Open 122 - Near Vanilla (Game over)

[Mufasa]

Srry all been busy with school and the work that goes along with it will catch up around here, lots of action in the last day or two.

[ac1983fan]

And there's no reason to be careful with a vote on a player who is at...L-6?

That's exactly what the people in one of my other games have telling me.
It's my vote, I can be as careful as I want with it.

What is the worst that can come from an early vote?

Hint: The answer isn't 5 more people quick vote before you have time to unvote.

I don't know, and I don't really care what you think about my play style. If there's something about voting cautiously that's anti-town, let me know, and I'll kindly adjust my playstyle accordingly. However, I've never seen voting cautiously hurt a town.

It fails the "if everybody did this, could we lynch scum?" test. It hurts if people go back and look at your votes to get a read on you. It doesn't apply enough pressure to who you think is suspicious. And there is nothing that shows a more firm stance than voting/unvoting.

Off the top of my head, that's about it.

I don't quite understand the first bit. If people really need a read on me, they should read my whole post. And anyway, I conviently put my fos's in bold, so they should stand out anyway. And obviously it did apply enough pressure, because it got you to explain your reasoning. And how firm of a stance can you have on page 3?

[Kmd4390]

Dej, I'd have something to say to you if that game was completed. =/

ac,

If this ends up being an extremely active game where we all have too many posts to read through, votes are a good place to look for a read on a player. Especially in vote counts at the end of a day.

Also, FoS is much weaker than a vote.

And the FoS didn't "get" me to explain anything. Asking a question would have been enough.

On page 3, you don't have a guarantee on anything, but you can firmly believe something. You have that as soon as you make a serious, non-RVS vote. This is true because as long as the vote is there, everyone knows that that's where your suspicion lies until you unvote. Basically, a vote says much more than an FoS.

[ac1983fan]

Dej, I'd have something to say to you if that game was completed. =/

ac,

If this ends up being an extremely active game where we all have too many posts to read through, votes are a good place to look for a read on a player. Especially in vote counts at the end of a day.

Also, FoS is much weaker than a vote.

And the FoS didn't "get" me to explain anything. Asking a question would have been enough.

On page 3, you don't have a guarantee on anything, but you can firmly believe something. You have that as soon as you make a serious, non-RVS vote. This is true because as long as the vote is there, everyone knows that that's where your suspicion lies until you unvote. Basically, a vote says much more than an FoS.

I guess that's just where we disagree on the usage of a vote, then. I will use my vote when I fully believe somebody should be lynched for their actions. I will use an fos if someone's action's are suspicious. I do not currently fully believe you should be lynched, I only find you suspicious.

[Kmd4390]

Dej, I'd have something to say to you if that game was completed. =/

ac,

If this ends up being an extremely active game where we all have too many posts to read through, votes are a good place to look for a read on a player. Especially in vote counts at the end of a day.

Also, FoS is much weaker than a vote.

And the FoS didn't "get" me to explain anything. Asking a question would have been enough.

On page 3, you don't have a guarantee on anything, but you can firmly believe something. You have that as soon as you make a serious, non-RVS vote. This is true because as long as the vote is there, everyone knows that that's where your suspicion lies until you unvote. Basically, a vote says much more than an FoS.

I guess that's just where we disagree on the usage of a vote, then. I will use my vote when I fully believe somebody should be lynched for their actions. I will use an fos if someone's action's are suspicious. I do not currently fully believe you should be lynched, I only find you suspicious.

Fair enough. We'll agree to disagree on this.

So the rest of the original point:

The whole point in asking for scum meta is similar to the point of the RVS. The idea with asking for scum meta is that scum are going to be uncomfortable with the idea while townies will be glad to share. Rin came out against it.

Do you believe otherwise?

You said that anyone wanting meta should find it on their own. Why does it hurt to talk about how you play as scum?

