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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:05 pm

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I'm not scum. Korts is scum?
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:14 pm

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If you give me five minutes, I will demonstrate just how screwed we are.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:25 pm

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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:25 pm

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OK...
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:30 pm

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Alright.

I lied. I was scum. Congrats. :-)

The lack of night kills was because we had the combined power of gun invention. We didn't begin with guns, so that's why we couldn't kill on night 0. We couldn't kill whichever night I replaced in because darkdude had been given the gun the night before. We didn't receive any of Macavity's guns.

I think that's about all the explanation there is to be given. The rest of the game was pretty straight forward.
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:57 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:01 pm

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Kison, Mafia, is lynched for the win!


Congratulations town!
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:03 pm

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The Setup
Town:
1 Amnesiac Cop (Puta Puta)
1 Gun Inventor (MacavityLock)
1 Tracker (Rage)
6 Vanilla Townies

Mafia:
1 Godfather (tubby216)
2 Goons (darkdude, Kison
IH
gorckat
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Group Ability: Gun Invention (self-target possible for final member)


Night Actions
Night 0:
Puta Puta investigates Ectomancer (innocent), sends result to ThAdmiral.
MacavityLock does nothing.
tubby216 produces gun for gorckat.
Rage tracks darkdude (no result).

Night 1:
MacavityLock does nothing.
tubby216 produces gun for darkdude.
gorckat kills MacavityLock with the N0 gun.
Rage tracks Korts (no result).

Night 2:
tubby216 produces gun for Kison.
Rage tracks insanepenguin02 (no result).

Night 3:
Kison produces gun for himself and kills Rage with the N2 gun.
Rage tracks afatchic (no result).

Night 4:
Kison produces gun for himself and kills ThAdmiral with the N3 gun.

Night 5:
Kison produces gun for himself and kills Ectomancer with the N4 gun.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:10 pm

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I was only following this game intermittently once I was dead, but you have no idea how aggravating it was to see pages of discussion on the guns that I never made. (After a bit more mafia under my belt, it's possible that I should have produced guns, probably over N1. Problem was I didn't like anybody as particularly townie at that point.)

Anyway, go town! I'm glad I could contribute.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:15 pm

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bah!!! good job town,,

i knew i was goin to be that days lynch i was hopin to kick up enough dust that kison wouldn't be found,,

oh well i need more practice see you all in future games
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:21 pm

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MacavityLock wrote:I was only following this game intermittently once I was dead, but you have no idea how aggravating it was to see pages of discussion on the guns that I never made. (After a bit more mafia under my belt, it's possible that I should have produced guns, probably over N1. Problem was I didn't like anybody as particularly townie at that point.)

Anyway, go town! I'm glad I could contribute.
I think you made the right choice.

gg scum!
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:32 pm

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lol good job on Ecto for lynching me. I had no idea why you thought what I did was scum, really, but since I actually was I guess I can't say much.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:52 pm

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TDC wrote:
The Setup


This is the Town Victory Condition that will be present in all pro-town role PMs:
You win with the town when all threats to the town are dead.
All other possible Victory Conditions will remain hidden.

This game is Semi-Open, what follows is a list of all roles which may or may not be in the game:

These roles are always town aligned:
You are an
Amnesiac Cop
. Each night you can investigate another player to find out whether they are in the mafia. You will, however, forget your result so you also have to name yet another player, who should receive the result of your investigation.
You are an
Amnesiac Deputy
. You will take the position of the first (Amnesiac) Cop who dies. You will then become an Amnesiac Cop.
You are a
Cop
. Each night you can investigate another player to find out whether they are in the mafia.
You are a
Deputy
. You will take the position of the first (Amnesiac) Cop who dies. You will then become a Cop.
You are a
Mason
with XX. You know that they are town, and they know that you are town. You two can talk at night.
You are a
Miller
. This means that you will always look guilty to cop investigations.
You are a
Vanilla Townie
, you have no special power.
These roles are always mafia aligned:
You are a
Godfather
. This means that you will always look innocent to cop investigations.
You are a
Goon
. You have no special powers.
The following role is neither:
You are a
Serial Killer
. Each night you can send me a target you will attempt to kill. You are immune to all night actions.
The following role can be either town or mafia aligned:
You are a
Neighbour
of XXX. You can talk with them at night, but you do not know their alignment.
All other roles can be either town aligned, mafia aligned or be a group ability of the mafia(*):
You are an
Amnesiac Tracker
. Each night you can find out who another player targeted that night. You will, however, forget your result so you also have to name yet another player, who should receive the result of your tracking.
You are an
Amnesiac Watcher
. Each night you can find out who targeted another player that night. You will, however, forget your result so you also have to name yet another player, who should receive the result of your watching.
You are a
Bodyguard
. Each night you can choose to protect another player. You will die in their place if they are targeted for a kill.
You are a
Doctor
. Each night you can choose to protect another player.
You are a
Jailkeeper
. Each night you can lock another player away. They will neither be able to perform their night action nor can anyone else perform a night action on them.
You are a
Gun Inventor
. Each night you can give another player a gun (One-Shot Vigilante) to be used on any subsequent night.
You are a
Nurse
. You will take the position of the first Doctor who dies.
You are a
One-Shot Doctor
. One night you can protect another player.
You are a
One-Shot Vigilante
. One night you can attempt to kill another player.
You are a
Roleblocker
. Each night you can prevent another player from performing their night action.
You are a
Tracker
. Each night you can find out who another player targeted that night.
You are a
Syringe Inventor
. Each night you can give another player a syringe (One-Shot Doctor) to be used on any subsequent night.
You are a
Vigilante
. Each night you can attempt to kill another player.
You are a
Watcher
. Each night you can find out who targeted another player that night.
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Example: The group ability of Vigilante is identical with a mafia kill.
Note: The last mafia member may use both one group ability and his role ability in the same night. Group abilities may or may not be used on themselves in that case.
this made for an awesome game. Great format, setup, and execution.

