War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[Kinetic]

There is the DGB we all know and love. I knew you couldn't last a day without yellign that everyone on a lynch was bussing.

[Mr. Flay]

The sounds of battle echo and roll across the heavens. Blades, fists, arrows and the deadly squeak of a hammer clash and shift, and a scuffle swirls around the indistinct form of Shinnen_no_Me. roflcopter's final thrust pierces her to the core; with a scream that rapidly climbs the scale toward infinity, she falls to the ground. A smoking hole opens beneath her and claims her with a flash of red and a rushing roar of wind.

Shinnen_no_Me,

Fallen Seraph

, has been cast out of Heaven.

FIRST DAMAGE TALLY OF THE THIRTEENTH ÆON

Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, Seraphim, vIQleS, and WeyounsLastClone are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

Drench, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, Juls, Kinetic, Tenchi, and The Fonz are all at normal HP.

Xylthixlm has 1 damage.
roflcopter and zwetschenwasser have 2 damage each.
WaltWishbone has 3 damage.
Hoopla has 4 damage.

[populartajo]

WOOT.

Heal : rolf.

This really puts viqles and some I need to reevaluate in a very bad position and confirms many players.

[DrippingGoofball]

There is the DGB we all know and love. I knew you couldn't last a day without yelling that everyone on a lynch was bussing.

This is Day 1. When have bus'ing scumbags not dominated the Day 1 agenda?

[DrippingGoofball]

WOOT.

Heal : rolf.

This really puts viqles.

I suspect ViqlEs is probably OK.

ABR gets NO town cred from me for tossing Shinnen under the Greyhound from the "Biggest Loser World Tour."

[Kinetic]

WOOT.

Heal : rolf.

This really puts viqles and some I need to reevaluate in a very bad position and confirms many players.

I don't think it confirms anyone honestly, and I don't think we should start thinking otherwise just yet.

Albert and Fonz started the lynch, I felt I was the tipping point before people started piling on, and Rofl/Numen are both claimed Seraphim. That is all well and good, but there could very well be a second Seraphim scum (high likelihood? Probably not), but I'm not going to completely discount that chance.

Albert hurt another player in between his hurts on Shinnen (Could be a distancing hurt).

There is a good lot of information though, and that I'm glad about. I think its time to sift through it and find what sticks out.

All the better, I'm trusting my instincts and my read on Viq. I think he's scum. I plan on reading Hoopla and Wishbone, since they seem to be the other targets, but at this point I only support the Viq hurting. I'll look at the others when I get the chance. (Some time tomorrow most likely. Tests today have my primary attention)

There is the DGB we all know and love. I knew you couldn't last a day without yelling that everyone on a lynch was bussing.

This is Day 1. When have bus'ing scumbags not dominated the Day 1 agenda?

I've been in more games where Day 1 was a townie forced mislynch then I care to mention. I'll take a scum down any day, especially a Seraphim. That could have been a hectic character in mid-late game (12 HP + 33% more damage per cooldown, no thanks). However if the scum do have two Seraphim, sacrificing one to give the other ones either "confirmation" or at the least the ability to blend in wouldn't be a bad strategy imho.

[populartajo]

Oh, we can all play the same game of grouping people under groups without good bases (in your case, with no bases at all):

Scumgroup: rofl, tajo, xyl, abr.

I find it funny that you (rofl) say that Seraphim doesn't give reasons for saying which players he want dead/find scummy, yet you do the same thing. Hypocrite. I don't like people who point out things in other players, while they are doing the same under lame excuses.

I could bet all my money that there is no scum in that list.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scumgroup: rofl, tajo, xyl, abr.

I could bet all my money that there is no scum in that list.

Funny, I would bet ABR is the scum. There's no way Shinnen didn't bother with distancing.

[populartajo]

Scumgroup: rofl, tajo, xyl, abr.

I could bet all my money that there is no scum in that list.

Funny, I would bet ABR is the scum. There's no way Shinnen didn't bother with distancing.

Considering how fast Shinnen become pressured it can be a possibility but I really dont think she bussed anyone in that list. It was totally unnecessary.
Goofball you are better than this. Time to reread the game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Considering how fast Shinnen become pressured it can be a possibility...

You read my mind.

[Xylthixlm]

Shinnen was actually scum? Awesome. Not needing a full majority seems to be working to the town's advantage here.

WaltWishbone: So you think Shinnen_no_Me is town? Why?

I never wrote I was sure she was town, I wrote I am not willing to hurt her beacuse, I am not reading (with the same conviction she is scum) you and other players seem to have in her guillt. Number two, I am not willing to scarifice what could be one of our power roles, a Seraphim (which she is) this early in the game!

Notice the wishiwashiness of this answer. It fits what I would expect of scum who is worried about being linked to a buddy if he answers wrong.

