Newbie 736 (Game Over)

[Porkens]

YESSSS, join the dark side.

Siro, I don't know what a PBPA has to do with being too defensive. I'd LOVE a PBPA from you, by the way.

I wasn't trying to present a black and white choice, I appologize if that's how it reads.

[Sironigous]

Well, I'll make it if it's read completely... everyone agree?

Oh wait, Porkens. Whatcha mean by black and white?

[Cephrir]

Eighth Vote Count of Day 1:

ZEEnon 2 (Xtoxm, image)
Porkens 2 (LynchHimNotMe, Sironigous)

Xtoxm 1 (Moriarty147)
LynchHimNotMe 1 (IronTurkey)
Sironigous 1 (Porkens)

IronTurkey 0
image 0
Moriarty147 0
zindionne 0


Not Voting 2 (ZEEnon, zindionne)

5 to lynch.

I'll be looking into an IronTurkey replacement soonish.

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

this game is d.y..i...n....g

[image]

Mod: Is vote count right?

Porkens 1 (LynchHimNotMe, Sironigous)

It is now >.>

[ZEEnon]

Mod: Is vote count right?

Porkens 1 (LynchHimNotMe, Sironigous)

i noticed this as well .

[Cephrir]

Just a heads-up, I won't be around this weekend. Not that it's likely you guys will lynch anyone anytime soon.

[Porkens]

sigh

. Welp, I don't want the game to die. So, even though I think Sir is an

]obvious

choice for day 1 lynch, I'll be a helper.

Unvote, vote: ZEEnon

[ZEEnon]

An explanation would be nice. How can I defend myself if the only reason you give is that you want to be a 'helper'? What do you mean by a 'helper'? Are you hinting that you are helping your mafia partner quicklynch? The fact that your vote keeps changing comes off to me as anti-town, although you may just be a confused townsperson. Why would you not go with an

obvious

choice of yours? Although I do not see what is so obvious about Sironigous, it makes sense that you would vote for the person you see most suspicious, as well as share your suspicions with others.

[Porkens]

1. Why are you

only

asking why

I

am voting for you?

2. I'm not interested in your defense; I want to hang someone, to keep the game going, and you are closest.

3. I

tried

to lynch who I think is scum; and it killed the thread.

[ZEEnon]

1. Why are you

only

asking why

I

am voting for you?

2. I'm not interested in your defense; I want to hang someone, to keep the game going, and you are closest.

3. I

tried

to lynch who I think is scum; and it killed the thread.

1. I already asked xtoxm to explain his reasons and image is voting me because of my wall of text and my accidents.
2. You were as close to lynch as me, if you want to hang someone, hang yourself.
3.

[Porkens]

2.

That being said; come on people.

[ZEEnon]

Lynch all lurkers ! I wonder if we are allowed to vote seven people at a time ?

[Xtoxm]

Porkens, that's weak.

Unvote

As I said, there were a few things that suggested town, and he's active, and to be honest probably isn't a good D1 lynch at this point.

I think I would like to lynch Zind or Moriaty.

[ZEEnon]

Let's try and make people post. I'm going to start with the replacement. Aren't replacements supposed to be active since they volunteered to replace for someone?

Vote: Moriarty147

. I'd like to hear all your views on the game so far, as well as who you deem the most suspicious currently.

[Xtoxm]

Vote Moriaty

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

omgus-lal-

vote: ironturkey

this game is dying, what a bummer....

[Porkens]

Unvote, Vote: Moriarty147

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

so Turkey is getting a replacement.

Unvote Vote: Moriarty147

L-1 guys

[image]

I almost want to hammer just to get through D1. I think we should give Moriarty a chance to defend himself before lynching him. He's gone from 0 to L - 1 in less than 24 hours... Wow.

Also, Porkens, LHNM, and Xtoxm, do any of you have a reason for this, or are you all pretty much following ZEEnon's lead?

[Xtoxm]

Someone isn't paying attention.

[Moriarty147]

Well, the way activity is enforced in this game is strange, but whatever. It seems forcing people to L-1 is used as a substitute for conversation, which is really actually fine for lurkers, as you'd like to avoid those.

Anyway I'm sorry about putting this game on the backburner, I've been busy. Firstly

Unvote

, I'm not sure xtoxm is scum at the moment.

