Pie E7- (Open 129): Game Over before 762

[zwetschenwasser]

I LIKE acting like a crazed baboon.

^this

[dejkha]

I LIKE acting like a crazed baboon.

So I assume that means you don't like helping town then, correct?

[zwetschenwasser]

Actually, no. It means that I find this game fun, and I like poking fun at people and making jokes more than sitting down and trying to act logical. But I do like to help town.

[dejkha]

Actually, no. It means that I find this game fun, and I like poking fun at people and making jokes more than sitting down and trying to act logical. But I do like to help town.

Then don't act logical. Be logical. You can have plenty of fun AIM conversations where you can poke fun at people, but when you're nearing the uselessness of Emps caliber, you can bet that you're not helping town.

[alexhans]

Also... Has anyone bothered to analize the game? It's a pretty anti-town setup...
if we mislynch day 1 there will be 4 vs 2. If they get their kill. 3 vs 2. Lylo. We can have a lylo in day 2. and we have a 5/7 of getting into that situation.

[dejkha]

That's why we have a doc and cop. Hopefully they'll make good use of their night actions before being killed.

[hewitt]

Well really the perfect scenario would involve our doc and cop NOT being killed eh dejkha?

[hasdgfas]

Also... Has anyone bothered to analize the game? It's a pretty anti-town setup...
if we mislynch day 1 there will be 4 vs 2. If they get their kill. 3 vs 2. Lylo. We can have a lylo in day 2. and we have a 5/7 of getting into that situation.

yep, old newbie setup, so we've gotta deal with that.

And also, it's not really a 5/7 chance because the chance changes as we decide who has done scummy things.

Also zwet is obvtown because he told us his scum meta is being logical, and telling us that is illogical

I also find it interesting the dejkha assumes the PRs will be killed. Why do you assume that?

[dejkha]

Because I'm scum and I know who the cop and doc are!!!!! Sorry guys, but you can't pin that one on me. Neither scum, nor town, have any idea who doc or cop is until they claim or are killed. So don't go trying to say I know who they are. I also say they would be killed because we have a 2/5 chance of one of them being killed. Hewitt, this isn't a perfect game and most aren't, so it's silly to assume the perfect scenario will play out.

I'll keep in mind how you tried to use that against me without reasoning though, Hasd. There's no way I could know who cop or doc are unless I am one. Which means, scum doesn't even know who cop or doc is. So trying to use that against me is quite the a stretch.

[hasdgfas]

Because I'm scum and I know who the cop and doc are!!!!! Sorry guys, but you can't pin that one on me. Neither scum, nor town, have any idea who doc or cop is until they claim or are killed. So don't go trying to say I know who they are. I also say they would be killed because we have a 2/5 chance of one of them being killed. Hewitt, this isn't a perfect game and most aren't, so it's silly to assume the perfect scenario will play out.

I'll keep in mind how you tried to use that against me without reasoning though, Hasd. There's no way I could know who cop or doc are unless I am one. Which means, scum doesn't even know who cop or doc is. So trying to use that against me is quite the a stretch.

wow. I wasn't actually using against you. I was genuinely curious as to how you're so sure that they'll die.

[Empking]

Unvote

Vote: Dejhkla

For spamming up the thread with not-useful and acting really defensive, mostly the last point.

[hewitt]

Isn't it a 2/7 chance of them being lynched not 2/5?

[dejkha]

wow. I wasn't actually using against you. I was genuinely curious as to how you're so sure that they'll die.

Didn't sound that way to me. When you say "I also find it interesting the dejkha assumes the PRs will be killed", that sounds like you think it's suspicious. All that was needed was the question of why I assumed it. It's all about wording and specifically the "I also find it interesting" struck me as odd and implied that I could know something I shouldn't.

Isn't it a 2/7 chance of them being lynched not 2/5?

I was referring to NKs, which is 2/5. Town would never lynch a power role. Unless the power role was Emp, because he probably wouldn't claim before he was lynched.

[hewitt]

True, but if town pushes a power role hard enough to claim that pretty much kills them. And with the level of unpredictability I'm sensing is going to be in this game someone could pull a quick hammer out of their ass on a power role who's at L-1 before they get a chance to claim.

[dejkha]

I know, but having a power role claim due to L-1 prepares us because we know who the NK will more than likely be. And we'll know who not to lynch while seeing who was pushing and how hard. And according to the role PMs, it doesn't say that the Doc can't protect the Cop, so if the Cop claims at L-1 then he could go through with his investigation if the Doc protects him. (After I typed all that, I'm not even sure if it counters what you said about town pushing a PR to lynch, but I think it's a good point anyway)

If someone pulls a quick hammer on a power role, or anyone for that matter, I'm sure they'll be lynched next. If scum were to pull a quick hammer on anyone, it would be pointless because it would be one for one. So I'd recommend town not to do that, otherwise you'll be a likely be the top suspect come the next day.

[Empking]

Isn't it a 2/7 chance of them being lynched not 2/5?

I was referring to NKs, which is 2/5. Town would never lynch a power role. Unless the power role was Emp, because he probably wouldn't claim before he was lynched.

I'm so happyu with my vote.

[dejkha]

Well, ignorance in bliss, so I'd imagine you are.

[dejkha]

EBWOP: Ignorance

is

bliss.

[hewitt]

DEJKHA.

Rules mostly stolen from hasdgfas with some changes
Behavior:
1) This is a game. Please try to act in a respectful manner towards everyone.

Come on, none of that shit in this game.

[dejkha]

There's nothing wrong with calling him ignorant since that's the case. He doesn't know who scum is (unless he is) so he's ignorant of it and that's why he's happy with his vote for who he thinks it is. Ignorance is bliss.

[hewitt]

Okay whatever just lay off the insults this game. Empking is your vote of dejkha 100% serious like you think he's really scum?

[Empking]

Okay whatever just lay off the insults this game. Empking is your vote of dejkha 100% serious like you think he's really scum?

Yes.

[dejkha]

Do you think so without a doubt in your mind? Like, are you positive?

[Empking]

Do you think so without a doubt in your mind? Like, are you positive?

No.

[dejkha]

Alright, just making sure.