I'm looking forward to playing in TDC's future normal games.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:52 pm

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yay! town wins.

i thought/hoped it was kison.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:53 pm

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abr - thanks for covering mod duties while tdc was gone.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:37 pm

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My pleasure. And Adel, call me Albert.
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:43 pm

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I was really looking forward to staring at those eleven flowerless graves. :-(

I think Adel was the MVP of the game. She kept the ball rolling, applying pressure where needed, and ultimately made the right call on two of the most critical lynches, one of which never would have progressed without her instigation. Whereas Korts and Ectomancer began to fall back with their contribution, Adel kept her head in the game the entire time.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:27 pm

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Nice job Adel. I would have lynched Korts.

Darkdude, it was one of those things where I just
knew
and for exactly the reasons I gave. Then my radar mostly failed me. :o
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:35 pm

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what were the rules for the gun? Could one player use more than one in one night? That could have set up a very sweet doc fake claim.

like:
kison could have wrote: tubby is innocent - I protected him last night and there wasn't a kill.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:47 pm

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ThAdmiral wrote:yay! town wins.

i thought/hoped it was kison.
looking back over your posts really helped inform my decision. I felt that both Kison and Korts seemed a little insincere with the tubby wagon at times.


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I still don't understand why tubby and darkdude voted for IH. Was it a parallel distancing move? I can't recall seeing that maneuver before.

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this graphic helped me a lot when I reread the day with the knowledge that one of Kison and Korts bussed tubby.

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@kison why did you kill Ecto instead of me? Just because he was confirmed? How did you expect endgame to work out?

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How responsible was Korts in the lynching of darkdude? I never really got found a good answer for that question.
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:00 pm

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Do either of you care if I post the quicktopic link?

From what TDC said before I joined the game, each individual could only have one gun at any given time. All three of us could have had one gun each, and fired them all at once, but I could not, for example, have stocked up three guns myself after tubby died and fired them on the same night. It was the first thing that came to mind as a solution to dealing with Rage.
TDC wrote:Provided the two guns have gone to different people and they're both still alive, yes you can kill twice. (and the third one of you, if still alive, could give one of you another gun, too)
Adel wrote:@kison why did you kill Ecto instead of me? Just because he was confirmed? How did you expect endgame to work out?
I knew Ectomancer hadn't written me off as I claimed. I was well aware of him saying he was up in the air about me. One of the reasons I didn't feel that Ectomancer would go after Korts as hard was because I expected there not to be any roles in the game. One of the reasons Ectomancer was going after Korts was because he bought into your theory of him being the scum roleblocker. The other reason is that I anticipated a lot of flack for the endgame not making
any
sense for Korts to have put in place - pretty much the opposite of what I said for the endgame that actually did come to be.

Basically, I felt that with afatchic and you both dying and coming up town, and roleless(Brain of Wombat pretty much claimed Vanilla), there would've been enough room for swinging Ectomancer my way. The Adel/Korts/Kison endgame left a lot of ambiguity and could have gone any of the three ways. I really thought I had this game bagged. :D
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:03 pm

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Number of uses of the acronym "WIFOM" during day 6:
Korts: 0
Adel: 1
Kison: 3
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:19 pm

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this graphic helped me a lot when I reread the day with the knowledge that one of Kison and Korts bussed tubby.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:44 pm

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Kison wrote:
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This is awesome :D

Thanks, ABR and TDC for the modding. Nice setup, too.

And I agree, Adel is the MVP.
Adel wrote:How responsible was Korts in the lynching of darkdude? I never really got found a good answer for that question.
Well, I was more or less following in Ecto's wake, but I would've lynched Rage and not darkdude.
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:46 pm

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I guess it was a good thing I didn't draw the NK like I was trying to.

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