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Not to mention she did it all wrong too. Elvis, you need big text, bold, and many many posts.DrippingGoofball wrote:
All players that make jokes about being scum in their first three posts are scum.charter wrote:
She's either scum or lying. Either way...elvis_knits wrote:I am scum.
I believe this with such conviction that I will park my vote on elvis until she's lynched.
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Yeah, he is perceiving nothing as attacks. Comes from scum a LOT. My vote is definately serious.Skander wrote:What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.
And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?
@Elvis, I dunno, I don't really see it like that. He was what, the third or fourth vote? If he'd been the fifth or sixth I'd definately agree, but I don't see how what he did is really that scummy.-
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I almost universally treat all claims that come when not under serious pressure as null and pretty much just ignore them. If that person has acted scummy enough to warrent a lynch, their claim doesn't get in the way. As for people's reactions, I think farside and DGB's are interesting. DGB says 80% of miller claims are scum, well that right there is a reason for her to go after ABR tooth and nail. 80% IS THE ODDS FROM THE LOINS OF JESUS! Farside made a lot of questioning and then went nowhere with it. I don't even see what she could have done with those questions. Quite suspicious of both of them.skander wrote:@everyone: How predictable is the miller reaction around here? I see that pretty much everyone that responded refernced their own personal beliefs about miller claims. How easy is it for someone to predict the responses that a miller claim will bring?
Straight from the horses mouth, I think he needs another vote.vollkan wrote:Well, to state it now, "YES, I APPROVE OF THE WAGON ON ME"
Good catch, make that two more votes.skander wrote:Bold mine. If they are not a viable strategy for scum why isn't it a town tell?-
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Where did charter try to silence anybody? I question a contradiction from DGB and useless questioning from farside. Even after I do this they still go on about it and I say nothing about it.
All I said about the claim was it's a null tell to me. If ABR acts scummy enough to get lynched, then we just won't have to wait for a claim.
DGB, why would you say 80% of miller claims are fake then not go after ABR? What percent are you shooting for day one?
Farside, what was the point of all your questioning about games with millers in them?
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... I asked why you were questioning about games with millers in them. It had nothing to do with the fact that ABR claimed miller. So, what was the point of all the questioning games with millers in them?farside22 wrote:I asked ABR someone questions because he didn't claim on his first post and wanted to know more about why he claimed when he did and why he didn't claim in his first post.
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Ok, that was about the only acceptable answer I could think up that you could give.
He keeps his cool? Please, he's barely posting. If you think he's being bussed, why would you care if he gets lynched? The only lynch acceptable day one is of town? Is of scum but only townies voting for scum? No lynch? I really don't see what you're getting at.-
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Elvis- No one took her seriously, except you. You voted for her saying you wouldn't unvote until she was lynched.DrippingGoofball wrote:
You are asking because you think these are two similar things? Erm, how?charter wrote:Oh, another thing. How is you not acting on getting ABR lynched because no one will be convinced by you different than you saying Elvis is scum for claiming scum and nothing will change your mind, but you do vote for her?
ABR- Claimed miller, you say he's scum. You don't vote him.
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I don't understand why Korts unvoted vollkan. I think he had a high chance to be scum and then we'd know who all his buddies are because he was being "heavily bussed".
Good question. This is twice now farside and DGB have overrun the thread with pointlessness.roflcopter wrote:why is there a discussion going on about what would happen were someone to claim miller at lynch -1?
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Ok... Elvis died, bringing us down to 11 people left alive, so we only needed six to lynch. And, I love how you ask me why I can think there could be voteless people when you assume there are double voters..Korts wrote:
Hmm. I don't really understand. Since it was stated in the first vote count that it was 7 to lynch, someone seems to be a double-voter.charter wrote:Korts, why just me and vollkan? Why not CarnCarn in your scum triangle? He voted ABR but wasnt in the votecount.
CarnCarn would only have been the seventh vote, thus being the hammer-vote. Why would he be in my "scum triangle"?
Also, I'm not making a link between you and vollkan, I'm saying that both of your votes seemed strange--with vollkan's also being scummy.
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DGB answered this in 280, why must you ask after it has already been answered? Time is an important factor in this game. Giving a suspect more time gives him and his scumbuddies more time to come up with a more convincing fakeclaim than ABR's.vollkan wrote:At the point of your writing this, D2 had been going for just 2 days and Neko had yet to even post on D2, yet alone claim. I'm curious...why would it make sense for town to lynch in such a situation?
