Newbie 736 (Game Over)

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So, if you want to get out of day one without accidentally killing a townie, wouldn't it be better to vote No Lynch than to hammer Xtoxm?

[Sironigous]

Well, to be honest, it may be good...
No lynch gives mafia a free kill though. :S

And we still don't know the setup of the game. lol. doc or no doc? cop or no cop?

With that, I know I've been mostly unhelpful this game, and I know people have questions to ask me.

If you want, you guys can give me a list or something and I'll answer to the best of my ability. heh.

[Moriarty147]

So, if you want to get out of day one without accidentally killing a townie, wouldn't it be better to vote No Lynch than to hammer Xtoxm?

No. This sounds like a good idea in theory. However, unless you are absolutely certain that person is townie, no lynch is a terrible concept in almost all cases (there are some cases when it is optimal, but this is not one of them) as it gives the town strictly less information than a lynch, while giving scum a free kill at the same time.

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I wasn't suggesting that No Lynch was a good idea. I in fact agree that it is a bad idea. I merely stated that

if

zin wants to get out of day one without killing a townie, and is willing to wait until the (non-existent) deadline to achieve this, would it not be better to just vote No Lynch?

[Cephrir]

Seventh Vote Count of Day 1:

ZEEnon 3 (Xtoxm, image, Porkens)

Xtoxm 2 (ZEEnon, Moriarty147)

LynchHimNotMe 1 (IronTurkey)
Porkens 1 (LynchHimNotMe)

IronTurkey 0
image 0
Moriarty147 0
zindionne 0
Sironigous 0

Not Voting 2 (Sironigous, zindionne)

5 to lynch.

Edit 2/23: Prodding IronTurkey.

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

why is the case on Porkens being ignored?

does everyone really have nothing to say?

[Porkens]

Instead of commenting on my explanations (that you requested in your reasons for voting me) you've just said "thanks. My vote stands"

I'm asking you to comment on my explanations.

please respond.

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why is the case on Porkens being ignored?

The "case on Porkens" is being ignored because it is insubstantial... Unless I missed something big, your case against him is that he voted for Xtoxm who was lurking a little despite not explicitly believing him to be scum, and that he seems to be avoiding suspicion rather well...

[ZEEnon]

image

vote Xtoxm
vote DIonized
vote Sironigous

However, in post 58,

Therefore,

Unvote: Sironigous

and

Vote: zindionne.

sorry, i think i didn't update that one into my records.

As for other incorrect statements? There's your most recent one, for starters. IronTurkey points out another mistake of yours in post 88, and then you grabbed a quote from Xtoxm out of context in post 97:

I find Zee suspicious. Don't like his post style either, it's hard to read, which is anti-town.
Sir, what were you thinking when you said "that's what I think"?

..obviously he was thinking what
he said he was thinking, duh.

that isn't an incorrect statement.
we assume that he was thinking what he was thinking.
however, i didn't take into account that
he didn't state what he was thinking. that doesn't make my post incorrect .

[ZEEnon]

.. nobody posted at all today. o.O

[Porkens]

Game, thou shalt not die!!!

This has, by no measure, been the worst day 1 I've ever been part of. A lot actually got said, and there are a few avenues we've traveled down a bit.

I'm pretty glad that no one has had to claim, so far (yes, I've changed my mind). I think that, overall, strengthens the towns night-chances.

To me, Zeenon, image, Xtomx, an, sadly (:D) even, LHNM have all conducted themselves with a level of sincerity that gives them a pass for day 1.

IMHO, the scummiest thing to be doing right now is

not

voting. So i find myself again looking at Sironigous. Also, for maybe the first serious time, I'm looking at zindionne (his fifth post is so bad I can't believe it didn't really register to me before).

I propose this: Hang Sironigous. I'd be surprised if neither/both he nor zindionne are scum.

unvote, Vote: Sironigous

(P.S. if you just absolutely hate this plan or hate me, hang me)

[Porkens]

Ack!

EBWOP: This has

not

, by any measure, been the worst day 1...

[Sironigous]

I'm against it!

Vote: Porkens

To be honest, I really don't think you're scum though. You're just scum hunting. :S

I guess just pretend I'm going to hang you.

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@Porkens: Just last page you were proclaiming LHNM as your number one scum pick, and now you say he's in the clear. What made you change your mind?

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

I'm against it!

Vote: Porkens

To be honest, I really don't think you're scum though. You're just scum hunting. :S

I guess just pretend I'm going to hang you.

Porkens, i am still not entirely convinced about you...so i need you to talk more

FoS: Sironigus

why the OMGUS? and please share with us who you think is scum.

[ZEEnon]

I'm against it!

Vote: Porkens

To be honest, I really don't think you're scum though. You're just scum hunting. :S

I guess just pretend I'm going to hang you.

why would you vote someone if you don't think they are scum ? i find that a completely pointless thing to do .

FOS: Sironigous

[Porkens]

I'm against it!

Vote: Porkens

To be honest, I really don't think you're scum though. You're just scum hunting. :S

I guess just pretend I'm going to hang you.

...hang this man.

[Porkens]

@Porkens: Just last page you were proclaiming LHNM as your number one scum pick, and now you say he's in the clear. What made you change your mind?

Having meditated on the situation, my read of LHNM has changed. There's no "secret" information or anything I can point to.

Talk more? Honestly, I think I've been clear. Those folks "feel" town to me.

Sir does not.

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(P.S. if you just absolutely hate this plan or hate me, hang me)

I'm against it!

Vote: Porkens

You told people who didn't like your plan to hang you... You can't say you weren't expecting an OMGUS. You in fact asked for one. This is, in my opinion, the least scummy thing Sir has done all game.

Also, this seems to be a bit of a false dilemma. It's not lynch Sir or Porkens, there are seven other people who we could lynch instead.

[Xtoxm]

That is kinda an idiotic comment, but it's not scummy. And I hadn't noticed, but image brings up a valid point about you asking for it. I remain fairly confident Sir is pro-town.

There are 3 players I would currently support a lynch, or wagon, of. I think i've made clear who.

[Porkens]

I see nothing in his posts that would make me think Sir is town. But if it's just gut; I can relate to that.

I would agree with you all about the OMGUS being "asked for" IFF he had had his vote on anyone prior to that. Since he saw fit to be voting for no one until i put pressure on him; scum.

[Sironigous]

(P.S. if you just absolutely hate this plan or hate me, hang me)

Yeah... uh... That's why I'd vote for him?.. so that's an OMGUS? I mean, if you read the first line of my post there...

And I restate, I don't think Porkens is scum.

But wow, people were fast to jump on me. O_O

why the OMGUS? and please share with us who you think is scum.

To be honest, I have no reads with good backing information at the moment.

I mean sure, I have hunches, but they don't really mean anything right now.

[Porkens]

So your vote still means nothing.

And no one has jumped on you. you have 1 vote and an FOS. Over defensiveness.

You are scum.

[Sironigous]

Hmm...

Over defensiveness, huh? Uh... it's not like I did a PBPA (either player by player or post by post) attempting to defend myself innocent.

Of course, you could misconstrue my words as you please.

And yes, it does mean nothing...

Until you start convincing me it does...

[ZEEnon]

Unvote .

i'm in another game where i feel very much the same way that Xtoxm
probably felt when people started voting for him, so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt .