War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:53 pm

WaltWishbone wrote:I have no doubt anymore Xyl is scum [...] With townies like him who needs to worry about scum?

Hey look, WaltWishbone knows I'm a townie. And scum. At the same time.

vIQleS · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:31 pm

Hmm - I thought I posted but it doesn't seem to have gone through.

hurt:walt

. Lets get that out of the way, and then we can kill juls or X.

Kinetic · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:21 pm

I'm going to ask for this:

If players think I am town of equal weight as Julz, Rofl, or Albert think I am scum, or if you feel more likely that Julz, Rofl, or Albert is scum and I am town, please Heal me.

We do need to use this heal mechanism and we cannot be afraid to use it. Yes, it may increase the time for lynches, but it will also stop scummy players from taking over the game.

The only way we're going to force a consensus with players who are being so aggressive they won't listen to reason is when people who wish to harm someone outnumber the players who wish to heal someone.

Nuwen · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:54 pm

Kinetic wrote: If players think I am town of equal weight as Julz, Rofl, or Albert think I am scum, or if you feel more likely that Julz, Rofl, or Albert is scum and I am town, please Heal me.

Stop trying to widen the schism between town players and slow down the game. No heals if you have a supported wagon on you. This idea is diametrically opposed to the idea of consensus hurting, which you tried to appear supportive of in 1163.

Kinetic · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:58 pm

Supported?

Three players are pushing for it.

More than 3 players have called me town or claim very highly that they think I'm town.

If more players think I'm town than think I'm scum, they should have a say. The current rules give them no recourse.

Right now 3 players, any three players, can kill someone with no recourse.

Interestingly, that seems like a great way to let scum win.

Kinetic · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:59 pm

And I should add, one of those three players is merely a puppet. 2 players are supporting my lynch.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:19 am

Juls wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Kinetic wrote:Yet, on the FIRST lynch, You, Fonz, Rofl, and ABR danced and claimed responsibly for killing Shinnen like it was all you guys.
No.

Call intent to hurt Kinetic
I will take this as my charge.

Hurt: Kinetic

I thought the theme was angels, not BDSM roleplay.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:19 am

heal: Kinetic

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:21 am

Actually, my heal won't count until 9:42. I'll do it again then.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:21 am

I want to strangle Juls. Is that normal?

Kinetic · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:22 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:I want to strangle Juls. Is that normal?

At this point, and considering its you, I'd say its par for the course.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:24 am

How come Juls has no damage????????????????????????????????

Seriously.

That's an outrage.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:26 am

Kinetic wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:I want to strangle Juls. Is that normal?
At this point, and considering its you, I'd say its par for the course.

Yes, but doctor, it's much worse. Like Wile E. Coyote wants to do with the Road Runner, I don't want to kill her for food, I want to blow her up into unrecognizable subatomic particles.

Kinetic · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:27 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Kinetic wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:I want to strangle Juls. Is that normal?
At this point, and considering its you, I'd say its par for the course.
Yes, but doctor, it's much worse. Like Wile E. Coyote wants to do with the Road Runner, I don't want to kill her for food, I want to blow her up into unrecognizable subatomic particles.

lol. DGB why have you not won funniest player award?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:33 am

Not this year

Kinetic · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:37 am

How about this DGB, I think you can get behind it:

Intent to hurt puppets

Kinetic · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:44 am

vIQleS wrote:Hmm - I thought I posted but it doesn't seem to have gone through.

hurt:walt
. Lets get that out of the way, and then we can kill juls or X.

lol.

I just thought of something:

Anyone who hurts Walt at this point, including any of our other claimed Seraphim, can no longer claim to be town confirmed or believe that our claimed Seraphim, namely rofl or nuwen, are town confirmed.

By hurting Walt you consent to the possibility that Seraphim can still be scum even though we've killed one that was scum. Thus, there is no way you can use the fact that Rofl or Nuwen are Seraphim as a reason for them being town again.

And thus, any Seraphim who later claim to be Seraphim who are hiding now, if they hurt Walt after this point, they are just was well claiming there could be scum Seraphim still alive...

