Mini 747 Over.

[charter]

I'm curious as to why geraintm is agreeing with me in all these recent posts. Care to explain geraintm?

[SensFan]

I'm curious to know why SensFan voted charter over Panzer though? Sens?

And why would I vote Panzer?

Tell me why you voted charter first.

His attack on Panzer is absolutely ridiculous.

[geraintm]

I'm curious as to why geraintm is agreeing with me in all these recent posts. Care to explain geraintm?

well, i agree with you that panzer looks by far the scummiest person around
and if he felt that the argument between you and panzer was contrived, then i feel the same could be said to me (though why he didn't i don't know).

[charter]

Sens, you expected Panzer to vote for nicole before Hoopla? He hasn't really mentioned nicole in a while and has been all over Hoopla recently. You didn't find anything odd about his very quick withdrawal of his Cephrir vote?

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count Number 12:
nicoliosgotpolio- (2) - ZazieR, Panzerjager
Panzerjager - (2) - Charter, geraintm
SensFan- (1)- Erratus Apathos
Charter - (1) - SensFan

Not Voting:Cephir, Hoopla, nicoliosgotpolio, Shadow Knight

With 10 alive, 6 will lynch.

Prodding Erratus Apathos.

[Shadow Knight]

Connection seems to be holding today. Sorry for my absence. On the catchup my thoughts are as follows.

The panzer vs. charter argument did seem a little forced/prepped, but not necessarily a fight between two scum. Not sure why sens voted for charter though. Of the two, panzer seems scummier, but I have to conceed that it could just be his playstyle that is rubbing me wrong.

[SensFan]

Not sure why sens voted for charter though. Of the two, panzer seems scummier, but I have to conceed that it could just be his playstyle that is rubbing me wrong.

charter's attack on Panzer was absolute bull.

[Shadow Knight]

Please explain. In reading it, my first thoughts were that Panzer was behaving oddly. I would have been surprised if no one had called him on it.

[nicoliosgotpolio]

my first thoughts were that Panzer was behaving oddly

I've thought so the entire time, but I don't have much other than bad vibes.

[PJ.]

Since when is having an odd style of play scummy.

Geraintm definently seems like he is just latching on to whatever sounds good. He's slightly raising up my scum list.

[geraintm]

it isn't panzer

and your second sentence doesn't make sense. you are trying ot make it sound like i am jumping onto whatever badnwagon there is, but that is not the case at all, i have been quiet focussed. if anyone is jumpy, it is you

[PJ.]

Quiet focused? hmm k.

Anyway, no you have focused on my style of play, not anything i've done scummy and you have pretty much just nodded your head to whatver charter has said. You haven't actually decided I was scummy for actually doing things that are scummy.

Charter gave real reasons, you gave BS reasons and then said ya what he said. Big difference.

[Shadow Knight]

@ panzer- you are correct, odd play =/= scummy, and I'm not sure that the scum vibes I'm getting from you aren't just me reacting to your playstyle, hence me not voting you.

Just for giggles, can everyone post a list of who they would pick as the scum group with a little blurb of why they chose each person in it. Please note, I'm not looking for airtight cases, but more hoping someone caught something I missed and this might bring it to my attention.

[SensFan]

Just for giggles, can everyone post a list of who they would pick as the scum group with a little blurb of why they chose each person in it. Please note, I'm not looking for airtight cases, but more hoping someone caught something I missed and this might bring it to my attention.

Nope. Not going to happen from me, anyways, and I suggest no one else comply.

[Shadow Knight]

Any reason why not?

[charter]

I'm not either. First, you don't do one yourself, second, there's really point.

[nicoliosgotpolio]

I don't want to give any extra info to the scum, no thanks.

[SensFan]

Any reason why not?

I don't want anyone knowing who I think is Town. I'll tell you who I find scummy, but saying "I think X, Y, Z are Scum" gives a shitton of info to Scum, especially when EVERYONE does it.

[geraintm]

Not sure what to say right now, teh game has stalled. SHadow's attempt just makes him look bad.

panzer, my post 32 i think went into why i thought you were scummy. some might be countered as your playstyle, but i did pick out some things you have done that i really didn't think were something a townie would do.

[Shadow Knight]

Ok, I stand corrected, although it seems like everyone had someone they were ready to tag as scum yesterday and it wasn't considered scummy to speak up. I guess I was just looking for more of that but in an organized form. Thinking about it, yeah, I can see how giving a list as opposed to one person would give scum too much info.

SHadow's attempt just makes him look bad.

I don't know if I like the wording of this. Makes it sound like my attempt to start discussion makes me look bad, not the idea I proposed. While I can agree now that my idea would give too much info to scum, only scum would think discussion is bad, and this seems like a scum freudian slip. I could be overreacting, but between that and his "me too" posting of late, geraintm is certainly worthy of a

vote geraintm

[nicoliosgotpolio]

Vote: Shadow

[charter]

unvote, vote Shadow

We need a wagon to spice this game up.

[ZazieR]

Shadow, the problem I have with you trying to 'start' discussion is that most players have already stated who they suspect. However, you wanted to know the suspicion from other players, while not giving your own.
Not only this, but after your (re-)read, you only mentioned the Charter-Panzer discussion (in which you choose no side, which is scummy to me), but in the end, you voted Ger which included something he has done lately. You even said that yourself. But you haven't mentioned this at all during the whole game.


I have more to say about this later.

[Shadow Knight]

@ZazieR- 1- I realized that most players had already stated at some point who they suspect. I was asking for it in a more condensed, organized form for several reasons, not the least of which being that I could then see if anyone had changed their mind from their previous suspicions and why as well as being able to look for inconsistencies which would give me a better idea of who else to focus on. 2- At the time I posted the idea, I had nothing more than gut to go on, and I would have participated had someone else said anything. I wasn't going to go last, but I certainly wasn't going to go first either. 3- I mentioned the charter-panzer discussion because it struck me as odd and that was what stuck in my mind after my catch-up reading. I specifically stated that I found panzer to be the scummier of the two, and also stated why I wasn't going to vote him for it. 4- I voted Ger not just for "me too"ing his way through the game thus far, but for his freudian slip as well. I understand that some players won't post until they have an idea that no one else has said yet and other players will post even if they're just agreeing with others to show that they are reading along. Depending on the context, either (or both) have struck me as scummy in the past, but by itself, I wouldn't vote someone for it. But at this moment in time, the only piece of real evidence I have is ger's slip. Until a better case is made against someone else, I feel comfortable parking my vote there.

@charter- so you went from a reasoned vote to a vote on me "to spice things up"?

[Cephrir]

Post coming tomorrow.