War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

[zwetschenwasser]

That doesn't help much.

[DrippingGoofball]

Exactly. Also, instead of providing a GOOD explanation for his actions, Xyl is giving us numbers that ALL OF US ALREADY KNOW.

I don't make those calculations, so they're usuful to me.

[zwetschenwasser]

Response from a normal person, please?

[Nuwen]

Response from a normal person, please?

I hadn't laid out those calculations either. Being aware of our mislynch buffer is good. Sometimes DGB is lucid.

[zwetschenwasser]

Sigh.

[Shinnen_no_Me]

@Kinetic, care to explain why you think I'm scum? Or it's just pure unbased gut?

The problem with the players that are lurking is that this is a fast paced game, and that most of it has been during a weekend, when some people tend to not be online. So, I wouldn't call them lurkers yet. They need to post more, but I don't think they fall into the lurker category just now. Maybe in a couple of days, but not now.

I also don't like Xyl's eagerness to hurt so fast. Chances are that you're only going to spread the damage among town, making things easier for scum. A deadline is fine, but just hurting like that without some control is just going to help scum.

[Mr. Flay]

WeyounsLastClone replaces Cybele; this lowers that angel's maximum HP by 1.

THIRD DAMAGE TALLY OF THE TWELFTH ÆON

Albert B. Rampage, Nuwen, populartajo, q21, roflcopter, vIQleS, WeyounsLastClone, and Xylthixlm are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.
Drench, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, Hoopla, Juls, Kinetic, Seraphim, Shinnen_no_Me, Tenchi, The Fonz, and zwetschenwasser are all at normal HP.
WaltWishbone has 1 damage.

[roflcopter]

no kinetic i'm not playing like this for reactions i'm playing like this because it wins games for town

seraphim, just hurry up and omgus hurt me already, you don't need to bandy around with the intent to hurt crap to try and get support. i can almost guarantee you'll be dead before me anyway if you want to try and get into a hurt off.

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl, can you give me some insight into Seraphim's playstyle?

Bog standard. I think I've only played on a scumteam with him once, but he had a serious case of "information instead of analysis" that game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is it my imagination, or are we playing this game too slowly for our own good?

[Xylthixlm]

speaking of organize, i'm organizing a brute squad, and inducting the following obviously town people into it immediately: abr, xyl, dgb, and tajo (if he'll accept). we should all agree on one person and put them down. over and over, until we've killed all the scum.

I think I like this idea more now. Our first target is WaltWishbone. Once he's dead, someone else picks the next target.

[Xylthixlm]

Xyl, can you give me some insight into Seraphim's playstyle?

Bog standard. I think I've only played on a scumteam with him once, but he had a serious case of "information instead of analysis" that game.

After actually reading his first few posts, I'm pretty sure Seraphim is town this game.

[Seraphim]

seraphim, just hurry up and omgus hurt me already, you don't need to bandy around with the intent to hurt crap to try and get support. i can almost guarantee you'll be dead before me anyway if you want to try and get into a hurt off.

Soft-claim?

And no, I won't hurt you because I'm not convinced you're scum yet. I'm merely saying that if you continue this stupid play of tunneling me and not hunting scum, I will start hurting you. And I, unlike you, will have a detailed, thought-out case before I start hurting people.

[roflcopter]

xyl, seraphim first, then i'll help you with walt wishbone

the threat of a detailed, thought-out omgus looms over my head

[populartajo]

OMG WLC!!! Welcome to the game, dude!

Updated scumlist

Town
Seprahim
ABR
q21
Cybele
Nuwen

Neutral
Walt
rolf
Xyl
Kinetic
Fonz
zwet
Juls
Drench
Giusepee
Hoopla

Scum
DGB
Tenchi
viqles
Shinne

Walt is at least neutral. I dont see the case on him nor the necessity to hurt him to death like Xyl is proposing.
I would like more from viqles and Shinnen. Tenchi is a bad feeling. DGB is scum, btw.

[populartajo]

xyl, seraphim first, then i'll help you with walt wishbone

the threat of a detailed, thought-out omgus looms over my head

YOU ARE NOT READING THE THREAD, RABBIT.