[Mufasa]

I've never been scum on any games on this community

[hohum]

I've never been scum on any games on this community

Are you scum in this one? If so we can give you some good advice

[Mufasa]

haha Hohum, Outside this forum I love to get power roles I just think the mods on this forum don't like me enough to give me a decent role

[Kmd4390]

haha Hohum, Outside this forum I love to get power roles I just think the mods on this forum don't like me enough to give me a decent role

You didn't answer the question.

[ac1983fan]

You said that anyone wanting meta should find it on their own. Why does it hurt to talk about how you play as scum?

I just don't really see the point of making other people's play easier. I mean, I highly doubt that meta is even necessary. I don't feel the need for it. But, I can see some of your point in asking for it, I just don't think people who don't wish to post their scum meta are automatically scum.
I personally have no real scum meta, since the only completed games I have were from back when I posted like
this:

unvote vote:ac1983fan
SOMEONE HAMMAH!

so yeah, but seriously, meta isn't necessary, players should not be forced to post it.

[Mufasa]

Quite Honestly I am not the mafia nor have I been on this community

[Kmd4390]

ac, no, players shouldn't be "forced" to give their meta from games where they were scum, but they should have no problem talking about how they play as scum.

[hohum]

Quite Honestly I am not the mafia nor have I been on this community

You realize that god can see you playing this game, right? If you're lying you best repent or roast deep in the depths of hell.

[Mufasa]

Quite Honestly I am not the mafia nor have I been on this community

You realize that god can see you playing this game, right? If you're lying you best repent or roast deep in the depths of hell.

Haha "Don't bring Religion into these forum" You know where that is from Ho Hum ahhaha

[Kmd4390]

Quite Honestly I am not the mafia nor have I been on this community

You realize that god can see you playing this game, right? If you're lying you best repent or roast deep in the depths of hell.

Haha "Don't bring Religion into these forum" You know where that is from Ho Hum ahhaha

Santa is watching too.

[ac1983fan]

ac, no, players shouldn't be "forced" to give their meta from games where they were scum, but they should have no problem talking about how they play as scum.

...Well, I guess it all goes back to jumping to conclusions in terms of Rin Twisted. Rin obviously doesn't feel that she should post her meta. If you want meta on her, go look it up yourself. You just shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. At least that's what I think.

[Kmd4390]

ac, no, players shouldn't be "forced" to give their meta from games where they were scum, but they should have no problem talking about how they play as scum.

...Well, I guess it all goes back to jumping to conclusions in terms of Rin Twisted. Rin obviously doesn't feel that she should post her meta. If you want meta on her, go look it up yourself. You just shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. At least that's what I think.

Oh I'm not as worried about what she's hiding as I am about why she's hiding it.

[hewitt]

I would have to agree that it is a little silly to jump to conclusions so quickly but it does bother me a little she's not showing her past games. However, if that's consistent with her gameplay and that's how she always plays then I can understand that better.

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote; Vote: Rin Twisted

obvscum

[dejkha]

I would have to agree that it is a little silly to jump to conclusions so quickly but it does bother me a little she's not showing her past games. However, if that's consistent with her gameplay and that's how she always plays then I can understand that better.

Maybe it's because she just signed up a week ago. Unless it's an alt.

[Kmd4390]

I would have to agree that it is a little silly to jump to conclusions so quickly but it does bother me a little she's not showing her past games. However, if that's consistent with her gameplay and that's how she always plays then I can understand that better.

Maybe it's because she just signed up a week ago. Unless it's an alt.

Then why not simply say, "I just signed up a week ago"?

[dejkha]

Well, all she said was "I really hope no one else does this." She never actually implied whether she could or couldn't, just that she didn't want anyone else to. I think you just took it as a "no" to your request.

[hohum]

she should go join a newbie game if she wants to play the newbie card.

[Kmd4390]

Well, all she said was "I really hope no one else does this." She never actually implied whether she could or couldn't, just that she didn't want anyone else to. I think you just took it as a "no" to your request.

Actually, she said:

You're kidding, right? I hope you're kidding. I really hope no one else does this.

[dejkha]

That doesn't make what I said any less true =/