War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[Juls]

No...get over yourself tajo. You don't control everything. I intend to catch up...but if you guys are going to just kill me off before I have a chance I am not going to bother.

[Seraphim]

Walt, she's admitted to being ABR's puppet. This is not pro-town in any way, shape, or form unless ABR is somehow confirmed town which he is not. He's a man with an ego who is good at bludgeoning people into following him.

[Giuseppe]

Alas, I cannot be as active as I would wish, but I have put out my opinions more so than other players in the lurker category.

I've seen Seraphim express the same intent to hurt, and Xyl has also said he agrees with my move. That said, I'll be laying down the hurt.[/b]

Hurt: Juls

Giuseppe held the feathered, white revolver in his hand, the soft metal feeling faintly warm in his hand. With a flap of his wings, Giuseppe soared upwards, readying his weapon out in front of him with both hands. Taking closer aim, Giuseppe cocked the gun, and fired a single shot. A golden ray of light came crashing down and poked a neat hole in Juls' shoulder. With a twirl of the revolver, Giuseppe holstered his gun.

[WaltWishbone]

Not really. The fact that he didn't get support right away actually swings it in his favor. When scum attack, they tend to concentrate their fire especially in a game where scum can daytalk. I don't think Xyl is scum because his insistence to lynch you is maverick-ish.

And I still want to know why Juls is "leaning town".

Because she has done nothing SCUMMY! I don't like hanging townies. There is no case on her. She made a comment that she was gonna vote with ABR (there is nothing wrong with that), she paid him a compliment for putting in so much research during the first 48 hours or so. She is no way as near as close to confirmed as someone like Nuwen or Rofl, but she hasn't done anything wrong. She wrote she would be away, we all have jobs, and other things to do. She is reading and keeping up with the game and posting where she can. I don't see Juls-scum.

[Seraphim]

I just remembered the reason that Juls is "town". It's because she attacked Xyl early game, right? That automatically makes her town, right?

[WaltWishbone]

I cant believe you guys. You are going to lynch another townie when XYL is the OBV scum. I hope Mr. Flay gets in here quick to show me flip town, so you can move onto lynching XYL.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please read him in isolation. I did not give him all those damage points. There was a wagon forming on him a few days ago. But I refused to join because I was not sure if it was just poor town play or he was scum. The events of the last few days have confirmed him scum in my opinion.

PLEASE, read him and for those who were on his wagon before. Please finish him off.

[WaltWishbone]

I just remembered the reason that Juls is "town". It's because she attacked Xyl early game, right? That automatically makes her town, right?

Did she? I dont think she was one of the ones who hurt him. I thought it was zwert and Kinetic?

Regardless, doesnt change the fact that he lynched me and was WRONG!

[Seraphim]

I'm sorry. I know Xyl's scum meta and trust me: Xyl is not scum in this game. DGB will confirm this. I will confirm this. If he was scum, he would be lurking a lot more and hurting/voting with a lot less reasoning.

Instead of yelling at us to read him in isolation, please explain why he's scum.

[The Fonz]

Ah, this is the point of the game where distinct factions form, and the town members of each get killed off by the other.

Lurkerhunt anyone?

[WaltWishbone]

I'm sorry. I know Xyl's scum meta and trust me: Xyl is not scum in this game. DGB will confirm this. I will confirm this. If he was scum, he would be lurking a lot more and hurting/voting with a lot less reasoning.

Instead of yelling at us to read him in isolation, please explain why he's scum.

I already have, you need to read or me again; rolefishing, bandwagonning, strawmanning, a big ole pile of wifom. The fact that he had the chance today to keep three seraphim (only one could be scum) and he completely ignored the town discussion and went ahead and hurt me again to put me at l1. It is not good town play, it is ecellent scum play. Is that why you support him?

[WaltWishbone]

Seraphim, you should probably start listening to ther people at this point. You say xyl is not scum, well your judgement really cant be trusted since you thought I was scum and I am town.

[The Fonz]

He didn't strawman, you really were like that.
Bandwagoning isn't scummy.
Care to point to the wifom?

[Seraphim]

And now you're saying I can't be trusted because I thought you were scum? Does that apply to everyone on your wagon?

@Fonz

Lurker hunt, please. Choose a lurker and let's go! I'm thinking Drench or Juls at this point.

[Xylthixlm]

Ah, this is the point of the game where distinct factions form, and the town members of each get killed off by the other.

Lurkerhunt anyone?

Always.

From my iPhone

[The Fonz]

Juls, whatever you think of her, isn't lurking, in the sense of 'acting so as not to attract attention.' She's like flying the flag for lurking, which ironically makes her not really a lurker.

[The Fonz]

Yep, Drenchhurting seems a good way to go.

Call hurt on Drench

[WaltWishbone]

He didn't strawman, you really were like that.
Bandwagoning isn't scummy.
Care to point to the wifom?

I have explained myself over and over. I am not going to back through and repost all my posts at this point because I have to stop posting when Mr. Flay posts my death scene. I cant put in an hour of research to make a post I will not be allowed to make. Go back and read starting about 38 hours into the game, when the wagon on him starts to build.

And now you're saying I can't be trusted because I thought you were scum? Does that apply to everyone on your wagon?

Not at all: I think Nuwen, q21, Viq (his vote was odd but his explanation of town consensus makes sense.) and probably DGb are all town.

[Seraphim]

Hurt: Drench

Lurker hunt go go go.

[Seraphim]

Then why can't I be trusted anymore than them?

[The Fonz]

Hurt: Drench

[Xylthixlm]

Firestaryer rreplaced Drench.

[WaltWishbone]

Then why can't I be trusted anymore than them?

Well now because you just hurt Drench, probably because he is a lurker? Well if you were reading the game you would know Drench has not been posting cause he needed to be replaced and Firestarter has spent all day reading the entire thread from page one. Scum dont need to do that much research they can talk via pm. Again, same thing I cant go through and pull up all your posts cause I will not be able to post anymore once Mr. Flay posts. However there was a wagon forming on you the other day and several people noticed scummy behaviour on your part. I dont remember the entire case but there were several points which I did agree with.

[The Fonz]

Fine. Does that count as an FS hurt? Or should I do it over?

[WaltWishbone]

I mean look, maybe I am wrong and xyl is not scum, but nobody can be this bad at this game. Are you really telling me, he made the right move ignoring everyone who told him I was town and continuing to ask people to hurt me until he finally got enough votes to kill me off? I did a meta on him too, and he is very experience. Maybe he did not play scum the same way in his other games, but he is a good player and wouldnt be making this kinda mistake unless he was scum.

[The Fonz]

Again, you're ignoring how actually scummy you were. Look, your case is: 'surely a good player wouldn't have tried hard to kill me?' Several people thought you were scum; several didn't. Those who were wrong on you were right on others, and those right on you will be wrong.