Explain to me how the other reasons are legitimate.vollkan wrote:The other reasons are legitimate. Sure, suspicion of ABR is clearly the most important thing, but I don't see why you can so bluntly dismiss the rest of it as "bs".-
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I gave a reason too. Prevent fakeclaiming fabrication.vollkan wrote:For starters, I was asking you and not DGB.
I argue that the increased credibility of a fakeclaim is worse than a quicklynch.vollkan wrote:But, I would argue, that said cost (which is actually fairly minor, given that scum can and do plan in advance and that it isn't exactly something which requires real-time days of contemplation) is more than offset by the cost of jumping into a lynch too quickly.
Scum will never target a miller. Find me even one case where it has happened. No town protective role is wisely spent on a miller. There are virtually no roles worse than a miller. No other town power is well used on a miller.vollkan wrote:Makes perfect sense. Sure, it doesn't count for much at all, since scum is very very unlikely to target a claimed miller, but it's legit, if not very powerful.
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Ignorance of what, exactly?charter wrote:DGB, what do you make of neko's claimed ignorance?
I better not say any suspicion against neko either, that would be a scum trick attempting to make myself look, whats the word... even scummier?!?!?neko2086 wrote:K, so you think I'm much more likely to be making [my claim] up than to have made a mistake out of ignorance?-
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farside22 wrote:It's possible looking at DGB's quote that it would explain the action of why rolf. A couple of issues I have at this moment. I feel 2 people are scum with a possible 3rd at this point
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Volkan stated the following:I'd forgotten all about Panama...until now :Evil:
On the other hand, I am firmly of the view that Millers should claim as early as possible (and this is early enough).
Easily believes without question the miller claim.
charter found the discussion unncecessary and Korts believed it as well. None of these 3 have hammered Neko at this point and none are voting for him.
These gave me the impression you found vollkan scummy.farside22 wrote:DGB do you have anything to say about anything? I'm going to hold off on the hammer till DGB has her say.
Umm, sorry, but what you said before definately implied you were willing to hammer. You're now trying to say you were waiting on DGB to hammer before, but now you're saying you didn't agree with a vollkan lynch then? Why didn't you say "I don't agree with a vollkan lynch" instead of "I'm going to hold off on the hammer"?farside wrote:Because I decided not to hammer? Well excuse me for noting agreeing with a case I haven't liked from the get go.
Yes, because it lets vollkansuperduperscum live longer.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Any particular reason why you worry that lurkerscum CarnCarn is pressured?charter wrote:DGB, what do you make of farside's complete reversal on her stance on vollkan and now her searching for more roleclaims?-
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Please your manic Volkan is scum I'm betting scum bussing or mislynch. Either way I'm betting scum on you.charter wrote:DGB, what alignment do you think farside has now?
DGB actually knows better. I'm sure someone else reading knows as well better. What you got buddy?unvote, vote farside
So regardless of vollkan's alignment, I am scum to you? You still vote vollkan though? You only vote vollkan again after I call you out on it, but you think I'm scum and the wagon on him is rubbish? Looks like this one is in the bag. (also add her inquisition about ABR's claim but didn't vote him over it)-
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Clearly you're lying, you don't have anything on me. I can prove it too.farside22 wrote:
Haha I hit a nerve. Awesome!charter wrote:farside22 wrote:
Please your manic Volkan is scum I'm betting scum bussing or mislynch. Either way I'm betting scum on you.charter wrote:DGB, what alignment do you think farside has now?
DGB actually knows better. I'm sure someone else reading knows as well better. What you got buddy?unvote, vote farside
So regardless of vollkan's alignment, I am scum to you? You still vote vollkan though? You only vote vollkan again after I call you out on it, but you think I'm scum and the wagon on him is rubbish? Looks like this one is in the bag. (also add her inquisition about ABR's claim but didn't vote him over it)
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When was this? It would be idiotic of me to bus a partner here with one scum already dead.farside22 wrote:
You think it's Carn still. Last time I saw charter scum he bussed his scum buddy hard. I'm thinking the say thing. Wish I had a laser gun to test my theory on him with.DrippingGoofball wrote:charter, are you CarnCarn's buddy?-
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Yes I did miss that it was hammer.farside22 wrote:
Someone missed my vote as a hammer.charter wrote:If it'll make you vote farside, sure.
DGB who else do you find to be town in this game?
Oh please, that wasn't a bus, that was distancing, and guess what it worked. Clearly I'm not trying anything close to that this game. If you mean the buddy I did bus day one, THEN HOW CAN YOU EXPLAIN NOT BUSSING ABR? Also, whoever it was in that game was obvscum and I can't believe it bought any town points for me.farside wrote:Family guy and don't even. Should I post the link where you went after ZONE every day including the day where only 2 of you were left as scum?