Open 100 - F + E x 2 + TOG OVER! before 712

[Wall-E]

Tenchi: I will join you in requesting a deadline if you can present a case on myself or any other player that the other actives agree is strong enough to warrant further debate. I'll be online all day today and tomorrow.

vote count

tenchi (3): wall-e, popsofctown, hp [leaves]
wall-e (2): blakadder, tenchi
howardroark (1): haschel cedricson
hp [leaves] (1): howardroark

not voting: everyone else

with 9 alive it is 5 to lynch

[ThAdmiral]

deadline still about 3 days away

prods have been sent

[Wall-E]

EBWOQ:

Tenchi: I will join you in requesting a deadline

extension

if you can present a case on myself or any other player that the other actives agree is strong enough to warrant further debate. I'll be online all day today and tomorrow.

[Jenethron]

hi i am still here and will post tomorrow.

[ThAdmiral]

deadline in about 24 hours

[Tenchi]

I have said most of my points in Page 22

The thing is, only Wall-E bothered to address point against them. However, Wall-E didn't address other points on other people, or reacting whether it had merit or not.

I was thinking of self-voting myself to prove my innocence and it might put more weight to the arguments I presented.

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Wall-E: "A further debate" would be impossible if those people who are concerned: BH/Pops and HP/Soveliss, my two biggest suspects, continue to fixate on my lynch and don't address any of my points. Not to mention other townies who are ignoring my points as well.

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If it's between me or a no-lynch, I would pick a no-lynch.

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I check the vote count again and I saw that my vote on Wall-E is useless (I miscounted sorry).

Vote: HP/Soveliss

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Now, if I get lynched, or a no-lynch occurs, all I can hope for is scum get shot in the crossfire. Else, we're screwed.

[Wall-E]

i feel like you've been quarantined, tenchi.

your page 22 points seem like last-minute flailing, something we've all had to harden our hearts toward, unfortunately.

the quarantine bothers me a bit, but not enough to second-guess myself. i'm betting your partner is AWOL and the other scumteam is on your wagon. i'm hoping your lynch will be the tide-turner for this game.

[popsofctown]

we need to beat the clock with some Tenchi lynch guys.. or Seraphim lynch would be delightful too. Wall-E, would you deadline switch to Seraphim if he got a following? He's at two votes right now.

[hp [leaves]]

If it's between me or a no-lynch, I would pick a no-lynch.

This. I'm now 100% sure Tenchi is scum. And we need to lynch him. Also Pops is most likely his scumbuddy.

Because

4.

If discussion lags or Day goes on for too long, a deadline may be set. If no one has reached a majority at the deadline, the person with the most votes will be lynched given that half the remaining players are voting, otherwise it will be a no-lynch.

Tenchi has three votes. He will be lynched.

[Tenchi]

What is the basis of you thinking Pops is my scumbuddy, HP?

I don't think scum, in this situation, with only two people, against another scum group, can afford to bus each other.

Im thinking Pops and HP are on different teams. Both are scum.

I'm just banking on the votes of the other five players. They will either lynch me or save me.

@ Wall-E: I'm sorry but my post was really late. My computer died so I wasn't able to focus on the game. I really hope it doesn't end the next day, if it does, I feel I let you guys down. ARGH.

[Wall-E]

we need to beat the clock with some Tenchi lynch guys.. or Seraphim lynch would be delightful too. Wall-E, would you deadline switch to Seraphim if he got a following? He's at two votes right now.

Hmmm. Sure, why not. You only live once.

Unvote: Vote: Soveliss/HP

[Tenchi]

Um... I appreciate the help but...

What's the basis of this vote switch?

Right now we are 3-3. I need another Townie to save me. :\ Well two more. Or maybe some caring scum?

[Tenchi]

Nevermind, I miscounted.

3-2.

[Haschel Cedricson]

If we're not going to switch to Seraphim/Howard, I would much rather see Tenchi lynched than Soveliss/hp.

Vote: Tenchi

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[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP:

we need to beat the clock with some Tenchi lynch guys.. or Seraphim lynch would be delightful too. Wall-E, would you deadline switch to Seraphim if he got a following? He's at two votes right now.

Hmmm. Sure, why not. You only live once.

Unvote: Vote: Soveliss/HP

Wall-E, explain this. Why switch to Soveliss/hp when the post that appears to prompt this switching refers to another player entirely?

[Wall-E]

1) Too many people are "unsure" of a Tenchi lynch. Pops' attempt to get me off his wagon was the last bit of 'proof' I needed to convince me he was probably town.
2) Tenchi has been very active and helpful following my case against him.
3) With two obvtown players the scum will have to NK both of us, and there's a good chance they'll both attack me or Tenchi, leaving the other of us alive to scumhunt.


Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

I have a whole new scumlist after the last couple of pages

[Wall-E]

Nobody tried to save Tenchi this whole time. Now, suddenly, Soveliss is in trouble and someone hops onto Tenchi's wagon to try to save him. You've tipped your hand, Cederic.

[popsofctown]

Wall-E, who do you think is scum?

[HowardRoark]

QFT

Nobody tried to save Tenchi this whole time. Now, suddenly, Soveliss is in trouble and someone hops onto Tenchi's wagon to try to save him. You've tipped your hand, Cederic.

I'm not sold on Tenchi's innocence, but I think we may have found one pair of night killers. My patience has paid off.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Nobody tried to save Tenchi this whole time. Now, suddenly, Soveliss is in trouble and someone hops onto Tenchi's wagon to try to save him. You've tipped your hand, Cederic.

I'm not trying to "save" Soveliss/hp; I understand the case made against him. I just think Tenchi is a better lynch. Tenchi's demeanor now comes across as too self-preservationist, what with his statements like "I need another Townie to save me," "They will either lynch me or save me," and "If it's between me or a no-lynch, I would pick a no-lynch." In addition, remember when Tenchi did that long-ass post-by-post summary of the game? All he did was restate information already in the thread; he didn't bother to draw any conclusions from it. He didn't even place a vote at the end of it. That's scummy in my book, and if we're not going to lynch Seraphim/Howard (which is still my first choice, and I will go back to him if it looks at all possible to make him today's lynch), then the above tilts the Tenchi-Soveliss balance for me.

I will admit I am prone to confirmation bias, and the fact that the Soveliss case was first presented by my primary suspect makes me wary.

[Wall-E]

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"

I'm going to call you Obvscum and be done with it.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

[Wall-E]

hell, for that matter, what the deuce is wrong with being self-preservational in the first place?

[Haschel Cedricson]

There's a difference between preventing one's own lynch by convincing people to vote for a better case and preventing one's own lynch by appealing to emotion and asking people to "save" you. I feel Tenchi's doing the latter. Furthermore, the town can win posthumously. If my own death led to the town winning, then I would be okay with that. Arguing too hard that you should be kept alive for basically the sake of being kept alive is scummy.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP:

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"

That's a loaded question, because it assumes that Tenchi is definitely a townie, which I don't believe is the case.

[HowardRoark]

Soveliss is my other pick for the lynch today, so he gets my vote.

Unvote: Vote HaschelCedericson

We are within hours of the deadline resolving, and you do some jumping like this?!?!? That makes

Tenchi

the vote leader and you are responsible for his lynch at this point with your unvote.

FoS: Wall-E

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That's a loaded question, because it assumes that Tenchi is definitely a townie, which I don't believe is the case.

But it appears that

Wall-E

does believe he is a townsperson

How can you call a townie at this stage in the game trying to stop a myslynch "too self-preservational?"