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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:02 pm

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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:14 pm

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sekinj wrote:nice
And what does that mean?
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:30 pm

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springlullaby wrote:Lol what?

Ok. Let's do this slowly. I can actually see if you are doc, why you would have voted Budja instead of counter-claiming me since he claimed scum.

But if you are doc, what made you change your mind about you stopping the kill?
I'm not sure I understand this at all. Re-phrase?
Spring wrote:
Sekinj wrote:nice

And what does that mean?
I could take a guess :roll:
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:34 pm

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Jebus wrote:
springlullaby wrote:Lol what?

Ok. Let's do this slowly. I can actually see if you are doc, why you would have voted Budja instead of counter-claiming me since he claimed scum.

But if you are doc, what made you change your mind about you stopping the kill?
I'm not sure I understand this at all. Re-phrase?
You say that you are doc and thought me town because you protected me. What in meantime made you change your mind?
Spring wrote:
Sekinj wrote:nice

And what does that mean?
I could take a guess :roll:
Which would be?
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:56 pm

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"nice" as in "nice, you've just screwed youself over"

Though I'm not sure who it's referring to :/
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:00 pm

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Spring wrote:You say that you are doc and thought me town because you protected me. What in meantime made you change your mind?
A whim, actually. This, and the fact that I'd screwed up as a townie pretty badly, I thought :/

Also, your tone is telling me that you're publicly showing you're not the doctor. Is this accurate?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:05 pm

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Ok I'm confused now with two doc claims in the air. Especially with the fact that Jebus protected Spring and there was NO nightkill today. And I'd figure that scum would target Spring if she was town. I saw absolutely no reason for a (scum) Spring to counter another (scum) Budja and still don't see this as a viable strategy. The third claim by Jebus only muddies things up further for I see no reason for Jebus to counter either.

If either of you is town and fake claiming admit to it now because I see no reason to believe that both of you can possibly be town.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:06 pm

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Jebus wrote:
Spring wrote:You say that you are doc and thought me town because you protected me. What in meantime made you change your mind?
A whim, actually. This, and the fact that I'd screwed up as a townie pretty badly, I thought :/

Also, your tone is telling me that you're publicly showing you're not the doctor. Is this accurate?
No it is not, I am doc. I'm simply gauging you and the possibility of there being 2 doc and 1 watcher.

Please explain what in my tone is indicative of not being doctor.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:11 pm

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springlullaby wrote:
Jebus wrote:
Spring wrote:You say that you are doc and thought me town because you protected me. What in meantime made you change your mind?
A whim, actually. This, and the fact that I'd screwed up as a townie pretty badly, I thought :/

Also, your tone is telling me that you're publicly showing you're not the doctor. Is this accurate?
No it is not, I am doc. I'm simply gauging you and the possibility of there being 2 doc and 1 watcher.
I don't see a strong possibility of two doctors. Has anybody even seen a game with two doctors?
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:08 pm

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It was just a "nice" as in "now I don't know what to think"
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:09 pm

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what if there are 2 docs, 1 watcher, a serial killer and a 2 man mafia team. AND the sk just happened to pick Spoilum....
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:23 pm

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Jebus wrote:No comment to sekinj's response, it was exactly what I expected.
What did you mean by this? I am asking now, because before I just thought you were scum, but now I am considering your claim.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:23 pm

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maybe we shoudl just mass claim
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:28 pm

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Lynx wrote:FHQ, I'd like to know for sure what your stance is on Red. Is he scummy or not to you? Is he in your top suspects still after Don's watcher claim?
I still find Red a bit scummy, but the watcher claim has put these suspicious somewhat on the backburner. I mean, the results doesn't exonerate him, but I'd feel he could be kept around a bit longer.
Spring wrote:It is an easy thing to vote for an extension if people are so willing, you guys are so fucking lazy.
Hahaha. I'm just going to laugh at this statement.

The whole Spring/sekinj discussion is exhausting. I'm only in the middle of reading it, but my advice to sekinj is to drop it. Spring is proving her own point by making me want to vote her everytime she posts something, even though she's ALMOST confirmed town. Hence her lurking is a good thing. It's making me less inclined to vote her off.

OMG Jebus claim:

1) Would explain his pushing of Spring's results
2) I find spring entertaining his claim intriguing

Jebus' protection claim doesn't add up though. I heavily doubt Spring would be scum target number 1. In fact, if his claim is correct, why would he protect someone who counterclaimed a role he KNOWS is false. This makes no sense.

Jebus: You thought Spring was a townie falseclaiming??
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:10 pm

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*Too lazy for mass-prods*

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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:27 pm

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sekinj wrote:I think you are retarded, what do you say about that?
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The fact that "retarded" is not PC is just insult to injury.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:15 am

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@fhq - why wouldn't spring be scum target #1 as the (then) only claimed doc?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:43 am

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sekinj wrote:
Jebus wrote:No comment to sekinj's response, it was exactly what I expected.
What did you mean by this? I am asking now, because before I just thought you were scum, but now I am considering your claim.
I had no comment to what you thought of fhq because it's what I expected you (or anyone else) to say about it.
Spring wrote:Jebus: You thought Spring was a townie falseclaiming??
I gave it a 20% chance, and thought it a decent move because of the possibility of a scum no-kill.

