Newbie 736 (Game Over)

[Porkens]

And I would appreciate an actual defense/explanation of your vote, Sironigous, not of other people's.

... Yeah, I don't have one. o_O... It seems like no one else had reasons for theirs either.

...wow.


I'll post more later whehn

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

hey guys, sorry i have been busy.
i highly doubt that what Sironigus did means he is scum...
my gut says that he is probably a village idiot

i will post more maybe friday night when i don't have to worry about school.
again, sorry!

[Cephrir]

Third Vote Count of Day 1:

Sironigous 2 (ZEEnon, Porkens)

image 1 (Xtoxm)
DIonized 1 (image)
ZEEnon 1 (zindionne)
LynchHimNotMe 1 (IronTurkey)

IronTurkey 0
Porkens 0
Xtoxm 0
zindionne 0

Not Voting 3 (LynchHimNotMe, Sironigous, DIonized)

5 to lynch.

[Xtoxm]

I find Zee suspicious. Don't like his post style either, it's hard to read, which is anti-town.

Sir, what were you thinking when you said "that's what I think"?

[Sironigous]

To be honest, when I wrote that I think I had something.

But... I have no idea what I was thinking then.

... It's like, I must've been staring at a piece of card board thinking I could discover the meaning of life with it.

Sorry about that.

[Porkens]

my gut says that he is probably a

village idiot

What do you mean by this?

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

I feel like he probably isn't scum because why would scum draw so much attention upon themselves this early? By village idiot, I mean someone who is probably just a red herring.

[ZEEnon]

seriously, only scum would continually
bring up the topic of my typing .
that is for ME to decide, and YOU to endure .
i don't like how you made my nickname 'Zee'
with those ugly lowercase 'e',
but you don't see me bringing it up and calling it anti-town,
so get a life. you'll have to deal with people in real life
that won't change how they feel
just because YOU have a problem with it .

by the way, i'm still not serious yet.
the only person i suspect is Sironigous,
and that is because of his bandwagon vote .
which isn't much to go on this early in the game .

[image]

LynchHim seems pretty convinced that Sir is just the village idiot, and keeps pressing the point. A cover? If Sir winds up being scum, I would place my bet on LynchHim being the scumbuddy. Also, he still has yet to cast a vote one way or another; perhaps trying to stay under the radar and avoid being recalled as the person who started/jumped on second/third/fourth/hammered the bandwagon on that poor townie day one?

And speaking of staying under the radar, zindionne has made one post this game, which consisted of five words. Lurkers seem suspicious to me; if you have nothing to hide, why aren't you talking? Therefore,

Unvote: Sironigous

(who I changed my vote to on post 34, which you missed in the vote count, mod...) and

Vote: zindionne

. I still am highly suspicious of Sir, but I would like to hear more from zindionne...

Oh, and obligatory

FoS: Sironigous

.

[Xtoxm]

Unvote Vote Zee

[ZEEnon]

i love your explanation,
it's very insightful .

[DIonized]

Everyone, my father has recently passed away and as such, I will not be able to commit my time to this game. I'm sorry for this, I would have enjoyed playing with all of you.

[Porkens]

Hey guys, first I'd like to give my condolences to DIonized and his family. I lost a close relative this year, and so I have some idea what a hard time this must be for you. I hope you find the strength to help yourself and your family through this difficult and horrible part of your lives.

----

Preamble

I want to give you a little insight into how I deal with ongoing Mafia games; I keep a notepad document with everyone's names and when something strikes me, I jot it down in the file under that person's name. I've been trying to do this more and more and keep my

Player by player analysis (PBPA)

posts to a minimum.

I'm telling you this because I have ideas about everyone in this game, but I'm not ready to share them all quite yet. I believe this will be a useful strategy to use against the scum. I wont withhold information, of course, but I'll keep it to myself until I think it's pertinent.

What is pertinent now

First of all; Image, to me, has come some way so far; Right off the bat; I will say that image's 'random' vote and initial defence of that vote were, and are, suspect. The vote itself doesn't carry much weight, but the fact that he initially tried to defend the randomness of his vote smacks, to me, of overdefensiveness.