I really dislike some of the reasoning put forth lately. Sir claims that giving a PBPA = scummy, which is just downright strange (yes, this post is going to be a PBPA. These are quite often good when activity is low). ZEEnon unvoted xtoxm based on how he felt in another game, which, combined with everything else on ZEEnon, really isn't making me too happy.

Anyway, a PBPA:

Sironigous

- One of the thing that bothers me about how this D1 is panning out is that wagons are used to start conversation. Sometimes wagoning lurkers is necessary to get people to talk, but the way they've been used so far is going to make wagon analysis in the lategame a fair bit harder. Dislike some of his reasoning so far, but he's not my top target for scum at the moment.

ZEEnon

- ZEEnon on the other hand, is pegging my scumdar at the moment. Everything from overdefensiveness due to getting voted to L-2, to a possible slip here to many other scattered reasons. Quite easily my main target for being scum on D1.

image

- Good posts so far. I find the D1 wagon on him to be largely unjustified. So far I have no objections with him.

IronTurkey

- 5 posts in the thread, but there's still nothing objectionable. In fact, I agree with quite a few of them. No objections, either.

zindionne

- Lurk-happy, posts contain no useful information whatsoever. Claims that no lynch > lynch on D1, which is patently false. Would be happy with a zindionne lynch as well. In fact, I'd be even more happy in some ways, as at least ZEEnon is active >_>

LynchHimNotMe

- Another person who is acting quite scummy at times. Not sure what to make of him really, at one point he derides several lurkers (albeit with FoSes, which are near-worthless), and then at another moment he votes Porkens for

not considering a person's playstyle

. This is patently silly, if your playstyle is scummy, change it or get lynched. Trying to argue "but this person's playstyle is X or Y, so they are not scummy" will bite you in the ass if that person really DOES have a really bad playstyle as both scum and town. Other than that, pretty awful case on Porkens, but overall not enough for me to seriously consider him being scum. If he is scum, though, there's a very blatant connection between him and xtoxm.

Porkens

- So far, nothing objectionable. Appears to be trying to maintain activity, which is a good thing. Dislike the early D1 ""case"" on image based largely on semantics, but everything else you've done is good (though I'd really like some more reasoning behind some of your wagon jumps, even if they are just activity prods I'd like you to specify this). No objections, really.

xtoxm

- Hardly posts anything, posts contain barely any content, bloody hard to get a read on. Thinks I'm scum, has yet to present a case on me. Not sure what to make of him at the moment, though he is almost certainly scum if LynchHimNotMe is lynched (heh heh) and flips scum.

So I'm fairly comfortable with

##Vote: zindionne

. However, I am equally comfortable with lynching ZEEnon, and if needed, Sironigous and/or LynchHimNotMe, though I'd really rather see one of the first 2 lynched today. Wouldn't mind the activity to pick up a bit, either.

[ZEEnon]

ZEEnon

- ZEEnon on the other hand, is pegging my scumdar at the moment. Everything from overdefensiveness due to getting voted to L-2, to a possible slip here to many other scattered reasons.

I understand you can't hear the tone in which I want my words to be heard, but that SORRY was supposed to sound sarcastic, like SO-RRY. It's really not someone's fault if they sound pro-town. They might be purposely doing it, but if everyone sounds pro-town, does that make everyone scum? Also, wouldn't anyone get defensive on L-2 ? I believe that roles from townsperson-mafia would all defend themselves if they came up to that point. Also, please mention the 'other scattered reasons,' because i'd like a chance to explain what you are probably misunderstanding about them. Overall,

Unvote

. We got the activeness we were grilling him for, although I am deeply concerned about the person that placed the L-1 vote. I wasn't asking everyone to follow me when I placed my vote on Moriarty147, but at least it made him post useful information .

[image]

Porkens

- ... Dislike the early D1 ""case"" on image

Now now now, I never used the words "case" or "good" now did I?

ZEEnon seems to me to have been less scummy of late; therefore,

Unvote

. Add some token suspicion to LHNM for being fourth on a bandwagon without any reasoning.

FoS: LHNM

.

[ZEEnon]

MOD: I really think zindionne should be replaced. It has been nine days since his last post, and it was not even that meaningful.