I'm going to stretch your page until you like it.
unvote
. I've done some thinking and looked over nicolios's other games. No offense, but she seems to contribute very little, make accusations without any sort of real backup, post off topic things, and is generally out of touch with the thread regardless of alignment. If we disregard her behavior, the only complaint I have left is that she did not support a lynch on dejkha. I'd hate to let people off because acting scummy is how they typically act, but combined with the following I would rather not lynch her today.
The reason I'd wanted yesterday to kill Jazzmyn before nicolios is because dejkha missed when he attempted to kill someone. I don't think dejkha would have tried to kill MadCrawdad or Jazzmyn, since zwets asked us to lynch them, so they're not masons. I also don't think dejkha tried to kill me or IH, since we voted for zwets and are more likely to be non-mason. I think it makes sense for dejkha to have picked Crazy or nicolios.
If one of them is scum, then dejkha must have picked the other one. Since dejkha missed, I would take it as a sign that he did not know either of their alignments, so either they're both town or one of them is a mason and dejkha picked the wrong one. I think it makes sense to not lynch either of them, though it bugs me that this conclusion is only valid if zwets didn't try to pull some distancing before he died and if dejkha put some thought into who he tried to kill.
We're left with PhilyEc, MadCrawdad, and myself. IH pushed for zwets's lynch pretty hard and since the dejkha wagon looked pretty good, too, I think he could have easily switched over to dejkha if his vote on zwets was mere distancing. From this I gather that PhilyEc and MadCrawdad are not masons. It's pretty obvious from what I've written so far that I'm not a mason.
I do believe that either Crazy or nicolios is our last mason, and I don't feel that there's a downside to making this public. Only Crazy or nicolios knows for sure which one of them it is. The last scum would lose the game instantly if he missed, so I think it's pretty clear that his chances of winning would be better if he just tried to avoid mislynching. If either nicolios or Crazy is killed, then it would be pretty obvious that the one who didn't die is the last scum, since only that person would be sure enough of the other one's role in order to attempt a kill.
Post numbers correspond to those found when filtering thread for only that person's posts.
IH Analysis
0: Votes nicolios.
1: Does not agree with my plan to cut discussion in the first 24 hours of the day. He also apparently is unaware that the scum weren't allowed to talk in the first 24 hours of the first day. Since the rules are the same for masons, he is also unaware that the masons weren't allowed to talk during that time. This tells me that he's either a townie or he's pretending to be a townie.
2: Here's the explanation for the nicolios vote. He calls attention to nicolios not knowing why hohum died. I didn't notice this originally, but this reason also applies to what he said in post #1. He could have been pretending not to know about when the scum are allowed to talk.
7: Most of this post talks about zwets. Zwets was rather senseless, though, so even though he turned out to be a mason, I'm not going to call that scummy. Notice, however, that he said he was leaning town on Sironigous (scum).
10: Pushes for hammer, but that's not what irks me. This is:
"Also, I'd like to move the topic of the discussion to the HAMMER dangit. I asked last page."
I wanted zwets to die, too, but here he's asking Crazy to stop picking on dejkha (scum).
PhilyEc Analysis
1: FoS's nicolios and says there's a clear difference between nicolios and Jazzmyn.
2: Gives Jazzmyn "minor scum points" for not being mentioned by dejkha.
3: In this post he switches his potential vote from nicolios to Jazzmyn. I find it a little odd that even though earlier he seemed to really dislike nicolios and gave Jazzmyn only
minor
scum points, he was so willing to switch over. He goes from preferring one over the other to not really caring and proposes that we actually lynch Jazzmyn first. I think this is because it looked like Crazy and I were pretty set on voting for Jazzmyn, so it would be easier to get a lynch in by going after her instead of persuing nicolios.
4-5: Apparently the self vote was accidental. I don't really know what to make of that. It's probably nothing, but I kinda wonder how you could accidentally self vote.
6: Long post:
----- Asks Jazzmyn to kill herself. Uhh. Sometimes I wish people on the chopping block with indecisive towns would just self hammer because I'm impatient, but I would never come out and ask that person to do it.
----- He explains that IH not liking the don't-talk-for-24-hours plan isn't scummy since he doesn't think the masons would have revealed themselves. He also thinks that we could have caught scum during that time. Why would the masons be better at hiding themselves than the scum?
----- I don't think IH would have been convinced that Sir is scummy just because he wanted someone to hammer zwets. I could see maybe a new player saying something like that, but IH isn't new.
11:
"Urging we halt the "PhilyEc's-fault-if-we screw-up" plan and take a look at MadCrawdad's behaviour, might've given the hammer to scum, it is a possibility unfortunately."
Uhmm.. what is this PhilyEc's-fault-if-we-screw-up plan? It sounds like he wants us not to lynch him should nicolios turn out to be pro-town and instead tries to direct our attention to MadCrawdad.
MadCrawdad Analysis
4, 6-7: Discusses with Crazy over post frequency, resulting in a FoS on Crazy. Crazy didn't post as much early game as he does not, but since he wasn't randomly gone for days and days, it makes me wonder why MCD was making such a big deal out of it. Seems like a silly reason to FoS someone.
8-16: Mostly talking to/about zwets. I'm not getting town or anti-town vibes from these posts.
17: Points out that nicolios and dejkha seem to often be in agreement. Looks pro-town to me as it doesn't make sense for scum to point out a possible connection between one of his scum buddies and another player. Another thing I like is that he doesn't support no-lynching.
20:
"Dejkha, do you believe Cool's claim?"
I wonder what was the point in asking him this question. Could be two scum players trying to decide whether they should try to kill ThaCoolness or not. I can't think of a pro-town reason for discussing his role.
22: Votes dejkha. Could be bussing, could be that he recognized dejkha's scumminess.
28: Hammers Jazzmyn. I find this post somewhat alarming. Jazzmyn's last post was quite long and actually asked us to look at MCD's posts. Only nicolios managed to get in a post between Jazzmyn's last post and the hammer. If Jazzmyn's post had contained basically nothing, I would have hammered, but that was not the case. MCD, why did you hammer Jazzmyn when there was more that could have been discussed?
Crazy Analysis
17 - 32: Either he's convinced that dejkha is scum, or he's bussing for no reason. If he felt it necessary to bus somebody to establish himself as town, it would have probably made more sense to bus Sironigous, as he was the less competant of the two. I tried looking through some of his previous games, but I only found one game (open 95) in which he was mafia and another mafia member was lynched before him. He's not afraid to put his vote on fellow scum buddies, but he didn't actually go so far as to lynch a partner.
34: Asks people not to look at himself, nicolios, or ThaCoolness. It was reasonable to not publically needle them, and doing so would have been helpful to scum. Since pro-town players like Jazzmyn didn't let that stop her from voting ThaCoolnes, it looks pretty clear that Crazy could have gone without making this post. Looks pro-town to me. Would look better if he unfortunately wasn't also one of the people we're supposed to avoid.
66: Thumbs up.
Not much to say about him. I think he's pro-town.
I'm not going to bother with nicolios either, since complaints against her have mostly been already brought up in thread, and there's not really much there to look at, anyway.
I would like to lynch in this order:
1. PhilyEc
2. MadCrawdad
3. nicoliosgotpolio
4. Crazy
vote: PhilyEc
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More coming soon.