He did, however, conduct himself in a logical manner after that, and it's my gut feeling that he's being genuine. I also really approve of going after lurkers.

Unvote

Fortunetly, someone else has taken over his previous role as "most scummy."

Over the last three pages, one person has really stood out as quite a bit scummier than the rest of you; ZEEnon.

ZEEnon (rep. Konsek pregame)

First, the good (questionable?):

• His unique prose aren't necessarily anti-town. It's clear to me that it works for him, and I don't find it that hard to read.
• His initial FoS seems strange to me, but that could be because I've played here a while and in the
  R
  andom
  V
  ote
  S
  tage it's just more common to see a vote.
• His 'advice' to Xtoxm could be interpreted many ways, but in this case I think it's just an honest comment. I honestly like how strongly he OMGUS'd LHNM.

But now, the bad:

• One comment really sticks out in my mind. In post 22 he says "well SORRY for sounding pro-town..." That's sarcasm I put in the scummy column. It's just so overtly put, I dunno.
• This happens again in post 25; "my goal is to find scum."
• And, after defending his decision to keep his vote on LHNM by saying "I don't suspect anyone else" and how he is SO dedicated to scum-hunting, as soon as an "I hate Pikachu" vote comes along; he unvotes!
• In post 38 he says "I find no use of it (FoS) either, but i'm just stating a majority opinion. This is in direct contradiction to his actions earleir.

At this point; I'd be happiest with a ZEEnon lynch.

Vote: ZEEnon

[zindionne]

I still am highly suspicious of Sir, but I would like to hear more from zindionne

hear me, i am


busy


reading up

[zindionne]

not muched has changed, I really hate day ones

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

LynchHim seems pretty convinced that Sir is just the village idiot,

and keeps pressing the point.

huh? Please don't put words in my mouth, thank you.

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

Everyone, my father has recently passed away and as such, I will not be able to commit my time to this game. I'm sorry for this, I would have enjoyed playing with all of you.

Sorry to hear that, I hope you all the best, I know it could be a tough time...

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

Porkens, I really like everything you've said about Zee. I was sure I wasn't the only one who thought what he said on Page 1 was scummy.

I still have a FoS on him and I'll go ahead and make that a

Vote: Zee

I do realize from past experience that people will call me scummy because I am following Porkens vote but I think my justifications are clear and I've explained my reasoning if you look back. So please, don't even bother trying to make anything out of it; it'll be a waste of everyone's time.

HOWEVER, we should keep in mind that Porkens is in no way clear, so we need to take everything he says with a grain of salt. (Even though, in this instance, I agree with Porkens about Zee)

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

sorry just realized I put Zee at L-1.

Unvote

Zee please come back and explain yourself.

P.S. sorry for quadruple post.

[Porkens]

I'd honestly like to see him at L-1 and ask for a claim from him.

[ZEEnon]

there is no point arguing,
you obviously seem to be definite
in your positions to lynch me ..
(before you lynch me, i'm going to try
and post all my views on the game so far)
i'll write back very soon,
i have to eat though.

[image]

There are only two people here who could be described as "definite in their positions to lynch you"; LynchHim seems to think you are scummy but not enough to warrant lynching, and zindionne's vote is still random, as far as I can tell. He has yet to say very much, and not added even information, let alone analysis.

However, I will be very interested to see your views on the game so far.

[ZEEnon]

this shows the voting patterns
of people so far .
i'm aware that doesn't always
mean anything, but it's nice to have for reference .

LynchHimNotMe

vote ZEEnon

zindionne

vote ZEEnon

image

vote Xtoxm
vote DIonized
vote Sironigous

ZEEnon

vote LynchHimNotMe
vote zindionne
vote Sironigous

DIonized

vote image

IronTurkey

vote LynchHimNotMe

Sironigous

vote IronTurkey
vote image

Porkens

vote image
vote ZEEnon

Xtoxm

vote image
vote ZEEnon

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i'm pretty sure on of the people
on my bandwagon are scum,
since i'm almost lynched anyways .

just one question, can people
that replace into games even be mafia ?
why would the moderator suggest to start
the game regardless of the three people
being replaced, if perhaps the scum
wasn't in the game yet ?
just me thinking out loud ..

anyways, bandwagon is a very
scumish thing to do .. just to let you know .
i think you should be more careful .