And for now, I just feel like we need to go somewhere now, and I'd already messed up, so I claimed. I do think DO knew ahead of time that Spring was not a doc, he was the one who suggested that scum did that gambit.

I also highly doubt the idea of two doctors, I've never seen it done, and the terribleness for mafia as the amount of doctors rises also rises exponentially.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:24 am

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lynx: no, my rereading has been interrupted on quite a regular basis both with rl and with trying to keep up with the speed at which this thread is moving. i do not agree completely with your case on fhq. as for sekinj: no, not much more to base the vote off, mainly dropped in for pressure based on their posting at the time.

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good golly, two docs... never seen a setup with two docs. as for my take on why sl witheld information: i thought maybe she could self protect. this info would best be kept under wraps. i see little reason for scum not to target her night 1. if i had understood my role i would have watched her.

not sure who to believe with the doc thing, though jebus letting the fakeclaim ride is somewhat suspicious, i can also see reason behind all of this. unfortunately any explanation seems to be an experiment in convoluted thought. i.e. sl(jebus) is town, lying to keep scum confused as to who the real doctor is.

bottom line: i agree with the current ideas about DO and would be comfortable lynching depending on how the replacement responds. chiming in to lynch an uncounterclaimed doc after an apparent failed nightkill and then dissappearing without further thought pings scummy to me. i am still trying to determine if "replacing" is used as a viable scum strategy on this site. i have noticed a trend of more scum replacements than town.

question for all: is there a way to use my ability to confirm one or both of our alleged two doctors?

i support a massclaim.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:28 am

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fhq wrote:Jebus' protection claim doesn't add up though.
I heavily doubt Spring would be scum target number 1.
In fact, if his claim is correct, why would he protect someone who counterclaimed a role he KNOWS is false. This makes no sense.
why in regards to the bolded statement, please?
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:52 am

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fhqwhgads wrote:
Spring wrote:It is an easy thing to vote for an extension if people are so willing, you guys are so fucking lazy.
Hahaha. I'm just going to laugh at this statement.

The whole Spring/sekinj discussion is exhausting. I'm only in the middle of reading it, but my advice to sekinj is to drop it. Spring is proving her own point by making me want to vote her everytime she posts something, even though she's ALMOST confirmed town. Hence her lurking is a good thing. It's making me less inclined to vote her off.
First, this is the second time you address me in derisive and unproductive manner. Now if you have criticism to make do it properly by explaining what it is that you reproach me. If you can that is.




Now, I have played in multiple docs game before. Large games aside, there is the Quack and Masons mini; and my own modded game currently has three doctor claims on the table. So the idea of more than one doc is not strange to me.

The idea behind multiple doc would to balance them so it can never create an un-winnable situation for scum. So it not impossible and only depends on the setup.

Something to be checked here, although PM's may be different:

@Jebus. My PM contains a quatrain with an AABB rhyming scheme. The first couplet rhymes with flaming/caning.

I suppose you have a poem in your PM too, so, if it checks out with what I posted so far, two question:
- what kind of meter is it composed with?
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what's the ending rhyme of the second couplet?
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sekinj wrote: what if there are 2 docs, 1 watcher, a serial killer and a 2 man mafia team. AND the sk just happened to pick Spoilum....

That's a totally strange thing to say.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:15 am

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@Jebus
please don't miss my question to you above.

On Jebus, I'm conflicted.

1. On one hand it makes much more sense if a doc protected me from a kimm.

2. On the other, I totally don't understand the reasoning behind the whole 'I thought DO knew spring's alignment ahead of time' thing, even more so that she choose to act on it. I don't see anything that is confidence inspiring in DO's play.





So.

1. I am against massclaim atm, way too early, any mod worth it money would know how to design around it.

2. Before doing anything, DO's replacement needs to check in.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:19 am

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springlullaby wrote:@Jebus. My PM contains a quatrain with an AABB rhyming scheme.
The first couplet rhymes with flaming/caning.

I suppose you have a poem in your PM too, so, if it checks out with what I posted so far, two question:
- what kind of meter is it composed with?
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what's the ending rhyme of the second couplet?
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Yeah I'm sorry, I formulated that wrong. I meant to ask "what does the second couplet rhymes with".

See my bold for what I'm asking for.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:59 am

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even though I brought it up, I am actually against a mass claim. I thnk ppl will just lie anyway.
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:01 am

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Rhyme scheme for my PM is AABB. The first couplet matches with what you said, the second couple ends on words rhyming with "tie" or "fly". Specifically, the second line of the second couple is another word for 'the end of a persons life'.

I couldn't tell you the meter, though, my English poetry was never very strong :/

Does this match up?


Also, I support lynching DO or Don Jonson. Why massclaim so early?
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