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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:45 am

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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:55 am

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Tanarin seems a little too eager to get the heat off URoE.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:03 pm

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rofl, maybe I do need to re-read uroe again, but when I first read, it seemed most people were jumping him over "Stalling" a MC.

Let's look at the votes shal we?

KScope: Voted URoE after he tried to answer Xtoxm's question about what roles could possibly want to be lynched. I would still like to know how why he felt UROE was "Jumping out of windows."

zwet: His vote never actually counted, but he tied to vote URoE for "stalling" the MC, saying only scum would stall. As an aside he so far is the only one to actually claim his role and did so without even being asked.

DGB: Voted because he refused to claim (Post 127.) DGB then goes and kinda makes it feel as if the entire town wants a MC when at that point it was only zwet, Phate, and DGB. DGB has since switched to Tubby.

rofl: You voted uroe because you felt that DGB was bussing UROE. What exactly made you believe this is the result of scum bussing a partner and not scum making a townie look bad? Especially given that DGB switched up votes later on.

tajo: No reason given from what I can see.

So again, bad wagon is bad.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:07 pm

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:09 pm

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populartajo wrote:Tan, when did the only part of UROE's case being scum become "refusing to MC"?
Also where the hell is Tar?
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Mod: I am V/LA for at least the next week (can post, just not as much.)
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:09 pm

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Tanarin wrote:rofl, maybe I do need to re-read uroe again, but when I first read, it seemed most people were jumping him over "Stalling" a MC.

Let's look at the votes shal we?

KScope: Voted URoE after he tried to answer Xtoxm's question about what roles could possibly want to be lynched. I would still like to know how why he felt UROE was "Jumping out of windows."

zwet: His vote never actually counted, but he tied to vote URoE for "stalling" the MC, saying only scum would stall. As an aside he so far is the only one to actually claim his role and did so without even being asked.

DGB: Voted because he refused to claim (Post 127.) DGB then goes and kinda makes it feel as if the entire town wants a MC when at that point it was only zwet, Phate, and DGB. DGB has since switched to Tubby.

rofl: You voted uroe because you felt that DGB was bussing UROE. What exactly made you believe this is the result of scum bussing a partner and not scum making a townie look bad? Especially given that DGB switched up votes later on.

tajo: No reason given from what I can see.

So again, bad wagon is bad.
I dont think is a bad wagon. Can you reread UROE and his opinions of Tar/Kevy and come back with an opinion?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:10 pm

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Tarhalindur wrote:
populartajo wrote:Tan, when did the only part of UROE's case being scum become "refusing to MC"?
Also where the hell is Tar?
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Mod: I am V/LA for at least the next week (can post, just not as much.)
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:27 pm

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Tar is blowing up over here! Can you cut down on the cursing, please?
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:43 pm

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tajo: Seems like he is making a meta-call on Tar and Kevy to me. Now, while I can't speak about the TAR part, I have not seen anything that leads me to believe URoE is trying to cover for Kevy, as Kevy has so far come off as town to me as well. So he may indeed be calling it correctly and that we had a case of town on town bickering.

As far as his role guess on TAR, again, there is nothing to say URoE is wrong about this. I even point out in my fist notes post that there are plenty of roles that would want to see themselves lynched. Only one of which I mentioned, (Mad Gunman), is scum.

Tajo: So may I ask why you did vote for URoE as you are so far the only one who has not given a reason.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:59 pm

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UROE wrote:Tar plays like this in the beginning of most games,
and I am usually able to see town-Tar's thinking
, if he's thinking what I believe, it makes sense, but I know Kevy too, so I have reason to believe that this is genuine kevy play and not the scum tell Tar is making it out to be.
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r, based mostly on the fact that I can read what I think he is trying to do and it makes sense, but kevy isn't affected by the argument for the points he brought up in his last post.
Tanarin wrote:4) Tar: Your excuse to vote Kevy is very weak. Yes, he could easily fudge stuff, but him showing a possible testsetup (Which everyone has access to) is hardly speculating or inside info. I also don't get where Kev "let it slip" that Mafia didn't hit their intended target. All I gather from his posts up to that point is that he is surprised there were not more kills, which considering this is a xylbot setup, is weird. You then vote rofl for counterclaiming. Again xylbot can throw out "weaker" roles multiple times. This could easily mean we have multiple cops and odds are at least one of them are not sane.
Well that puts me up to about post 80. I'll read more later but I have a feeling I'll need to do a really deep read on TAR in the near future. I'm not liking what I am seeing from him ATM.
Tell me what do you think of this. And what part of Tar's behaviour in this game can produce town vibes...
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:13 pm

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tajo, the first quote it seems as if he is making a meta call on Tar. If this is because of the fact that he has played him before or done some research is another matter. The second quote seems as if he is trying to reason out possible roles that would explain his actions. This followed by a possible meta call on Tar.

As for what I said, do I believe the vote was weak and uncalled for, yes I do. Does it mean I think the opposite of URoE, no I don't. Reading TAR, it seems as if he is more paranoid and/or confused ATM about what is going on. His point about setup speculation would indeed be valid if it wasn't for the fact that you could just hop on IRC and see one of literally thousands of setups and at least get a feel of what we should expect to see. So I think URoE may indeed just be seeing a paranoid/confused townie and is calling it as such.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:25 pm

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@Tanarin. Well those quotes are way before the idea of Tar acting scummy on purpose came up.
Look my problem is the next one. Tar never acted protown in this game. I dont understand why UROE was so quick to give him townie status. Confused minds would put him at neutral, minimum. My other problem is that he never took a stance in the Tar-Kevy fight. Why?
Do you know UROE and how experienced would you consider him?
Ill wait for UROE and his comments/answers/opinions and such.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:30 pm

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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:34 pm

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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:15 pm

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populartajo wrote:@Tanarin. Well those quotes are way before the idea of Tar acting scummy on purpose came up.
Look my problem is the next one. Tar never acted protown in this game. I dont understand why UROE was so quick to give him townie status. Confused minds would put him at neutral, minimum. My other problem is that he never took a stance in the Tar-Kevy fight. Why?
Do you know UROE and how experienced would you consider him?
Ill wait for UROE and his comments/answers/opinions and such.
@All, Opinions of Tar claiming in his next post?
I took a stance, I said I thought it was both of them townies, just arguing over nothing...

Like I've said, my Tar-meta leads me to believe Tar is a townie in this game.

What other things do you need from me?

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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:29 pm

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URoE is pretty experienced, IMO, and I definitely agree with the case on him now. Tanarin, why are you defending him? The mass claim thing isn't the only case against him, you know.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:50 pm

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zwetschenwasser wrote:URoE is pretty experienced, IMO, and I definitely agree with the case on him now. Tanarin, why are you defending him? The mass claim thing isn't the only case against him, you know.
What case?

Are you drunk or this stupid?
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:56 pm

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No, you're just flailing scum.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:24 pm

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Zwet, what other case on him.? I am failing to see any other big case on him other than rofl thinking DGB was bussing URoE and possibly Kscope depending on how he answers my question. So since I fail at seeing the case on him, why don't YOU tell me what the case is on him?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:30 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:31 pm

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UnofficialRulerOfEveryone wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:URoE is pretty experienced, IMO, and I definitely agree with the case on him now. Tanarin, why are you defending him? The mass claim thing isn't the only case against him, you know.
What case?

Are you drunk or this stupid?
well we can add ad hom to the list
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:42 pm

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What's ad hom again?
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:10 pm

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attack the man

instead of trying to defend himself, he tries to get whatever you have on him thrown out on the grounds that you're "drunk or stupid"
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