[Seraphim]

Actually, after rereading, I think Walt is more likely to be scum than Hoopla, with the post Xyl quoted above me especially since Shinnen flipped scum. I've been reading worse and worse vibes from him...it's been a slow scummy slope.

These quotes are all from WaltWishbone:

And I don't think rofl would be in such a hurry to eliminate Shinnen if he was Seraph scum. So, if Nuwen is town, it might be a good lynch after all.

Note that this post is made not that long before Shinnen's death was confirmed. Last minute attempt to gain town cred.

...and I do absolutely agree with you, that we don't know what the set-up is and should be careful. I disagree with sacrificing our seraphim (which we probably have at least 2, maybe 3) to get their seraph (if they only have one).

I think to treat a Seraphim the same as Cherub (which you have done in your math) is another mistake.

This smells like Walt getting ready to defend Shinnen before it was even confirmed that she was a Seraph.

This, and other posts, just scream scum to me. Defending Shinnen by saying that we need to keep our Seraphs alive...and now that Shinnen flipped scum, I think Walt needs to be our next target.

[DrippingGoofball]

Scum team:

Shinnen
WaltWishbone
ABR
Hoopla

You heard it here first. I'm looking forward to that standing ovation at end game.

[DrippingGoofball]

I forgot Juls. Juls is scum.

Thank you, my adoring crowd!

[populartajo]

Actually, considering how early scummy and how inevitable was Shinnen lynch I think the majority of scum (2-3 mafiosi) bussed her (intensity depends of the meta of the player). The rest (1-2) prob had a neutral stance on her.

[Seraphim]

WaltWishbone refused to take a stance on Shinnen which is a scumtell. The only worse thing would have been to start healing her.

[DrippingGoofball]

Actually, considering how early scummy and how inevitable was Shinnen lynch I think the majority of scum (2-3 mafiosi) bussed her (intensity depends of the meta of the player). The rest (1-2,

namely, WaltWishbone

) prob had a neutral stance on her.

fixed.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh yes, and taking into consideration the meta of the player, ABR is another slam dung scumbag.

[Seraphim]

Simul-posting to point out the same fact FTW.

[populartajo]

I would take viqles into account too.
There is secret damage in the last tally? This could confirm if Shinnen used rage points and how many before her death.

[The Fonz]

What I don’t like about ABR is

that he presents himself in a somewhat commanding tone. He gives directions to people. But he doesn’t necessarily follow that direction, and takes on a different direction himself. He also uses special text with his ‘hurt’, which is something that I absolutely don’t trust.

his personality.

Edited for clarity.

Shinnen_no_Me,

Fallen Seraph

, has been cast out of Heaven.

With carnage erupting all around him, the spirit of the Fonz nonetheless takes a couple of minutes out from his busy schedule of killing fallen angels to perform his legendary 'I told you so' dance.

WOOT.

Heal : rolf.

This really puts viqles.

I suspect ViqlEs is probably OK.

ABR gets NO town cred from me for tossing Shinnen under the Greyhound from the "Biggest Loser World Tour."

If ABR doesn't back me up there, there's no Shinnen wagon.

That is all well and good, but there could very well be a second Seraphim scum (high likelihood? Probably not), but I'm not going to completely discount that chance.

We definitely can't rule it out- I wouldn't be that surprised if there were, say, three town and two scum seraphim. But a dead scum with a particular role at least makes it

less likely

any other given player holding that role is scum.

I need to see if anyone else uninjured strikes me as a serious lynch candidate. I presently doubt it. WWB is my favourite target of the injured at the moment, though i need to reread Hoopla, because i can't at the moment recall for the life of me why there's a wagon there.

Also @WLC: Bitch all you want. We were 25 pages in, and you hadn't posted yet. That's serious lurking. You made excuses in RP mafia, too.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What happened between twenty minutes ago and now to remove Xyl and ViQles from your list?

His nose twitched.

He's totally his town self.

I read ABR like a book. I have a total town read on him. I'm willing to stake my reputation on it.

I need support to kill vIQleS within the hour.

Who's with me?

*raised hand*

Intent to hurt: DGB

Her recent attacks against me are nothing but late OMGUS.

[The Fonz]

I absolutely do not support any DGB hurting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

She has been derailing the Shinnen wagon since the beginning, from taking a turn to hurt Walt, to saying she rather heal rofl than hurt Shinnen, to never actually hurting Shinnen.

Obvious scum there.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Check it out:

DGB, thoughts on Shinnen_no_Me?

He sounds like he hates the world. His face is red, steam shoots out of his ears, and he's popping veins in his forehead.

Juls should be on the list, too.

Why WaltWishbone? I didn't even know he existed. I should check it out.