Newbie 736 (Game Over)

[Xtoxm]

I'm not sure what I was expecting. But that response disatisfies me.

Vote Zee

[Cephrir]

Third Vote Count of Day 2:

ZEEnon 3 (Sironigous, Porkens, Xtoxm)

Sironigous 1 (ZEEnon)
Porkens 1 (LynchHimNotMe)

Giuseppe 0
LynchHimNotMe 0
image 0
Xtoxm 0

Not Voting 2 (image, Giuseppe)

4 to lynch.

[Porkens]

L-1. I'd like a claim.

[Porkens]

EDIT: L-1. I'd like a claim.

or a hammer

[Giuseppe]

If Zee claims, and isn't important, I'll drop the hammer, I suppose, if no one objects.

[image]

I object. Don't hammer ZEE right after a claim; let him state his scumlist and PBPA. Then we can decide if we really should lynch him.

The real problem here is, if we say "We'll lynch you unless you're important," and he's vanilla, what's he supposed to do?

[Xtoxm]

Lying as VT can get the town into all sorts of horrible mess, and potentially be game losing. I would hope he, or anyone here, wouldn't do it.

Guiseppe - Why "I suppopse" it sounds uncaring and unsure. It sounds scummy.

[Giuseppe]

Mis disculpes. On this matter, well, ZEE hasn't really put forth a solid defense, but at the same time, I'm feel, not necessarily apathetic, but reserved. I feel like he has more to say, and that makes me hesitant, but his unwillingness to say more makes me think he's condemning himself.

That said, I agree that ZEE should claim, PBPA, and give a scumlist. If he does that, and his answers aren't satisfactory, there will be no "I suppose" within my hammer.

[Giuseppe]

EBWOP: *I'm feeling, not...*

[image]

@Xtoxm: I realise lying as VT is really bad. That's why we shouldn't put incentive on ZEE to lie in the case that he is VT. If he's scum, he's going to lie anyway.

[Xtoxm]

Ok. I find that a quite pleasing answer, actually.

And, the posting scumlist and PBPA...I'm not against it, but...I am yet to see anyone refer back to anything a dead non-informed role has said and use that as basis for decision making.

I do feel that Zee has become somewhat disinterested in the game, which I think make sit more likely he's scum, given the situation.

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

I am contemplating another speed-hammer

nah, just kidding

I still support a Porkens lynch or a Giuseppe lynch.

[Sironigous]

When I say we, I speak for town-aligned players in general. Do you not think that we deserve to know what Sironigous feels? Since I asked him how he feels, he has decided that I am scummy.

When you ask me for what I feel for the town to hear, I assume you mean everything.

You're not getting that.

You see, I'm not going to give the general public my point of the game all the way to the very last thought.

There ARE strangers out there. You don't give them your home address. At most, you give them the state/province/country/hemisphere. One day, you might just get a strange person knocking at your door to kill you - particularly in the darkness of the night.

However, these strangers have ruined the reputation of the outside world - of course, the few minority ruin the reputation of the "outside world."

It's much harder to mess someone up with general information.
On the contrary, it's easier to expand on general information.


Vague, sure.
Helpful, maybe.
Concerned, yes.

[Porkens]

When I say we, I speak for town-aligned players in general. Do you not think that we deserve to know what Sironigous feels? Since I asked him how he feels, he has decided that I am scummy.

When you ask me for what I feel for the town to hear, I assume you mean everything.

You're not getting that.

You see, I'm not going to give the general public my point of the game all the way to the very last thought.

There ARE strangers out there. You don't give them your home address. At most, you give them the state/province/country/hemisphere. One day, you might just get a strange person knocking at your door to kill you - particularly in the darkness of the night.

However, these strangers have ruined the reputation of the outside world - of course, the few minority ruin the reputation of the "outside world."

It's much harder to mess someone up with general information.
On the contrary, it's easier to expand on general information.


Vague, sure.
Helpful, maybe.
Concerned, yes.

I'm sorry, but; what? How was this helpful?

[Sironigous]

For the past ~3 days ZEE has been bugging me to tell this general public everything I know.

My response was meant to be a response to that.

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

Sir, go back to lurking please.

ZEE, where art thou?

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

hmmm

Unvote Vote: ZEEnon

ZEE has no partners so his scumlist or PBPA will not help us. and if he claims VT then we will still be stuck in the same situation as we are in right now since everyone is "VT unless proven otherwise"

[Porkens]

2 posts in a

row

without saying anything about your desire to lynch me?

I feel...almost hurt

[Xtoxm]

LHNM, you can't just go around doing that. If Zee turns up a power role you could have really hurt the town. (I doubt it, but still) Particularly post-D1 when the role might be a cop with some infomation.

[image]

His scumlist would have been very useful, however, if he flips cop...

[Cephrir]

Final Vote Count of Day 2:

ZEEnon 4 (Sironigous, Porkens, Xtoxm, LynchHimNotMe)

Sironigous 1 (ZEEnon)

Porkens 0
Giuseppe 0
LynchHimNotMe 0
image 0
Xtoxm 0

Not Voting 2 (image, Giuseppe)

A seond day found the already once-successful town full of hope. Perhaps they would be able to rid their town of the mafia menace after all! After gathering in the town square, the town begins to consider lynching ZEEnon. He puts up a frail display of defense, but in the commotion of debate LynchHimNotMe once again ends the bickering with a sudden move. Could the town possibly succeed with such a move again? image solemnly begins to read his identification card...



...

"

ZEEnon, Mafia Goon

, has been lynched Day 2."

Taking no time to question how this ID card apparently knew the future, the townies rejoice. It's over!

Town wins!

[Cephrir]

Setup:
Mafia Goons: zindionne, ZEEnon
Cop: Sironigous
Townies: Everyone else

Night One:
ZEEnon kills Moriarty147
Sironigous investigates Porkens

So... yeah. I feel like the quick game was partially my fault for not replacing zindionne fast enough, after that ZEEnon basically gave up judging by his PMs and effort. Can't say I blame him that much. The most important thing I can say about this game: Don't assume LynchHimNotMe's play in this game was good. Quickhammering is not a good idea and in my opinion he got pretty lucky. ZEEnon probably should have killed him (he was going to and changed it) but I don't think it would have made a difference. Sironigous didn't look overwhelmingly protown so he probably would have lived long enough to wrap up the game for town if it wasn't over for a day or two.

[Xtoxm]

Hehe, sweet. But yeh, Agree with Ceph there. Speed hammering is totally not the way to go.

Good game guys.

[Porkens]

Hehe, I had a feeling. high-fives all around.

Why'd you investigate me Sir?

[Xtoxm]

I think you were a fairly good choice. I've played with you before, and I think i've got a pretty good feel for you, but if I hadn't i'd have been more suspicious of you.

You also kept turning up in all the wrong places (along with Image). My wagon, absent from Zind's, appeared on Sir's...