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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:53 pm

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with all due respect,
you are STILL misinterpreting
my posts . I never said anything
about YOUR FoS being discreet .
hell, I don't even think
I even mentioned your FoS .
I could care less if you FoS me,
that's your problem, not mine .
my goal is to find scum
without suspecting every single
person that defends themselves .
I think anyone would do that,
whether scum or not .
my vote didn't change because
I don't suspect anyone else .
it might change,
but you are getting a bit defensive
when I didn't remove my vote
although I clearly stated that I
think you are a townie, so obviously
I would remove it sooner or later .
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:57 pm

Post by ZEEnon »

on a side note .. its weird that
image has so many votes ..
and only through 'random voting' ..
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:04 pm

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My vote isn't random or 'random'
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:34 am

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Vote: ZEEnon


I hate pikachu
not a bot or alt account >< stop the paranoia!
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:44 am

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Pikachu hates you too.
Unvote.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:22 am

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Second Vote Count of Day 1:

image 3 (DIonized, Porkens, Xtoxm)

DIonized 1 (image)
ZEEnon 1 (zindionne)
zindionne 1 (ZEEnon)

IronTurkey 0
Sironigous 0
LynchHimNotMe 0
Porkens 0
Xtoxm 0

Not Voting 3 (IronTurkey, Sironigous, LynchHimNotMe)

5 to lynch.

Sirongous replaces astrosquibb, prodding IronTurkey.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:34 am

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Hey guys, just found out about my confirmation message.

Vote: IronTurkey


Prod the turkey onto the lynching platform?

I'mma read up on what I missed.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:46 am

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Actually...

Unvote


Vote: image


That's what I think....
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:29 am

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For the record FOSing is the most pointless thing ever. No one has any reason to be worried by an FOS as it (by it's very definition) is simply an unsubstantial accusation that could easily be better expressed through words and reasoning.

That being said: I will vote all FOS-ers starting with
Vote: LynchHimNotMe
.

Also: ZEEnon, type normal. Your "poetic" writing hurts my eyes and hampers your ability to communicate.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:32 pm

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Hey Mod, I don't think that Vote Count is right... It ignores a couple votes, and LynchHimNotMe is on there twice. Ah, and since it looks like it might be relevant to me soon... Are we allowed /bah posts?

Also, fourth person on a bandwagon? Very scummy, especially this early in Day One.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:58 pm

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Vote count fixed, I think.

image wrote:Are we allowed /bah posts?
the rules wrote:
7. If you die, you're dead. Do not talk until the game is over; this includes talking to living players outside the thread.
This was intended to apply to "Bah!" posts as well. I won't be angry or anything if anyone does make a bah post with no game-related content AT ALL WHATSOEVER, but I'd rather they didn't, just to avoid the issue.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:29 pm

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Okay, that's what I figured, just wanted to make sure.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:37 pm

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That's a lot of votes on image. I'll remove my pseudo-random one, read what I missed and revote later tonight.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:42 pm

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omg WOAH ! i'm EXTREMELY sorry for the triple post .
i will be away from a computer for a period of time,
and i will be using my iPod Touch to post .
sometimes it posts more than once,
so i apologize in advance for future reference .
(mod, could you please delete two of those posts?
they serve no purpose, and it bothers me that i'm the cause ..)
Done.

IronTurkey wrote:For the record FOSing is the most pointless thing ever. No one has any reason to be worried by an FOS as it (by it's very definition) is simply an unsubstantial accusation that could easily be better expressed through words and reasoning.
FoS is a tool utilized by this forum .
it allows a player be able to explain
themselves clearly without feeling pressured
with a vote. if they are scum,
they may reveal some hints/ scumtells
that may help us in the long run .
personally, i find no use of it either,
but i'm just stating a majority opinion .
IronTurkey wrote:Also: ZEEnon, type normal. Your "poetic" writing hurts my eyes and hampers your ability to communicate.
i tend to like how i type,
i find it aestetically pleasing (IN MY EYES)
and let's not bring that into discussion .
if you are going to go as far as to
say that it could be a scumtell,
i will automatically move my vote to you.
my typing has no effect on the way
this game is going to be played .
if ANYTHING, it HELPS you because
it decreases the distance that you have to
move your eyes, which would not hurt your eyes at all .
Sironigous wrote:Actually...

Unvote

Vote: image

That's what I think....
Sironigous, that vote for image
without ANY clear explanation
is EXTREMELY suspicious .
it appears as a bandwagon vote,
and it is also the FOURTH one .
one more, and image will easily
be lynched, and for all we know thus far,
he is an innocent townie .
Unvote.
Vote: Sironigous
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:57 pm

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A couple interesting trends here with the votes I think.

But anyways; only two vote on Sironigous right now and he certainly needs another one.

Vote: Sironigous


Explain yourself Sir.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:03 pm

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Porkens wrote:Explain yourself Sir.
haha, nice pun on his username. :]
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:45 pm

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Sweet! Explanation time... By the way, hey guys.

First I'd like to point out that Xtoxm did have the 3rd vote on image.

There are 2 mafia in the game. What makes him a less easier target than I?

