic is town, because you're suddenly switching your modus operandi in this game and its really weird.

We shouldnt prove why someone is town. We should prove why someone is scum. Im with Xyl here.

[roflcopter]

also, xyl, you're ignoring the part where i'm asking you why kinetic is town. you can prattle on all you want about consensus lynches, but you need to tell me why i shouldn't be hurting him and not just become a roadblock, because if you do that neither of us are going to get anywhere.

[roflcopter]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Do it please.

I will unless roflcopter actually lays out a convincing case in the next 3 hours.

i'd prefer you lay out a convincing case for why kinetic is town, because you're suddenly switching your modus operandi in this game and its really weird.

We shouldnt prove why someone is town. We should prove why someone is scum. Im with Xyl here.

and you'd like to see him go back and forth with me healing and hurting instead of, oh, i don't know, doing some scumhunting?

if he's town, he can't know with enough certainty that kinetic is town to warrant throwing away his action in perpetuity, which, by the way, is what it will take to save kinetic

[Albert B. Rampage]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Negated by me

[Xylthixlm]

roflcopter, tell you what. I will not heal kinetic if you will promise that

you will not hurt anyone else until Kinetic is dead

.

I'm fine with you being a really slow vig, even if you're wrong. But you have to stick with it. And I am not going to help you.

[Xylthixlm]

Intent to Heal: Kinetic

Negated by me

Sorry, I'm not going to negate with you, scum.