Open 100 - F + E x 2 + TOG OVER! before 712

[Tenchi]

There's a difference between preventing one's own lynch by convincing people to vote for a better case and preventing one's own lynch by appealing to emotion and asking people to "save" you. I feel Tenchi's doing the latter. Furthermore, the town can win posthumously. If my own death led to the town winning, then I would be okay with that. Arguing too hard that you should be kept alive for basically the sake of being kept alive is scummy.

1. I have answered most of the concerns against me. The strongest "reason" that people have against me is APPEALING TO EMOTION and the "scum admission" I was scum.

2. On the other hand, I have given behavioral reasons against people who are
--- A. Fixated on my lynch.
--- B. Failed to answer my queries against them. THIS IS A BIGGIE since it gives you guys less information come my flip and D3.
--- C. Failed to contribute to any other cases except mine.
--- D. Has shown behavioral changes upon taking on a new role.

3. I am not afraid of my own lynch generally. The problem is, it's almost a LYLO situation right now that I KNOW I cannot be lynched this day, especially when I can show that there are more worthy people who can be voted against.

As a responsible townie, I think I deserve some credit for actually helping out even though I have done "emotional things" when I started playing this game. I think it is unfair to call it self-preservation when I know my lynch would kill this game for Town and puts the game on scum hands.

vote count

tenchi (3): popsofctown, hp [leaves], haschel cedricson
hp [leaves] (2): howardroark, tenchi
wall-e (1): blakadder
haschel cedricson (1): wall-e

not voting: everyone else

with 9 alive it is 5 to lynch

[Tenchi]

In case I go:

I question the absence of the Budja love right now.

[Tenchi]

There's a difference between preventing one's own lynch by convincing people to vote for a better case and preventing one's own lynch by appealing to emotion and asking people to "save" you.

(Reread)

WHAT THE HELL???

I just presented this who new case on Page 22 (summarized above, details on page 22) and nobody even addressed it. EVEN YOU!

ARE YOU BLIND? I EVEN REBOLDED ON PAGE 24 THE EXISTENCE OF THE HP/POPS CASE!

[Tenchi]

Don't be a hypocrite Haschel Cedricson. I challenge you to address the merits of my case against them.

[Tenchi]

Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

We are within hours of the deadline resolving, and you do some jumping like this?!?!? That makes

Tenchi

the vote leader and you are responsible for his lynch at this point with your unvote.

FoS: Wall-E

.

Unless Wall-E really has NO plan of saving me. And Wall-E doesn't really believe I'm a townie.

Either that or he has this weird plan we don't know about. :\

[ThAdmiral]

because I'm paranoid now can someone confirm the vote-count at the top of the page and then day will end.

no voting/unvoting in the meantime...

[HowardRoark]

@ThAdmiral: I confirm vote count

[popsofctown]

because I'm paranoid now can someone confirm the vote-count at the top of the page and then day will end.

no voting/unvoting in the meantime...

thx for the legacy

[Wall-E]

Fairy tales are fun. So is rewriting history. But you know what's the most fun? Being honest about the events in the thread.

Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

We are within hours of the deadline resolving, and you do some jumping like this?!?!? That makes

Tenchi

the vote leader and you are responsible for his lynch at this point with your unvote.

FoS: Wall-E

.

That's a loaded question, because it assumes that Tenchi is definitely a townie, which I don't believe is the case.

But it appears that

Wall-E

does believe he is a townsperson

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"

::facepalm::

Why the fuck would you cut out Haschel's scummy play and then present my reaction to it as somehow unrelated? Are you trying to downplay what he did? Attempting to divert attention away from reality?

Here's how I remember events happening:

Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

If we're not going to switch to Seraphim/Howard, I would much rather see Tenchi lynched than Soveliss/hp.

Vote: Tenchi

.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

We are within hours of the deadline resolving, and you do some jumping like this?!?!? That makes

Tenchi

the vote leader and you are responsible for his lynch at this point with your unvote.

FoS: Wall-E

.

Haschel had plenty of time prior to my unvote to toss his vote onto Tenchi and guarantee Tenchi's lynch. THE VERY NEXT POST AFTER I UNVOTED, Haschel dropped a pithy little bundle of vote excuse and stepped right back on Tenchi's side of the teeter-totter.

No, for real. I had a million reasons to vote for Tenchi. Haschel's reason was... what? He'd rather see Tenchi dead than Soveliss/HP? Why?

Haschel: WHY would you rather see Tenchi dead than Soveliss/HP?

What was so compelling about my UNVOTE that made you want TO vote?

That's a loaded question, because it assumes that Tenchi is definitely a townie, which I don't believe is the case.

But it appears that

Wall-E

does believe he is a townsperson

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"

Howard: Why would I unvote Tenchi if I thought he was scum? Would you call a townie doing anything and everything to prevent his own mislynch at this stage in this game a bad idea?

I say it was who my vote landed

on

that was the motivation for his own vote, namely his scumbuddy Soveliss/HP.

