War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:27 pm

Actually, maybe they have secret damage by now. I don't care though, I'm pretty much willing to lynch DGB because this whole exchange between Kinetic and DGB looks like it was set up by scum.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:28 pm

As soon as Shinnen dies I'm moving on to DGB provided that there's an extra hurt that was unaccounted for.

Juls · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:18 pm

ABR...you seem more townie than anyone to me so since the game is moving at such a fast pace and I work/go to school, for the time being, I am your puppet. I can't filter all this crap right now. Tell me who to hurt and I will hurt them.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:22 pm

Yay!

Hurt Shinnen!

Juls · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:25 pm

Hurt Shinnen

Tenchi · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:28 pm

I cant really post anything useful right now. Browsing the thread there has been a lot of people campaigning against other people and I can't make a dedicated decision right now (aside from what I've said early in this game).

I'll catch up next week. (Sunday)

Mr. Flay · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:35 pm

FIFTH DAMAGE TALLY OF THE TWELFTH Ã†ON

Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, Seraphim, vIQleS, and WeyounsLastClone are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.

Drench, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, Juls, Kinetic, Tenchi, and The Fonz are all at normal HP.

Xylthixlm has 1 damage.
roflcopter and zwetschenwasser have 2 damage each.
Hoopla and WaltWishbone have 3 damage each.
Shinnen_no_Me has 6 damage.

Kinetic · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:35 pm

Mod, can I please get a tally on damage

Kinetic · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:35 pm

Kinetic wrote:
Mod, can I please get a tally on damage

ROFL

I have to stop doing that...

Kinetic · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 pm

Ok, nothing looks amiss.

Hurt Shinnen

- Too soon. Flay

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:38 pm

Yup, DGB's hurt didn't count, as suspected.

Kinetic · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:43 pm

populartajo wrote:So, Rolf and Shinnen are proven Seraphs?
Ok, this has happened before. If there is another Seraph in the game its time to claim now, since THERE HAS to be a Scum Seraph.

Hurt : Shinnen.
Too soon. Flay
If nobody else claims and Shinnen comes up town (which I doubt but still possible) rolf has to be the next one to go.

DrippingGoofball wrote:I'd rather heal copter, but here you go.

Hurt: Shinnen

Flay, will you always make a note as such when someone's hurt or heal fails due you inability because of role (due to internal cooldowns)?

Mr. Flay · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:47 pm

Kinetic wrote:Flay, will you always make a note as such when someone's hurt or heal fails due you inability because of role (due to internal cooldowns)?

Only when it's public information (see your post above). I'm not in the business of confirming/refuting private actions.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:54 pm

Hurt: Shinnen_no_Me

Shinnen_no_Me is surrounded by a crowd of angels, stabbing and slashing. Xylthixlm shrugs and tosses his Golden Hammer in a gentle underhand lob. It goes wide to the left, then suddenly curves midair to hit Shinnen_no_Me in the back of the head. SQUEAK!

Xylthixlm · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:59 pm

# Albert B. Rampage - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Nuwen,

Kinetic

(1)
# Drench - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# DrippingGoofball - Hurt by: Hoopla (1) Healed by: WeyounsLastClone/Cybelle (1)
# Giuseppe - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)

# Hoopla - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, roflcopter

x2

(3) Healed by: (0)

# Juls - Hurt by: Xylthixlm (1) Healed by: zwetschenwasser (1)
# Kinetic - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: Hoopla (1)
# Nuwen - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)
# populartajo - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Tenchi (1)
# q21 - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: populartajo (1)

# roflcopter - Hurt by: Shinnen_no_Me

x2

, Hoopla (3) Healed by: DrippingGoofball (1)

# Seraphim - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: Shinnen_no_Me, populartajo (2)

# Shinnen_no_Me - Hurt by: Albert B. Rampage, The Fonz, Kinetic,

DrippingGoofball

, Albert B. Rampage, Seraphim, q21, Juls, Xylthixlm (8) Healed by: Seraphim (1)

# Tenchi - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# The Fonz - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# vIQleS - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: WaltWishbone (1)

# WaltWishbone - Hurt by: DrippingGoofball, Xylthixlm, Nuwen, Xylthixlm (4) Healed by: vIQleS (1)

# WeyounsLastClone/Cybele (-1 HP) - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: q21 (1)

# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: Juls, zwetschenwasser (2) Healed by: Juls,

Drench

(1)
# zwetschenwasser - Hurt by: q21, Seraphim (2) Healed by: (0)

There has been no secret damage as of post 606.