You must argue on the merits of their play, and not their role to confirm them at this point.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:49 am

Wishbone pretty much 'fessed scum to Xyl, though.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:37 am

I'm torn between hurting Wishbone, healing Kinetic, and setting the phazers on 'kill' for Juls.

Nuwen · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:02 am

Wishbone's claim complicates my setup predictions. 2 town Seraphim: 2 scum Seraphim makes quite a bit of sense - if Walt flips scum and his Seraph claim is correct, I wouldn't be surprised. The mini mainted a 1:1 ratio. However, if he does flip town, I'm split between going after Rofl or just proceeding down the laundry list of scummy players (Juls next). The mini's setup used 2 town Ophanim and zero scum, so it's plausible that there's uneven role distribution between the two alignments (3 town to 1 scum Seraphim).

From a scum perspective, it doesn't make sense for Walt to push confirmed town status for Rolf as me, unless he's partners with one of us (Rofl, from my vantage). However, I really doubt the existence of 3 scum Seraphim to 1 town Seraph.

Either way, I don't know if the Seraph role can still be used as town confirmation.

I don't endorse healing of any kind until we figure out what to do with Walt and we move from the killing phase back into the post-kill discussion phase.

Kinetic · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:25 am

Nuwen wrote:Wishbone's claim complicates my setup predictions. 2 town Seraphim: 2 scum Seraphim makes quite a bit of sense - if Walt flips scum and his Seraph claim is correct, I wouldn't be surprised. The mini mainted a 1:1 ratio. However, if he does flip town, I'm split between going after Rofl or just proceeding down the laundry list of scummy players (Juls next). The mini's setup used 2 town Ophanim and zero scum, so it's plausible that there's uneven role distribution between the two alignments (3 town to 1 scum Seraphim).

From a scum perspective, it doesn't make sense for Walt to push confirmed town status for Rolf as me, unless he's partners with one of us (Rofl, from my vantage). However, I really doubt the existence of 3 scum Seraphim to 1 town Seraph.

Either way, I don't know if the Seraph role can still be used as town confirmation.

I don't endorse healing of any kind until we figure out what to do with Walt and we move from the killing phase back into the post-kill discussion phase.

The reason I'm suggesting it is because some players (ABR, Julz, Rofl) have skipped the "finish off phase" and have gone directly to begin killing me.

The fact that Walt's flip doesn't even matter to them after they pushed him so far is very very, well annoying for one, and scummy for another.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:27 am

I can't hold it in anymore.

disembowel: Juls
steal boyfriend: Juls
draw and quarter: Juls
waterboard: Juls
taser: Juls
move in with scam artist: Juls
put hand in toaster: Juls
smallpox: Juls
administer cyanide: Juls
supercollide: Juls
orca eat: Juls
triumph against in drinking game: Juls
burn at stake: Juls
vampire attack: Juls
send to Chinese jail: Juls
voodoo doll: Juls
woodchipper: Juls
date zwet: Juls
forge checks: Juls
varnish: Juls
catscratch: Juls
leave to rot: Juls
beat at chess: Juls
fall into volcano: Juls

And now for the anticlimactic conclusion:

hurt: Juls

Kinetic · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:28 am

Anyway, set-up distribution predictions are pretty null imo. If I were making this set-up I'd make a set number of roles (maybe 4 Sera, 10 Cherub, 3 Orpham, and 3 elim), and then randomly choose 5 to be the scum roles.

Nuwen · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:30 am

By the way, I don't think my hurt did the double damage it should have. Flay sent me a PM last night requesting clarification of my flavor text, but I was passed the fuck out and couldn't respond until this morning. I don't know if he'll correct the damage. Henceforth, I'll try not to describe my blade of awesome in Latin.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:30 am

Kinetic wrote:The reason I'm suggesting it is because some players (ABR, Julz, Rofl) have skipped the "finish off phase" and have gone directly to begin killing me.

I'm sorry I let you down with that heal, but the urge to

hurl vomit with lots of corn kernels: Juls

overwhelmed me completely.

I'll reconsider in 24 hours...