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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:17 am

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dgb wrote:I'm not sure why, but it didn't look like he was about to be lopped off, so I didn't do it, but I want to reward INDEPENDENT thinkers.
what about my hurting of kinetic didn't seem independent to you?
dgb wrote:Is it so wrong to want another player completely obliterated?
in the face of another wagon thats nearly at its conclusion which you seem to have been in support of not so long ago, and with absolutely no help from other players, yes it is
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:18 am

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does that one ginormous spike on the graph coincide with a rage dump?
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:19 am

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I haven't read the first game, but I'm guessing the two HUGE spikes in that graph are the result of discussion after the scum dumped a bunch of rage on some townies.

In that game the scum rage dump was week 4... let's try to have already won by then. :)
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:21 am

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Wishbone will be dead today, I'm sure.

Out of Juls, Kinetic , Xylthixlm, and zwetschenwasser (3 damage each), I really want to keep zwet (he's using his tiny cricket brain to the fullest extent, sometimes posting word counts up to low double-digits), Kinetic (he has cojones and can stand on them), and Xyl (he's a bit off buy I've been scum with him and I don't think he's scum). I really, really want to bite Jul's head off like Ozzy on a bat. Her tunneling on Xyl for crap reasons early game, her silence on any player other than Xyl, and her slavish echo of ABR's actions is too much for me to bear.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:22 am

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xyl wrote:In that game the scum rage dump was week 4... let's try to have already won by then.
thats my plan. people listening to kinetic's beg for heals campaign would set my plan back a little bit.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:24 am

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roflcopter wrote:does that one ginormous spike on the graph coincide with a rage dump?
If memory serves that is correctly, yes.

Anyway, I didn't intend to shift the discussion all the way back to the first game, just to point out that I think rage is a real and present danger. Keeping a possible scum like Walt alive could well be the difference between the scum being able to off an Ophan on Sunday and not being about to off an Ophan on Sunday.
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:26 am

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well, there's enough active walt hurters that he should be dying today
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:27 am

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roflcopter wrote:
dgb wrote:I'm not sure why, but it didn't look like he was about to be lopped off, so I didn't do it, but I want to reward INDEPENDENT thinkers.
what about my hurting of kinetic didn't seem independent to you?
Why do you imagine that I said you weren't thinking for yourself?
dgb wrote:Is it so wrong to want another player completely obliterated?
in the face of another wagon thats nearly at its conclusion which you seem to have been in support of not so long ago, and with absolutely no help from other players, yes it is[/quote]Wishbone can die. And he will, in all likelihood, die today. I only had one hurt in the bank, and I wanted to lock in on Juls. She's scum.
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:27 am

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roflcopter wrote:
xyl wrote:In that game the scum rage dump was week 4... let's try to have already won by then.
thats my plan. people listening to kinetic's beg for heals campaign would set my plan back a little bit.
Oh, I get what you're saying.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:28 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
dgb wrote:I'm not sure why, but it didn't look like he was about to be lopped off, so I didn't do it, but I want to reward INDEPENDENT thinkers.
what about my hurting of kinetic didn't seem independent to you?
Why do you imagine that I said you weren't thinking for yourself?
because your reward of INDEPENDENT thinker kinetic is going directly against my action of hurting him
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:31 am

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roflcopter wrote:because your reward of INDEPENDENT thinker kinetic is going directly against my action of hurting him
I disagree with hurting Kinetic with ABR/Juls obvscum roaming free.
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:31 am

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so voice your disagreement. healing him would be incredibly, blatantly against the town's best interests.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:31 am

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I also disagree with hurting Xyl or zwet.
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:33 am

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roflcopter wrote:so voice your disagreement. healing him would be incredibly, blatantly against the town's best interests.
I just did.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:34 am

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yes. good. now don't heal him, or we're gonna have a serious problem, you and me
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:37 am

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Alive

# Albert B. Rampage - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Nuwen,
Kinetic
(1)

# DrippingGoofball - Hurt by: Hoopla (1) Healed by: WeyounsLastClone/Cybelle (1)
# Giuseppe - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)

