War in Heaven II - Spirit of Vengeance (Over!)

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:59 am

I'll support a Xyl lynch if we kill vIQleS first.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:22 am

Juls wrote:Waiting for someone to get on board with a Xyl hurt please. I believe my recharge is complete.

Nope.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:24 am

Juls wrote:A plan was proposed to heal. Most people were exchanging heals. I made the mistake of choosing you to be the person I healed. I expected a heal back. That is not eager.

So, you only healed me because you expected a heal back?

Juls · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:31 am

No...twisting words...more scumpoints. I wanted everyone healed to +1.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:32 am

I need support to kill vIQleS within the hour.

Who's with me?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:40 am

Juls wrote:No...twisting words...more scumpoints. I wanted everyone healed to +1.

And as we now have learned, there's no such thing as +1 and we all wasted our heals.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:41 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I need support to kill vIQleS within the hour.

Who's with me?

*raised hand*

Seraphim · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:45 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I need support to kill vIQleS within the hour.

Who's with me?

I support this.

Holy shit, this game moves fast. But vIQleS sticks out as the scummiest player so far in the game.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:46 am

+1 exists.

I don't recharge for 6 hours. What's the case against viq?

From my iPhone

q21 · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:48 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:I need support to kill vIQleS within the hour.

Who's with me?

For what? One loaded question?

Albert B. Rampage wrote:By now Kin, you must realize that the grand majority of my case against you constitutes of trying to stall the game and not being able to come to a swift decision. You have but to support me in killing this vIQleS player whom you also suspect, and you tear the whole case down, providing you also act in a coherent manner afterwards. I await your response.

Really don't like this. Its scummy and manipulative.

Juls · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:48 am

Mr. Flay wrote:Clarification: Actions which have no effect (healing someone who is already at their maximum, hurting the dead) will
waste
your action. In the Marathon Day game I was lenient because of the timeframe.

FIRST DAMAGE TALLY OF THE TWELFTH Ã†ONAlbert B. Rampage, Cybele, Nuwen, Seraphim, Shinnen_no_Me, populartajo, q21, roflcopter, WaltWishbone, and Xylthixlm are at 1 HP above their normal maximum.
Drench, DrippingGoofball, Giuseppe, Hoopla, Juls, Tenchi, The Fonz, vIQleS, zwetschenwasser are all at normal HP.
Kinetic is down 1 HP.

DGB see this. +1 IS the maximum! Healing someone to +2 is wasted.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:10 am

q21 wrote:Really don't like this. Its scummy and manipulative.

That's my M.O.

Check out Friends and Enemies

where I prevented a mason getting killed night 1, and got two scum lynched up until my own unfortunate demise. All this by outing my own mason partner and threatening the town to reveal the third if they didn't lynch who I wanted (scum).

Or Final Fantasy Mafia,

where I fake-counter-claimed a daycop fakeclaim by a vanilla townie. I successfully got this townie lynched before he could get another vanilla townie lynched, and then get himself lynched because the person he claimed was scum, was in fact town. I went on to kill the real scum day 2.

Or again, in Fire Emblem Mafia

, where I manipulated a player that had the ability to give a 1-shot vig into giving it to me, because I wanted the scum to kill me that night so I could activate my ability as a death motivator. I also got 2 of the scum this way (by figuring out how the scum would react to my pulling of the strings).

Point being,

I play a complicated game

. Mafia is a game of manipulation after all.

Hoopla · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:37 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote: That's my M.O.

Check out Friends and Enemies
where I prevented a mason getting killed night 1, and got two scum lynched up until my own unfortunate demise. All this by outing my own mason partner and threatening the town to reveal the third if they didn't lynch who I wanted (scum).

Or Final Fantasy Mafia,
where I fake-counter-claimed a daycop fakeclaim by a vanilla townie. I successfully got this townie lynched before he could get another vanilla townie lynched, and then get himself lynched because the person he claimed was scum, was in fact town. I went on to kill the real scum day 2.

Or again, in Fire Emblem Mafia
, where I manipulated a player that had the ability to give a 1-shot vig into giving it to me, because I wanted the scum to kill me that night so I could activate my ability as a death motivator. I also got 2 of the scum this way (by figuring out how the scum would react to my pulling of the strings).

Point being,
I play a complicated game
. Mafia is a game of manipulation after all.

Where are the games where these gambits have backfired? The point being, if you're capable of such manipulation and desire to run the game yourself

as town

- when you have the same information as us, what are you capable of doing as scum? You seem to think that people should blindly trust you because you have higher plans, when the reality is, playing an unnecessarily complicated games will just cast doubt in the town's mind.

You don't need to lie, or have second agendas as town. You're just muddying the water, which although you may think is genius because it gets reactions and reads or whatever - but trying to run the game

on D1

when you're nowhere even close to having pure intentions is ridiculously anti-town.

Unvote, Vote: ABR

- The town would be better off without you, sorry.

Can you link me to your last few scum games as well?

vIQleS · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:42 am

Just so it's on record - my picks for scum at this point are Xyl, DGB, and albert.

That probably seems a bit OMGUS, but the fact that they're focussing on me instead of someone who's really scummy is really scummy.

DrippingGoofball wrote:Clearly you're not understanding what I'm saying AT ALL, but none of my assessments are based on the speed with which conclusions are reached.

Seems to me you haven't actually said anything at all yet - all I remember from you (again no time to check sorry) is "xyz is scum".

