Mini 740 - Communiqu├® Mafia 2: Game Over and the Winner is..

[Juls]

You have to send your communique to someone for it to take effect essentially removing your ability to do a communique at night?

[roffman]

I don't have a night communique. I have a specific message i may send to activate my ability. Otherwise, i do nothing at night.

[Budja]

@roffman, first you said all their ability's are deflected to you, then you say messages.

I think it's getting to claim time. I'm a shielder. I target someone and all actions that target them target me instead.

The flavor is that i send them a message to activate it, then all their messages are sent to me.

Clarify please.

I am not really liking the claim.In a no-reveal closed game, I think scum would probably claim a power role and, as Juls says, it doesn't really fit the flavour. I am not unvoting.

@don, hohum is the closest thing to a confirmed townie that we have got unless roffman attempted to pull off a scum gambit. His attitude is not great but that is irrelevant to whether he is scum IMO.

hohum is partnered with roffman. scumhohum sent the communique to town roffman.

partnered? Anyway this looks very unlikely to me.

at this point i would ask that we actively dismantle the Roffman wagon and lynch hohum. his behavior is fucking ridiculous. and i am pretty sure that ridiculous isn't happy about it.

Why? Abandon a lynch of someone I believe is scum for what appears to be a policy lynch. Build a better case and I'll listen.

I am really not liking your current behaviour don. Why are you being so defensive, directly and indirectly, of roffman?

[don_johnson]

not really defending roffman, but i am willing to entertain other possibiities. we have no clarification on whether or not someone had two commuiques. scum could simply have lied.

to juls and budja: i am saying, nor did i say, that i think hohum/roffman to be scumbuddies. i stated that that could be one of the possibilities to explain the "rogue communique". i am not voting roffman because hohum is being an ass, and because if i were to have been voting roffman that would have ended the day and i was unsatisfied with today's proceedings. roffmans claim sounds like bullshit.

budja: if you are town and you had information you could paste into the thread, and your honesty as to whether or not this information existed came into question, and there was no danger to you for posting said information, would you not post it?

seriously, hohum posts pbpa, don is satisfied.

also, hohum is extremely far from being a "confirmed" townie.

[Budja]

not really defending roffman, but i am willing to entertain other possibiities. we have no clarification on whether or not someone had two commuiques. scum could simply have lied.

It is just that you appear to be going out of your way to find other possibilities.

also, hohum is extremely far from being a "confirmed" townie.

He isn't confirmed but I'd say he is more likely to be town than anyone else except Juls.

to juls and budja: i am saying, nor did i say, that i think hohum/roffman to be scumbuddies. i stated that that could be one of the possibilities to explain the "rogue communique".

i am not voting roffman because hohum is being an ass

, and because if i were to have been voting roffman that would have ended the day and i was unsatisfied with today's proceedings. roffmans claim sounds like bullshit.

Don't think like that, a bad attitude does not equal scumminess.

Also, if you also believe roffman to be scum as you seem to be implying, then why didn't you vote him over hohum. As a supporter of no-lynch, I would have thought you would prefer to go for the obv scum.

budja: if you are town and you had information you could paste into the thread, and your honesty as to whether or not this information existed came into question, and there was no danger to you for posting said information, would you not post it?

Confusing question , I am guessing you are referring to hohum's analysis. I don't care if hohum has written it or not yet, that is irrelevent IMO. I would say there is no harm in posting it now.

[Casey]

I must be missing something here. How in the world could Roffman's claim be a pro-town role? We have a postwoman and a guy who can steal packages and communiques?

Roffman sounds more like a thief than a "shielder." I could be wrong, but right now I have no qualms with a Roffman lynch.

[don_johnson]

Confusing question , I am guessing you are referring to hohum's analysis. I don't care if hohum has written it or not yet, that is irrelevent IMO. I would say there is no harm in posting it now.

so you have no interest to find out whether or not hohum was lieing?

you seem to be mischaracterizing my argument here. hohum has a clear and easy path to give himself some credibility. yet he chooses not to comply. you are okay with this behavior? i.e. you don't mind if hohum is lieing? you condone untruths? you condone deceit? you will allow unsubstantiated claims? etc.

how(at the time) was roffman any scummier than someone refusing to produce evidence they say they have in their possession which would absolve them from the charge of lieing?

currently, i agree with casey on roffman's roleclaim. sounds scummy. let it be noted that i think the rest of you are foolish for allowing hohum to skate on this one. at this point in time the charge is moot as hohum has had plenty of time to produce his pbpa and even if he produces it we have no way of proving that he lied. way to go town.

