Open 120 - Rebels in the Palace - Game Over! before 756

[zwetschenwasser]

Why are you freaking out? He's at L-2, not L-1.

[TonyMontana]

Hey, it worked! I got him to make an appeal to emotion.

Unvote; Vote: TonyMontana

This last post clinches it.

Do not kid yourselves people, zwet is obvScum.

Why are you freaking out? He's at L-2, not L-1.

Exhibit A: Pretends he doesn't know what the count is. (

I'm at L-1

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[ortolan]

I seriously mean it about not hammering. 99% sure TM and zwet are both town at this point. I do not want to have to convince a bunch of people to lynch the king when we're already in LYOL.

[sekinj]

Vote Count 13

(# of votes against) Voted Player - by Voter(s)

(4) TonyMontana - by Corvuus, Empking, Qanqan, zwetschenwasser

(0) Corvuus
(1) Empking - by veerus
(0) veerus
(0) ortolan
(1) Qanqan - by ortolan
(0) Trumpet of Doom
(2) zwetschenwasser - by TonyMontana and Trumpet of Doom

Five (5) votes to Lynch.

Mod Notes:
- Deadline has been set for 3/25/09 @ 12:00 PM CST

[TonyMontana]

I seriously mean it about not hammering. 99% sure TM and zwet are both town at this point.

Really? Cause I'd be willing to offer up a trade at this point.

[TonyMontana]

(2) zwetschenwasser - by TonyMontana and Trumpet of Doom

Where did my vote go?

I don't know what you are talking about

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[zwetschenwasser]

Why the heck are you sure that we are both town? Also, the L-1 pressure is good to encourage discussion. I didn't know we were at L-1, but I'm keeping my vote.

[ortolan]

Where are Corvuus and Qanqan? I know it's the weekend and all but still...

[zwetschenwasser]

We have three days till deadline.

[ortolan]

I will finish the game for us tomorrow. Until then waiting for answers.

[zwetschenwasser]

You're sure he's king? He could be a guard, you know. How are you so confident in this?

[ortolan]

TonyMontana isn't the king, I am talking of someone else.

[zwetschenwasser]

Huh? Then why do you want to lynch him so badly? How do you know he's not the king?

[ortolan]

I never expressed any desire to lynch TonyMontana. Quite the opposite.

[zwetschenwasser]

Wait... so qangan is the king?

[ortolan]

nup

[zwetschenwasser]

*facepalm* WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME

[ortolan]

Corvuus is the king, Qanqan is a guard.

I'll tell you why tomorrow though I've got to go to bed.

[zwetschenwasser]

Ahh... That makes sense.

[Qanqan]

Um you just told me to read my own post. Thanks for that. Let's hope you actually had some, any legitimate reason for accusing me of dodging your questions and it wasn't just more mud-slinging, but I'm having my doubts at this point.

Gee Ort, you would hate to get too hyper... I meant 351

If you acknowledge your reason is subjective then that's simply poor justification for voting him.

Well sure, everyones scumdar is going to be subjective, otherwise everyone would always come to the same comclusion. You're voting me right now, but others aren't, which would make your reason for voting me subjective too, no?

Sorry I don't even understand this passage.

I pointed out some of your logical fallicies in my other posts. If you want to see my justification, go read them.

[Qanqan]

Corvuus is the king, Qanqan is a guard.

And you are the tooth fairy, and Zwet is a unicorn.

[Corvuus]

hey,

really busy at the moment so I won't be able to post that much. (notice in all my games effective now).

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I'm ok with a TM and then Oro lynch.

Oro, do I even need to bother to respond to your post when it is full of hypocrite and failure?

You are using your buddying to me to say I am scum? When obviously, it is you as scum trying to buddy to me, failing and now trying to build a case on me but you won't even say it until TOMORROW? Heck, you claim I'm king, so if you have evidence, then say it and try to get me lynched right? But you aren't voting me and the fact that you won't (or can't) say anything is just more evidence that you are full of BS when I did ask for what you 'see' or 'think' you see.

The fact that you say I'm 'withholding' information and it is scummy is hilarious when you say I am king, give no reason (you say you will say it tomorrow?) and that is blatantly worse 'witholding information' and even worse scummy.

What do you see with me? What do you see with Q?


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I told you my plan and heck I even hinted/said it BEFORE you said or did anything.

So to say "haha, Corv got 'caught' and is backtracking about players buddying comments to him, blah blah, didn't say anything about buddying because he didn't notice/see it/care" is quite false. Maybe you should try rereading my post instead of interpreting whatever you want to make yourself look 'less scummy' (since right now you look really scummy) since my comments/plan (pre-your 'suspicion' post) prove your view point false.

