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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:09 am

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populartajo wrote:Also, why are you so afraid of rage points?
Am I right when I am saying that scum only will have their first 4 max rage points tomorrow?
Scum killing could also help.
I thought it was just 1 per week per scum? Or do you mean 4 points between 4 scum?
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:10 am

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Kinetic wrote:I'm not for keeping Walt alive if the consensus is he is scum. I'm thinking of the twenty different things he could do alive that he can't do when dead that would hurt us much more than it will help us.

So what, we might kill someone a little bit faster. Does that outweigh him building up rage points, dumping them, then also throwing his own damage on the heap.

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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:11 am

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Who thinks Walt is scum besides Xyl?
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:12 am

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Nuwen wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, why are you so afraid of rage points?
Am I right when I am saying that scum only will have their first 4 max rage points tomorrow?
Scum killing could also help.
I thought it was just 1 per week per scum? Or do you mean 4 points between 4 scum?
4 points between 4 scum. This is correct, right?
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:12 am

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Also, Xyl what did you learn from Hoopla lynch other than she was town?
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:16 am

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populartajo wrote:Also, Xyl what did you learn from Hoopla lynch other than she was town?
That the people on the Hoopla lynch were wrong.

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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:17 am

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populartajo wrote:
Nuwen wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, why are you so afraid of rage points?
Am I right when I am saying that scum only will have their first 4 max rage points tomorrow?
Scum killing could also help.
I thought it was just 1 per week per scum? Or do you mean 4 points between 4 scum?
4 points between 4 scum. This is correct, right?
I think there are more than 4 scum in this setup. There were 3 scum to 9 town in the mini, making 5 scum to 15 town most likely in a large. What gave you the impression that 4 was the sweetspot?

And why did you use the word "max" in your sentence?
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:17 am

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populartajo wrote:Who thinks Walt is scum besides Xyl?
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:21 am

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Nuwen wrote:
populartajo wrote:
Nuwen wrote:
populartajo wrote:Also, why are you so afraid of rage points?
Am I right when I am saying that scum only will have their first 4 max rage points tomorrow?
Scum killing could also help.
I thought it was just 1 per week per scum? Or do you mean 4 points between 4 scum?
4 points between 4 scum. This is correct, right?
I think there are more than 4 scum in this setup. There were 3 scum to 9 town in the mini, making 5 scum to 15 town most likely in a large. What gave you the impression that 4 was the sweetspot?

And why did you use the word "max" in your sentence?
I assume 5 maximum scum in this setup. Since one is already dead, 4 max is the logical choice.
Kay, if there is consensus then I dont have anything else to say other than the case on Walt is weak and that there has to be a way to optimize him regardless of alingment.
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:29 am

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I had a retarded number moment there, sorry.

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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:34 am

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populartajo wrote:Kay, if there is consensus then I dont have anything else to say other than the case on Walt is weak and that there has to be a way to optimize him regardless of alignment.
I was looking at Juls' posts and she was tunneling on Xyl pretty hard until she signed her freedom over to ABR.

Looks like she's trying to narrow her linkage to other players. And of course, there's my theory that ABR has been terrorizing her in the QT.
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:35 am

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I thought you wanted Walt to die DGB. Why are you attacking other players?
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:40 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I thought you wanted Walt to die DGB. Why are you attacking other players?
I succumbed to reptilian instincts that overrode the signals from my frontal cortex.

Whassamatta, ABR, protecting your little slave now?
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:58 am

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populartajo wrote:Everybody hurting Walt, do you still think he is scum?
I'm personally surprised there are so many seraphim, but I still think he needs to die. If he comes up town then its doesn't change much for nuwen and rofl, they were only ever partially confirmed anyway - they'll be slightly less confirmed, but really, meh.

If Walt comes up scum, even if he's lying about being seraphim and is only actually erelim, it still pretty much 100% confirms nuwen and rofl.

Also, not to be a fear monger or anything, but my memory of the first game tells me that the people voicing the idea that scum have no rage yet are probably wrong. So I went and checked it out. That game started on a Thursday, but the scum still got rage every Sunday including, so far as I know, the first. This means we're quite likely to be within a few days of the scum getting their second rage point each.

I don't like the way poptajo hasn't picked up on this since he was in that game too.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:00 am

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100%confirmed does not exist.
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:01 am

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Viqles, what q21 is saying is true?
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:04 am

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Flay wrote:FYI, here's how the activity level went for this game - you can see the spike when scum started using their Rage Points (marked in red at the bottom every time they accrued).
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According to this graphic, q21 is apparently right.
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:05 am

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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:10 am

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Kinetic wrote:100%confirmed does not exist.
I know that, but if Walt is scum rofl and nuwen would as close to it as possible.
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:11 am

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ebwop: I know that, but if Walt is scum rofl and nuwen would as close to it as is possible.


...reads better, from a puerly stylistic standpoint, that way.
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:12 am

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I don't see a correlation. There's like, 16 peaks, so that chances are great that a spike will occur right at, or after RP's.

Eyeballing, only 2 of the seven points are clearly associated with a spike. Three seem associate with a decline, and the rest are ambiguous.

There doesn't even seem to be a weekend vs. weekday correlation.

All it shows is that potajo really cares about this game and finding scum in it. That makes him town. From now on I will be poptartajo's puppet/slave.

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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:12 am

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kinetic begging for heals is mega epic scummy and the fact that dgb wanted to acquiesce, and is now playing the "i'm too mad at juls to think" card, has me really put off
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:15 am

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Firestarter replaces Drench effective immediately.
THIRD DAMAGE TALLY OF THE FOURTEENTH ÆON
Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, Seraphim, and WeyounsLastClone are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, roflcopter, Tenchi, and The Fonz are all at normal HP.
vIQleS has 1 damage.
Drench
Firestarter has 2 damage, and a lowered HP maximum as a result of replacement.
Juls, Kinetic , Xylthixlm, and zwetschenwasser have 3 damage each.
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Nuwen's damage was corrected on the last count.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:16 am

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roflcopter wrote:kinetic begging for heals is mega epic scummy
I'm not sure why, but it didn't look like he was about to be lopped off, so I didn't do it, but I want to reward INDEPENDENT thinkers.
roflcopter wrote: ...is now playing the "i'm too mad at juls to think" card, has me really put off
Is it so wrong to want another player completely obliterated?
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:16 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't see a correlation. There's like, 16 peaks, so that chances are great that a spike will occur right at, or after RP's.

Eyeballing, only 2 of the seven points are clearly associated with a spike. Three seem associate with a decline, and the rest are ambiguous.

There doesn't even seem to be a weekend vs. weekday correlation.

All it shows is that potajo really cares about this game and finding scum in it. That makes him town. From now on I will be poptartajo's puppet/slave.

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The thing on that graph to be looking at are the little red dots at the bottom that indicate the scum getting rage points. They happen each and every Sunday.
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