FoS: Xtoxm

It seems to me that if you suspect that Xtomx is trying to push the wagon forward because he's scum; you'd vote for him. If you think he's town making a bad move; you wouldn't FOS him.

you're are implying
that you would rather see me put
a random vote on someone then
for me to use an FoS on someone that
i have a reason to do so .

By saying the vote is random, you're asking us to take your word on the claim that you would have voted for whomever was last on the list.

this accusation came fairly early in the game
for something very minor .
it was his FIRST vote, and i think
he said random because it was technically
still the 'random voting stage' .

first of all, what you said sounded to me like you are trying to sound pro-town

i merely stated a fact .

In addition, you started getting really antsy after Xtoxm's vote which to me is clearly not a serious vote. Yet you became all tense and FoSed him.

when i FoS people, it's because i
want to let them know i'm watching them .
i don't use IGMEOY or other fancy
terms like that . i like to keep it simple .
who are YOU to say that i became tense ?
do you watch me through my window or something ?
i merely stated that it was a thing mafia would do,
and i had NO reason to suspect anyone
else even a little bit .
would you rather i have not posted anything ?
because besides suspecting Xtoxm,
i had nothing else to go on .

Sweet! Explanation time... By the way, hey guys.

here he mentions 'explanation time' .
i guess '...' signified his explanation .
i brought this up again because it bothers me
that he didn't even explain YET .

...wow.


I'll post more later whehn

it bothers me a lot when
people don't do what they say .
if a townsperson has a point
to say, they would POST it .
not completely forget about it .

not muched has changed, I really hate day ones

quite a lot has happened actually .
unless you are referring to your activity.

• His initial FoS seems strange to me, but that could be because I've played here a while and in the
  R
  andom
  V
  ote
  S
  tage it's just more common to see a vote.

this IS a newbie game afterall ..
of course you are going to
see things you haven't seen before.
(such as my typing)

Sironigous, that vote for image
without ANY clear explanation
is EXTREMELY suspicious .
it appears as a bandwagon vote,
and it is also the FOURTH one .
one more, and image will easily
be lynched, and for all we know thus far,
he is an innocent townie .

Unvote.
Vote: Sironigous

after careful inspection,
i agree, this DOES make me seem
like i'm protecting image (the player) .
however, (this may make it seem like
i'm trying to seem like i'm pro-town,
but i'm saying it regardless... )
i don't want to just watch while
a player gets lynched RIGHT at the
BEGINNING of the game (basically) .

by the way,
just because someone
tries to seem pro-town
doesn't necessarily mean they are
scum . if you are scum, you want
to seem innocent . but if you are innocent,
DON'T YOU WANT TO SEEM INNOCENT ?
so what is the problem when someone says something
like "well SORRY for sounding pro-town..."
or "my goal is to find scum." ?

I'd honestly like to see him at L-1

.. i bet you would .

LynchHim seems to think you are scummy but not enough to warrant lynching

ironic, he placed his vote on me.
i guess when you place your vote on
a player, it means you don't
think they are suspicious enough to be lynched .
i'll keep that in mind for future reference .

since there are no 'bah' posts,
i'd like to say ..
go for one of the people voting for me !
it has to be one of them.

[ZEEnon]

anyways, bandwagon is a very
scumish thing to do .. just to let you know .
i think you should be more careful .

FoS: Xtoxm

this somehow doesn't sound right to me...and you FoSing Xtoxm comes off as a defense of image

FoS: ZEEnon

ANOTHER weird double standard .
everyone blows up and goes psycho when
i start off MY posts with an FoS,
but when LynchHimNotMe uses FoS first,
nobody says ANYTHING .
in my opinion, the whole towns seems to be working against me. :P

[VoteAnyoneButMe]

in my opinion, the whole

towns

seems to be working against me.

you summed it up very nicely there...


ZEE, list your scumlist for us, would you? who do you think is most likely scum?