Finally, why didn't anybody come to Tenchi's rescue like Howard is doing for Haschel? Remember that there are four scum and five town out there. It's amazing Tenchi didn't earn MORE votes at this stage in the game.

I would like to hear from HP about all this.

[popsofctown]

FoS: Wall-E

.

Are you playing this game with 2 accounts?

[Wall-E]

er, that was tagfail on my part

[Tenchi]

The Tagfail was pretty much easy to see if you were reading into somebody's posts.

Pops is selectively reading.

[Tenchi]

I say it was who my vote landed

on

that was the motivation for his own vote, namely his scumbuddy Soveliss/HP.

Do you really think that hyposcum Tenchi would bus Soveliss/HP knowing:

1. There's only two of us
2. There's another scum group who can take care of HP/me depending on who would live.

I'm not bussing Soveliss/HP and I'm not scum. Wall-E, I demand you show proof that we are together.

[popsofctown]

Demanding proof in a mafia game = phail

[Wall-E]

FoS: Wall-E

.

Are you playing this game with 2 accounts?

Pops is selectively reading.

I agree with this.

I also agree that having proof of anything in this game defeats the purpose of the game.

Hmm. Between you two...

Tenchi has mostly been guilty of textbook scumtells, all of which I've done as town. Pops, on the other hand, is clearly not very concerned with the content of the thread. I've never done

that

as town.

Unvote: Vote: popsofctown

[ThAdmiral]

vote count

tenchi (3): popsofctown, hp [leaves], haschel cedricson

hp [leaves] (2): howardroark, tenchi
wall-e (1): blakadder
haschel cedricson (1): wall-e

not voting: sekinj, jenethron

end of the day so THAT'S A LYNCH!

Tenchi was a...

Townie

NIGHT HAS NOW BEGUN

It will last for 72 hours, or until all the night actions are sent in

[ThAdmiral]

Day two arrives and you find two dead bodies:

Sekinj was finally found after a long absence...in pieces. A hand here, part of an ear their, a little bit of spleen in the corner. The rest looks to have been eaten.

He was a

mason

.

hp[leaves] is found shot, he is still just alive. "Not again!" he says. Then he dies

He was a

backup mason

.


IT IS NOW DAY 3

with 6 alive it is 4 to lynch

[ThAdmiral]

Whoops! Forgot to unlock it.

Thank you to those who pm'd me to let me know.

[popsofctown]

so, now there's more scum than town? i'm not so sure wall-e's town then, or anyone is.
everyone here is 4/5 likely to be scum.... trippy.

Perhaps it's better if we run this game by picking the two players we most surely think are town, since there's fewer town than scum.

[Tenchi]

[BAH]

That was so screwed up LOL.

Good luck guys. I hope you make good use of what's there. It's a long shot but you can still do it... er... I guess?

Good luck!

(So sorry HP! :\ )

[/BAH]

[Haschel Cedricson]

so, now there's more scum than town? i'm not so sure wall-e's town then, or anyone is.
everyone here is 4/5 likely to be scum.... trippy.

Perhaps it's better if we run this game

by picking the two players we most surely think are town

, since there's fewer town than scum.

Shouldn't it only be one player? Since the townies know that they are one of the two?

I'm rereading you after I'm no longer on dial-up Internet.

[popsofctown]

i meant as a town, we select two people we think to be town, and then lynch from the pool of the remainder. Even though only one of you guys is my other townie, it'd be most correct for us as a town to have two people in mind as the townies. It's important, because after we lynch scum, we need his disenfranchised partner to shoot scum and not town.

if you're rereading me because you think that post is a slip, it's not... i say "we run this game by picking two players ...", not each of us. I'm not correcting myself, i'm correcting you.

[hp [leaves]]

NOT AGAIN!


bah

[HowardRoark]

@

popsofctown

: Watch yourself . . . many people here see overstating your townieness as a scum tell.

I knew that

sekinj

was the other mason. That was clear upon my re-read of the thread replacing in. I was hoping that he wouldn't be inactive so that I could follow his vote.

Pending a re-read, but for now . . .

vote BlakAdder

Post or perish!

[Haschel Cedricson]

i meant as a town, we select two people we think to be town, and then lynch from the pool of the remainder. Even though only one of you guys is my other townie, it'd be most correct for us as a town to have two people in mind as the townies. It's important, because after we lynch scum, we need his disenfranchised partner to shoot scum and not town.

Gotcha. You also correctly gave the ratio of 4/5, so I'll accept that I misinterpreted.

I knew that sekinj was the other mason. That was clear upon my re-read of the thread replacing in. I was hoping that he wouldn't be inactive so that I could follow his vote.

Pending a re-read, but for now . . .

vote BlakAdder

It's a little late to go for lurkers, isn't it? Also, your statement about sekinj sounds a little like scum explaining the night kill. Thirdly, even if it was obvious that he was the other mason, that wouldn't necessarily make his scumhunting any better than everyone else's, and to announce an intention to follow a non-cop's vote feels wrong.

Vote: HowardRoark

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