WaltWishbone · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:01 pm

I went back and reread the first ten pages, as well as Hoopla, Shinnen, and Zwert in isolation. I think Shinnen has questionable responses to several points which were raised however I would hesitate at this point at joining this wagon, especially given her roleclaim. If she flips town, it would be unfortunate to lose one of our Seraphim so early in the game. I have the same problem with voting for Zwert considering his recent revelation, although I am not sure I buy it. I think it was a mistake to start claiming roles so early as the fallen Angels are sure to go after our power roles first. I don't like the fact that Xyl is role fishing, however I want to be clear I have not voted to hurt him because I am not sure if he is scum or just anti town (we are in complete disagreement on strategy). I really need to see more posts from him as I am not clear on his alignment.

In my opinion the case against Hoopla is much stronger than any others at this point, especially given her contradictions. I missed the fact she hurt DGb in her opening post and that makes no sense to me what so ever. Further compounded by writing the exact opposite in a later post. I know she explained her reasons behind this contradiction, however I am not conviced.

Hurt: Hoopla

I am looking forward to hearing more from Drench, Techni, and WLC, as well as wondering when Giusseppe will make a post?

@xyl - You wanted something more tangible you could hold me too. In addition to what I wrote above, this is what I think so far. Kinetic, ABR, Tajo give me nothing but townie vibes. I have doubts on Nuwen, Seraphim, and to a lesser extent the Fonz. I really want to hear from thoese absent players, but those are the best reads I have at this point in the game.

Kinetic · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:06 pm

Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yup, DGB's hurt didn't count, as suspected.

One of (DGB, Albert, Julz, q21, Seraphim)'s hurts didn't count.

Maybe... I was just thinking of something... what if Rage points could be used to Heal as well as Hurt???

Could someone be trying to frame someone?

Either way, because you hurt Shinnen, as well as three others, and flay doesn't specifically say which one doesn't work if it was a private action than any one of you could be it.

Ironically, the one person besides DGB that I suspect is you Albert. You've been mighty jumpy these last couple pages... could this be a gambit of your own?

I'd like DGB to claim whether she could have hurt or not, but I'd also like to know if this wasn't a game of shells you're trying to play here Albert...

PreviewEdit: Why is Xyl taking it as absolutely correct that Albert is right... There is no way Albert could know if he was right and the fact is Xyl, since he is cataloging all the hurts, should know that as well...

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:09 pm

Kinetic, I want you to read post 616 one more time. Tell me why it doesn't make sense.

Kinetic · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:12 pm

Bleh, I thought I smelled something, but I should have read DGB and the roles a little more closely. This is what I get for skimming more than I should...

Kinetic · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:28 pm

My cooldown should be up

hurt shinnen

- Still too soon; wait until :06. Flay

Xylthixlm · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:29 pm

Walt: I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone say they need to see

more

posts from me.

Kinetic: I need to make some reasonable assumptions about what's going on, or my counts will be full of disclaimers. I will generally assume that no funny business is going on unless the official damage count says otherwise. It's always possible that two lies/secret effects cancelled each other out. I'll add a disclaimer to the next count.

DGB: So, is there a reason you aren't going berserk with accusations of bussing?

Kinetic · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:35 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:Walt: I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone say they need to see
more
posts from me.

Kinetic: I need to make some reasonable assumptions about what's going on, or my counts will be full of disclaimers. I will generally assume that no funny business is going on unless the official damage count says otherwise. It's always possible that two lies/secret effects cancelled each other out. I'll add a disclaimer to the next count.

DGB: So, is there a reason you aren't going berserk with accusations of bussing?

No, what I meant was that you crossed DGB's name off the damage count when I thought there was no proof that DGB's was definitely the one that didn't count...

It looks like I was wrong on that.

WaltWishbone · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:35 pm

Xylthixlm wrote:Walt: I think that's the first time I've ever seen someone say they need to see
more
posts from me.

lol, well, yeah I didn't mean more posts per say. I meant something more tangible that could be considered scummy.

Giuseppe · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:23 pm

Holy shit... 25 pages?

I'm back, but I haven't had a chance to read anything yet. Jet lag is horrible... I'll try to read everything over tomorrow.

Emphasis on 'try'.

roflcopter · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:10 pm

ugh. i should not have fired my wad in this game at a pm hour that i don't like to be awake for in the am. 36 hours is a pain in my ass.

i'll be getting up nice and early for you folks tomorrow to fire off another shot, i hope y'all appreciate it.