[populartajo]

Heal Seraphim

[populartajo]

Fixed Intent to hurt count.
10 to massive hurting

Rolf 5 (Hoopla, Tenchi, Shinen, Nuwen, Seraphim)
Xyl 4 (viqles, zwet, Drench, Juls)
Shinnen 3 (Fonz, Tajo, ABR)
Kinetic. 3(Shinnen, Cybele, rolf)
ABR 3 (Hoopla, q21, Shinen)
Viqles 2 (Kinetic, Nuwen)
Walwishbone 2 (Xyl, DGB)
WLC 1 (Kinetic)
Seraphim 1 (rolf)
Hoopla 1(Tenchi)

Not voting 3 (Giuseppe, The Fonz,WaltWishbone)

Lurker count 1 (Giuseppe)

[Xylthixlm]

xyl, seraphim first, then i'll help you with walt wishbone

Seraphim is town.

[Xylthixlm]

Walt is at least neutral. I dont see the case on him nor the necessity to hurt him to death like Xyl is proposing.

Someone needs to die first. Walt is not obvtown. What's the problem?

[populartajo]

Walt is at least neutral. I dont see the case on him nor the necessity to hurt him to death like Xyl is proposing.

Someone needs to die first. Walt is not obvtown. What's the problem?

I dont see the case on him.
Id go with someone more obvious like viq or Shinnen. Maybe DGB.

[Xylthixlm]

Okay. We don't have the luxury of taking as long as we would in a normal game here.

EVERYONE MUST CLAIM WHO THEY WANT TO DIE FIRST IN THEIR NEXT POST.

[Xylthixlm]

I want WaltWishbone to die first.

[roflcopter]

you said that his first two posts made him town, but i'm not seeing it.

his first post is an excuse for not saying anything about xyl's alignment, then agreeing with the common consensus that everyone should be healed up, then asking for a mutual heal. there is nothing in there that actually

said

anything. then his next post is just healing shinnen.

um, what? i thought you just said that when you were scum with him all he did was iioa. well, there's your iioa right there.

he follows up with "rofl's crazy attacking is noted" which is code for "i'm not gonna take a stance on it now but if it becomes popular i now have my foot in the door to be suspicious of rofl"

next post, he supports abr's call for a kill on viq, remarks that the game moves fast, and says viq is the scummiest so far.

without saying why

. yet i'm the one who's getting bitched at for not giving enough support for my attacks? does anyone see yet why the whole viq pseudo wagon is a load of horse shit?

i absolutely love his following post. "vote viq. i don't think xyl is scum. too many people are following shin's non participatory example, but we should lynch the scummy people first then worry about lurkers." lets see... seraphim himself hasn't actually participated worth a damn up to this point, but he's bitching about people not participating? and he still hasn't said why he wants viq dead, nor does he give a good reason for why xyl is town, but i'm still the one people are getting up in arms about not giving reasons with what i do. thats great. really.

next, seraphim asks xyl whether juls and walt are lurkers, and says we should sort out the regular lurkers from the scummy lurkers. i'm not really sure what that is even supposed to

mean

, but seraphim has done nothing this game except buddy up to xyl.

"at least i'm committing to a kill." i'll let you geniuses figure out for yourselves why this is scummy.

"tajo, could we have one of those fake votecount things?" - iioa

stupid questions for abr that also serve to defend shinnen, and an unexplained unvote. i especially love the "for now" part, because he's still leaving himself open to the possibility of returning to his still unexplained viq vote. note also that the bullshit about scummy lurkers vs regular lurkers all also served to defend shinnen

the bit about how xyl, dgb and i have attacked different players is more iioa bullshit

his intent to hurt me comes with the call for me to stop making threats and start hunting scum. already found one buddy.

and then the shining jewel in the pile of garbage that are his votes, he fishes for my role with the simple question of "soft-claim?"

seriously. quit the bullshit, xyl, turn off your i've-been-buddied-up-to blinders and get with the program.

and tajo, you are scum. grats on fooling people by burying us under a mountain of angry rhetoric, but all you're doing is stalling, stalling, stalling. don't heal someone who's been intentionally hurt again or i will kill you first.

[roflcopter]

scumgroup: seraphim, tajo, shinnen, dgb

probably not scum: xyl

definitely not scum: abr, viq