[Juls]

don, don't be dramatic...it weakens any points you may have made. I don't think we give a pass to hohum completely but I do feel that of the three scenarios we have in front of us: 1) roffman lied, 2) someone has two communiques and 3) hohum really is scum...I believe that 1 or 2 are more likely.

Vote Roffman

I think enough discussion has been had on the topic. I still don't see anything that makes me believe this to be true.

[don_johnson]

whatever.

[Budja]

@don, hohum has already posted an attack on Ecto, its not like he hasn't been scumhunting. To withhold his pbpa until the replacement arrives is no big deal. I don't see the great importance around it anyway.

don, don't be dramatic...it weakens any points you may have made. I don't think we give a pass to hohum completely but I do feel that of the three scenarios we have in front of us: 1) roffman lied, 2) someone has two communiques and 3) hohum really is scum...I believe that 1 or 2 are more likely.

Vote Roffman

I think enough discussion has been had on the topic. I still don't see anything that makes me believe this to be true.

QFT

[don_johnson]

@don, hohum has already posted an attack on Ecto, its not like he hasn't been scumhunting. To withhold his pbpa until the replacement arrives is no big deal. I don't see the great importance around it anyway.

sure. whether or not players are honest is no big deal in the game of mafia.

vote: roffman

is that better?

[dahill1]

Vote Count

6 - roffman: (Braeden, Budja, Cybele, hohum, Casey, Juls, don_johnson)
1 - don_johnson: (hohum)
1 - No Lynch: (roffman)

4 - Not Voting: (BSG, Flameaxe, Skitzer, Ectomancer)

12 alive means 7 to lynch

Scene pending

[dahill1]

The town decides to lynch roffman.

He was...

what? You actually thought I'd tell you?

Night will be exactly 72 hours, so please send in choices by then.

As a pre-caution, night won't end until I find a replacement for Ecto

[dahill1]

Searching for Braeden replacements

[dahill1]

Rhinox replaces Ectomancer!! Thank you Rhinox!
Night is being extended to Monday until further notice.
Still searching for Braeden replacement and will also send out prods either tonight or tomorrow to those who haven't posted in the thread in over 3 days (from when night started).

[dahill1]

I have been receiving some PMs regarding if the game is still going on. The answer is yes it is, but night cannot end until all replacements have been found, in this case for Braeden.

[dahill1]

Good news! PhilyEc replaces Braeden! Hooray!
I'm setting a tentative end-of-night deadline for Sunday right now, pending if Phily needs more time to read or not.

[dahill1]

Everyone wakes up to find a dead body lying in the middle of town.

You search the wallet and find out that it is none other than.....BSG!
Unfortunately, everything but his picture is mysteriously scratched out so you can't make out the alignment..

6 - BSG (rep. houseofcards): Killed Night 1

Day 2 go!

[Juls]

What's this game about again? Hello everybody! Welcome Rhinox (I owe you one!). Welcome PhilyEc too!

[don_johnson]

hey Juls, this game is about finding the scum. how was your night?



for those of you paying attention, i apologize for the timing of the hammer. i didn't realize we were at L-1. any ideas? personally i think Hohum should be next.

[Juls]

Interesting. I hope no one has any plans on some stupid schemes to burn day communique's because I plan on using mine today to further my information. I would also like someone to use their communique to follow up on information that was sent to me in a communique in the night. They should know who they are.

Did anyone receive an extra communique for today?
Would the person who I sent my package to identify themselves in thread? And please send me a communique to let me know the information they received?

[PhilyEc]

(Haha! Ireland for the win~!)

Thanks Juls, I've read up on some of the game earlier but forgotten most of it after waiting for the next Day to begin. Are we doing anything particular with communiqués? I remember Casey bringing up that chain of senders, using passwords.

[hohum]

Vote: don_johnson

For his incredibly jackassy behavior yesterday. I don't have time to get into more details at the moment. I will though, TODAY (as in calendar day), along with everything else I've been promising.

[don_johnson]

Vote: don_johnson

For his incredibly jackassy behavior yesterday

. I don't have time to get into more details at the moment. I will though, TODAY (as in calendar day), along with everything else I've been promising.

well, seeing as you've had plenty of time to work on that pbpa i don't doubt you trying to look town today.

as for the bolded: have seen the pot, kettle?

[hohum]

^^
obvscum.