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you say "I am mocking your suggestion that scum have found a way to confirm themselves without letting us know".

Well, gee, this is quite hilarious. I didn't say that they confirm themselves completely without us knowing. I said it could be something we may not see or recognize or it could be really obvious and stupid and we wouldn't think of it.

And hey, look at that, you defending/buddying with TM, and then buddying and trying to lynch me? Well, I can mock you as being a stupid/obvious scum if that is what you like.

I will also mock your suggestion since you have "hinted" that you can somehow show that Q is a guard and that I am a king (I'm not the king, and I have no idea what you are looking at for Q) and that would prove your statement false since the hypotheticals of what you 'can say' are all quite dumb.

You will say I am king, and that everyone who voted me as most townie is a guard? LOL, let's lynch you first to find out how stupid that is.

Or wait, somehow I'm king and then I confirm Q as being a guard (for what reason?) and then instead of hiding behind a 'cloak' of townliness (if I am king), I decide to make a plan and get reactions/response and be extremist to get reactions out of those who 'claimed' me as most townie'. I'd love to hear what Trumpet has to think about any theory you will 'reluctantly' spew out 'tomorrow' instead of today.

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You call me defensive? LOL. You are the one who is defensive since you "refuse to post" your case on me (as a king no less!) until tomorrow?

I'm aggressive/offensive because there is no NK possibility and since I'm town, 3 players saying they view me as townie means I can be extremist without getting lynched. but hey, you are the one who is 'backtracking' and claiming that you 'did this all for a reason' and 'acted scummy', buddied me, etc. and that you did this on 'purpose' and that you see I am king now but you refuse to say why?

First: How is Q blatantly buddying to me?

Is it because he has a case/wants to lynch TM? Or is it because I am undecided about him ('neutral'). Why not post your 'phantom case' now?

I could go on and on but it all amounts to "put up or shut up" and you need to back up why you call me the king.

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As for TM/Zwet, it is COMPLETELY different, but hey, it isn't like you are working logically anyways.

TM's reasons for Zwet is not my reasons and the way he did it appears to be shifting suspicion from himself, etc. etc.

My reason for Zwet is him calling me a guard/king/scum and not saying anything substantial either way.

and hey, look at that, you said I'm a king/guard/scum as well, so I'm perfectly fine with lynching you since you haven't said 'why' or anything else and this would be a quite 'stupid' game since the possibilities you present to me of your alignment are:

1. TM is king, you are guard. TM acts scummy, you act scummier in order to get lynched instead of him, or heck, you also want to try to see if you can get someone other than your king/buddies lynched.

2. You are guard and Zwet is King, TM with you? or maybe not. You don't know about TM for sure, but thought he was and trying to make a play? TM is trying to fight the 'good' fight in confirming Zwet before he dies and you laid the groundwork by saying "Zwet is 99% town".

3. you are guard, someone else is king (TM would be rebel in this case) and you are trying to setup mislynches of TM and myself with your flip; or conversely use TM's flip somehow to get another rebel mislynched.

4. you are rebel. You just happen to be scummy, buddy up to a player by action, attempt buddy by words, and then lie, bs, and refuse to make a case/vote in lylo (when you claim you know the king and that the player at L-1 is 99% town to you!).

Ironically, I think possibility #4 the least likely of all.

Corvuus
p.s. it has occurred to me that when you say 'tomorrow' you could mean 'tomorrow' in Real Life day, but the fact is, I asked you for your case/view before and you still haven't made it for several days or say what you "see". So my point of you being scummy for withholding stands.

[TonyMontana]

I'm ok with a TM and then Oro lynch.

I bet you are
If I were to have a say in the matter, I'd rather trade Oro with Zwet, and I wouldn't want to be the first to go.

Is it because

he has a case/wants to lynch TM

? Or is it because I am undecided about him ('neutral'). Why not post your 'phantom case' now?

I like how you put a slash there, because I have not seen a case, but I see 4 people who were quick to put me on L-1.
So please, how bout you offer up a case on the one you are holding to the fire. ¬¬

2 days until deadline. Veerus and ortolan, how bout you good folk join the zwet wagon, and let's see who has the balls to jump ship.

[TonyMontana]

I'm ok with a TM and then Oro lynch.

I'd also like to add that you don't seem interested in how I flip.
I'll flip rebel, in case you were wondering. But you don't care anyway, cause you seem to wanna go after ortolan for buddying, no matter how I flip.
If you wanna lynch ort no matter today's result, shouldn't you be trying to lynch him first then?

[zwetschenwasser]

The fact that people are hesitating up to the deadline date to hammer suggests that Tony is the king.