RC: you are arguing with me about my "acceptance" of Budja's reasoning. you seem to think there was some sort of "absolute" and clear moment when this game left the RVS. i will do a pbpa sometime today, but your entire case seems based on that very narrow minded OPINION of when we left the rvs. also, how am i to be faulted for "accepting" someones excuse? in my OPINION there is no proof of when or whose vote took us out of the rvs. you thought it was ice9, budja thought it was himself, i thought it was me. why should i disbelieve a player who thinks that about their vote? there is no clear proof, nor did i see you chiming in at the time to dispute it. everything becomes more clear in hindsight. Budja played poorly and i was willing to see him lynched if need be, but yours and Springs ridiculousness trumped his stupidity.
RC wrote:This is contradictory. You disagree with my contention that Budja didn't have the first "real" vote yet you say the votes before Budja's weren't random?
why is this even relevant? i personally believe that most votes occuring int the rvs are "joke" votes. true randomness is a philosophy in itself. how did you decide who to vote for? in fact you voted Budja. how and/or why did you choose Budja? personally i chose wolfblitzer because i recognized the celebrity name. it stood out so i voted him. that's not random. you are now crossing into the land of "fishing" for scumminess. this argument is complete crap.
RC wrote:Like I said earlier in this post, your reasoning is based on the idea that Budja's vote is the first real vote, which is patently false. Budja cannot have been "trying to get us out of the random stage" because we were already out of the random stage. Period.
sorry, but no. i thought budja was an idiot. it seemed perfectly plausible to me that Budja thought exactly what he said he thought.
RC wrote:effectively dismissing Ice9 and Wolf's votes as random, and dismissing my argument altogether.
i haven't "dismissed" anything. please show me where i did.
RC wrote:I'm concerned with that fact that you just clean accepted his claim that he was the vote to "get us out of the random stage".
^^^ this was his claim. not mine. again, what reason did i have to distrust budja in such a manner as to accuse him of lieing at that stage of the game? also i did acknowledge other players. reread the thread.
{quote"RC"]In other words, that's not the only thing I wanted to address, and I don't appreciate you framing me in that way.[/quote]
hi pot! heres a kettle. can you tell me what color it is?
RC wrote:I don't wish to convey such bravado. I think you as scum based on a
multitude of factors
that I'm only able to see after Budja flipped scum, many of my points are dependent on that.
now its a multitude? before it was "only" my "acceptance" of budja's excuse.
sorry, but in regards to the wifom i was trying to appease you. i.e. you used wifom to show guilt, i can use it to show innocence- therefore it is silly. that aside, have you bothered to look at the back end of the wagon?
let me put a stop to this silliness.
role claim: town watcher
night 1 target: Red Coyote
results: confusing
i misinterpreted my ability. i thought its properties were more akin to the role "tracker" and have been back and forth with the mod as to my results. My first return PM stated that RC was home alone all night. when asked to clarify i got the response that as watcher i only see who targets my target and am given no information as to alignment. however, based on my continuing conversation i am leaning towards RC being town despite his entirely crap argument. has anyone here been watcher before? mods answers were puzzling to me and i have been wrestling with the results.