Kinetic wrote:
Flay wrote:...name. You may store them up, to a maximum of 3. If you are killed/cast out, you lose any remaining points.

Thank you. Carry on.

q21 · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:52 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
q21 wrote:Really don't like this. Its scummy and manipulative.
That's my M.O.

Check out Friends and Enemies
where I prevented a mason getting killed night 1, and got two scum lynched up until my own unfortunate demise. All this by outing my own mason partner and threatening the town to reveal the third if they didn't lynch who I wanted (scum).

Or Final Fantasy Mafia,
where I fake-counter-claimed a daycop fakeclaim by a vanilla townie. I successfully got this townie lynched before he could get another vanilla townie lynched, and then get himself lynched because the person he claimed was scum, was in fact town. I went on to kill the real scum day 2.

Or again, in Fire Emblem Mafia
, where I manipulated a player that had the ability to give a 1-shot vig into giving it to me, because I wanted the scum to kill me that night so I could activate my ability as a death motivator. I also got 2 of the scum this way (by figuring out how the scum would react to my pulling of the strings).

Point being,
I play a complicated game
. Mafia is a game of manipulation after all.

Mafia is a game of discussion. Its only a game of manipulation if you're scum. How many times have you been successfully manipulative as scum? How many times have you been unsuccessfully manipulative as town?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:02 am

vIQleS wrote:Just so it's on record - my picks for scum at this point are Xyl, DGB, and albert.

That probably seems a bit OMGUS, but the fact that they're focussing on me instead of someone who's really scummy is really scummy.

I've only mentioned you once.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:12 am

Hoopla wrote:
Where are the games where these gambits have backfired? The point being, if you're capable of such manipulation and desire to run the game yourself
as town
- when you have the same information as us, what are you capable of doing as scum? You seem to think that people should blindly trust you because you have higher plans, when the reality is, playing an unnecessarily complicated games will just cast doubt in the town's mind.

You don't need to lie, or have second agendas as town. You're just muddying the water, which although you may think is genius because it gets reactions and reads or whatever - but trying to run the game
on D1
when you're nowhere even close to having pure intentions is ridiculously anti-town.

Unvote, Vote: ABR
- The town would be better off without you, sorry.

Can you link me to your last few scum games as well?

If Kinetic shows himself to be a fast thinker and capable of moving things, then I have no reason to hurt him. Its really simple and you are awfully reaching.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:15 am

q21 wrote:Mafia is a game of discussion. Its only a game of manipulation if you're scum. How many times have you been successfully manipulative as scum? How many times have you been unsuccessfully manipulative as town?

You play your game, I play mine. Unless you can show how my actions are bad for the town in

this

game, you have nothing on me.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:18 am

# Albert B. Rampage - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Nuwen,

Kinetic

(1)
# Cybele - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: q21 (1)
# Drench - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# DrippingGoofball - Hurt by: Hoopla (1) Healed by: Cybelle (1)
# Giuseppe - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# Hoopla - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# Juls - Hurt by: Xylthixlm (1) Healed by: zwetschenwasser (1)
# Kinetic - Hurt by: roflcopter (1) Healed by: (0)
# Nuwen - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Albert B. Rampage (1)
# populartajo - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Tenchi (1)
# q21 - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: populartajo (1)
# roflcopter - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: DrippingGoofball (1)
# Seraphim - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Shinnen_no_Me (1)
# Shinnen_no_Me - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Seraphim (1)
# Tenchi - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# The Fonz - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# vIQleS - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)
# WaltWishbone - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: vIQleS (1)
# Xylthixlm - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: Juls,

Drench

(1)
# zwetschenwasser - Hurt by: (0) Healed by: (0)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:22 am

The following players have not yet used hurt/heal: Guisepppe (V/LA), The Fonz, WaltWishbone.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:23 am

AS PER THE FONZ STIPULATION, EVERYONE SHOULD VOICE THEIR INTENT TO KILL ONE OF THESE THREE PLAYERS:

Shinnen_no_Me / Xylthixlm / vIQleS

Since they were the only ones to be nominated, its time to destroy one of these three players.

q21 · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:31 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
q21 wrote:Mafia is a game of discussion. Its only a game of manipulation if you're scum. How many times have you been successfully manipulative as scum? How many times have you been unsuccessfully manipulative as town?
You play your game, I play mine. Unless you can show how my actions are bad for the town in
this
game, you have nothing on me.

Wait, so previous games are relevant only if they favour you?

In this game? Well, trying to force someone else to do your will by holding a case over their head certainly isn't good for anyone.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:32 am

q21 wrote:Mafia is a game of discussion. Its only a game of manipulation if you're scum. How many times have you been successfully manipulative as scum? How many times have you been unsuccessfully manipulative as town?

Mafia is a game of killing people. Discussion is only useful as a way of knowing who to kill first.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:33 am

They are relevant to show you the extreme things that I have done.

Its very simple.

If I think a player is a liability because he can't do something, and then he does it, it proves to me that he is no longer a liability. What's so scummy about that q21?

q21 · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:35 am

Albert B. Rampage wrote:
AS PER THE FONZ STIPULATION, EVERYONE SHOULD VOICE THEIR INTENT TO KILL ONE OF THESE THREE PLAYERS:

Shinnen_no_Me / Xylthixlm / vIQleS

Since they were the only ones to be nominated, its time to destroy one of these three players.

Also, I don't particularly think that any of these deserve to die, why are you limiting the towns targets?