Next, I'd like to point out the bandwagon led by the person who you were originally bandwagon-ing. ...wavy. Irony.

And, you guys aren't the only ones who have questions...

LynchHimNotMe, i placed my vote
on you as a tactic to pressure you,
(Zee)

Pressure?... for... what?... 1 vote of 5.... random (for all we know)
I would remove it sooner or later .
(Zee)

.. still doesn't make too much sense.
i tend to like how i type,
i find it aestetically pleasing (IN MY EYES)
and let's not bring that into discussion .
if you are going to go as far as to
say that it could be a scumtell,
(Zee)

...how could this be a scum tell?.. paranoia?
one more, and image will easily
be lynched, and for all we know thus far,
he is an innocent townie .
(Zee)

innocent with 3 votes barely into Day 1?...
someone must have something that I'm not getting.
Notice - only 2 mafia. ... A townie or townies voted for him too?

I'm going to go ahead and Vote: Image for calling his vote on Xtoxm random when, in fact, it isn't.
(Porkens)

...how wasn't it?

Unvote



sigh. I thought I posted earlier... must've ignored vote counts. ;/
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:58 pm

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My thoughts so far:
I got a lot of bad vibes from pretty much everyone on the bottom half of page 1 because of ad hom attacks, but I'm willing to overlook those as there was't much else for them to go on. Still seems like more attacking than what should have been.
Sironigous's 4th vote on image is very suspicious, and his "explanation post" doesn't explain his vote at all. If this were one of the real-life games I'm used to, Sironigous would be lynched by now. But for now:
Strong
FoS: Sironigous

And I would appreciate an actual defense/explanation of your vote, Sironigous, not of other people's.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:23 pm

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why the attack on me?
getting a bit too defensive .
you didn't really explain why
you voted image AT ALL, or if you did,
i didn't fully understand .

my pressure vote had nothing to do
with his vote being random.
for some reason he didn't understand
why i FoSed Xtoxm, when I CLEARLY
stated it was because of his bandwagon vote .

if that doesn't make sense,
you should pick up a language class .
(i can't quote due to my iTouch)

i never said that i viewed it
as a scumtell,
but yes, paranoid individuals
may view it that way ..

overall, my vote won't be changing .
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:25 pm

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haha i hate you DIonized,
you posted before me with one of my points . xD
but yeah, i totally agree with you .
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:00 am

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... wait... So.. I'm not supposed be defensive with 3 votes (and now an FOS) on me?
Eh... does that make sense?
...
I love how you're telling me to take a language class.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:01 am

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And I would appreciate an actual defense/explanation of your vote, Sironigous, not of other people's.

... Yeah, I don't have one. o_O... It seems like no one else had reasons for theirs either.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:06 am

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ZEEnon wrote:
IronTurkey wrote:For the record FOSing is the most pointless thing ever. No one has any reason to be worried by an FOS as it (by it's very definition) is simply an unsubstantial accusation that could easily be better expressed through words and reasoning.
FoS is a tool utilized by this forum .
it allows a player be able to explain
themselves clearly without feeling pressured
with a vote. if they are scum,
they may reveal some hints/ scumtells
that may help us in the long run .
personally, i find no use of it either,
but i'm just stating a majority opinion .
I am quite aware of the purpose of an FOS. They are however silly and not valuable. The same thing that is done with and FOS can easily be done with a simple question. Alternatively you could use a vote and actually pressure the person.
IronTurkey wrote:Also: ZEEnon, type normal. Your "poetic" writing hurts my eyes and hampers your ability to communicate.
i tend to like how i type,
i find it aestetically pleasing (IN MY EYES)
and let's not bring that into discussion .
if you are going to go as far as to
say that it could be a scumtell,
i will automatically move my vote to you.
my typing has no effect on the way
this game is going to be played .
if ANYTHING, it HELPS you because
it decreases the distance that you have to
move your eyes, which would not hurt your eyes at all .
It actually doesn't help. You are entitled to your opinion but I'm just telling you that it makes it more difficult to read and thus less likely to be read.
one more, and image will easily
be lynched, and for all we know thus far,
he is an innocent townie
Isn't it generally more appropriate to assume that another player is scum than that another player is town?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:56 pm

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IronTurkey wrote:Isn't it generally more appropriate to assume that another player is scum than that another player is town?
"innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell? I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch anyone until we have conclusively proved that they are scum, but the first assumption should be town, if for no other reason than the fact that if you don't know whether or not someone is scum, and you have no evidence one way or the other, there's only a 1 in 4 chance that they are.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:32 pm

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IronTurkey wrote:I am quite aware of the purpose of an FOS. They are however silly and not valuable. The same thing that is done with and FOS can easily be done with a simple question. Alternatively you could use a vote and actually pressure the person.
You have the right to your own opinion .
IronTurkey wrote:It actually doesn't help. You are entitled to your opinion but I'm just telling you that it makes it more difficult to read and thus less likely to be read.
Be my guest and ignore my posts then,
whatever makes you happy .
IronTurkey wrote:Isn't it generally more appropriate to assume that another player is scum than that another player is town?
i'm not so paranoid that i'm going
to assume every other play is scum .
when i start a game, everyone starts off
as a regular townsperson to me .

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