# Firestarter/Drench (-1 HP) - Hurt by: Xylthixlm, Albert B. Rampage (2) Healed by: (0)

# Juls - Hurt by: Xylthixlm, zwetschenwasser, vIQleS, DrippingGoofball (4) Healed by: zwetschenwasser (1)

# Kinetic - Hurt by: roflcopter, roflcopter
x2
, Juls (4) Healed by: Hoopla,
DrippingGoofball
(1)

# Nuwen - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)
# populartajo - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Tenchi (1)
# q21 - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: populartajo (1)

# roflcopter - Hurt by: Shinnen_no_Me
x2
, Hoopla (3) Healed by: DrippingGoofball, populartajo, Hoopla (3)

# Seraphim - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: Shinnen_no_Me, populartajo (2)

# Tenchi - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# The Fonz - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)

# vIQleS - Hurt by: Kinetic, populartajo (2) Healed by: WaltWishbone (1)

# WaltWishbone - Hurt by: DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, Nuwen, Xylthixlm, WeyounsLastClone, Nuwen
x2
, zwetschenwasser, q21, Seraphim, vIQleS (11) Healed by: vIQleS (1)

# WeyounsLastClone/Cybele (-1 HP) - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: q21 (1)

# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: Juls, zwetschenwasser, WaltWishbone
x2
(4) Healed by: Juls,
Drench
(1)
# zwetschenwasser - Hurt by: q21, Seraphim, q21 (3) Healed by: (0)


Dead

# Shinnen_no_Me
- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic,
DrippingGoofball
, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm, Nuwen
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, The Fonz, roflcopter
x2
(13) Healed by: Seraphim (1)
# Hoopla
- Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, roflcopter
x2
, WaltWishbone, Albert B. Rampage, WeyounsLastClone,
Juls
, Seraphim, Juls, WaltWishbone (9) Healed by: (0)

There has been no secret damage as of post 1347.
Corrections:
populartajo's hurt on vIQleS was missed in the last count. Nuwen's hurt on WaltWishbone was updated to be x2.

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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:37 am

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roflcopter wrote:...or we're gonna have a serious problem, you and me
Is that a threat? You're sounding like ABR.
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:39 am

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I feel like Kinetic is town, but not strongly enough to heal him instead of hurting someone else.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:40 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
roflcopter wrote:...or we're gonna have a serious problem, you and me
Is that a threat? You're sounding like ABR.
for the purposes of this game, yes

in terms of how much i love you outside of this game, of course not
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:41 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:I feel like Kinetic is town, but not strongly enough to heal him instead of hurting someone else.
Yeah, that was my final decision too
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:42 am

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roflcopter wrote:for the purposes of this game, yes

in terms of how much i love you outside of this game, of course not
Haha, OK, as long as we're clear. :wink: <3
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:44 am

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Kinetic wrote: lol.

I just thought of something:

Anyone who hurts Walt at this point, including any of our other claimed Seraphim, can no longer claim to be town confirmed or believe that our claimed Seraphim, namely rofl or nuwen, are town confirmed.

By hurting Walt you consent to the possibility that Seraphim can still be scum even though we've killed one that was scum. Thus, there is no way you can use the fact that Rofl or Nuwen are Seraphim as a reason for them being town again.

And thus, any Seraphim who later claim to be Seraphim who are hiding now, if they hurt Walt after this point, they are just was well claiming there could be scum Seraphim still alive...

You must argue on the merits of their play, and not their role to confirm them at this point.
I am certainly not treating anyone as confirmed town. Especially not waffle...

Nuwen I'm not sure - I love her posts and the way she's playing, but the thing about good players is they're also good at being scum...

DGB - is the highest on my tomwie list, but only because she's confirmed ophan, and i'm working on the assumption that ophanim are probably not scum. (mainly because there's no point to a scum ophan - except as a 'safeclaim' of course...)

PS - I'm also suspicious of anyone claiming confirmed town on anyone. You know who you are...
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:44 am

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IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZERS

Hurt: WaltWishbone
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:49 am

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vIQleS wrote: (mainly because there's no point to a scum ophan - except as a 'safeclaim' of course...)
I disagree. A scum Ophan can be used to track other Ophan and determine whether it's safe for another member of the scum team to target a player with rage points.
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EDWOP: *can be used to track another Ophan.

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