Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)


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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:16 pm

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Upon waking, everyone again proceeds to the band hall. However, when you arrive, you hear a scuffle in the background. It seems that two of you had shown up early to settle some differences. In the end, not being able to remember who started it, you come to find that there are eight of you still left.

Wait? Wasn't that how many of you were left yesterday? Seems like you were all stubborn enough to show up for another day.

Day 3 begins, with 8 alive, 5 votes will end the day.

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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:23 pm

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yawn

morning town

so what happened last night, gamma?
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:26 am

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Yes, do tell. Who did you shoot/attempt to shoot?
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:02 am

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Well, no news is good news.

" It seems that two of you had shown up early to settle some differences. In the end, not being able to remember who started it, you come to find that there are eight of you still left. " not sure what that means.

Gamma think before you answer that
If you were blocked.

1) if you were targetting a townie and got blocked the scum may unblock you
2) if you targetted scum, they will know to keep blocking your

If you weren't blocked then of course it might be good for the town to know, but I am of the train of thought that a vig works best unshackled.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:20 am

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Assuming Gamma is a vig, and not an SK. Which is still open to debate.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:53 am

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trumpet of doom, why are you not dead
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:11 am

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So if you targetted ToD does the narrative imply he targetted you.

two people arguing.

the only thingis unless i am mistaken you would BOTH be dead.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:53 am

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EBWOP

So if you targetted ToD, does the narrative imply he targetted you?

two people arguing in it.

the only thing is unless i am mistaken you would BOTH be dead if he was scum and targetted you and you were a vig/SK and you targetted him.

I would say someone body guard
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:54 am

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EBWOP

So if you targetted ToD, does the narrative imply he targetted you?

two people arguing in it.

the only thing is unless i am mistaken you would BOTH be dead if he was scum and targetted you and you were a vig/SK and you targetted him.

I would say someone protected him and or block you or vice versa
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:37 am

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Or we canceled each other out.

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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:40 am

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ToD apparently being unkillable leads me to think Godfather/Serial Killer.
However, if, as the daystart flavour implies, Gamma is also unkillable, that leads me to think Serial Killer.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:59 am

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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:16 pm

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Unvote: Vote: Trumpet of Doom


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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:22 pm

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...Why should I be dead?

Oh, Gamma tried to kill me and got blocked somehow?

Well that answers that question. But in that case, why the hell did you try to kill me? What did I do that made you want me to be dead?
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:35 pm

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I see WIT's recent posts as trying to distance himself from his previous Mafia RB speculation/possible inside knowledge, which many people (I'm rethinking not being among that group) found scummy. You know, based on the failed NK, I bet there is a Mafia RB'er. And I bet WIT knew all about it. And now he's stopped touting that horn because he knows it'll make him look bad. Wait a minute--horn? Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have a brass player!

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Additionally, why is everyone hopping on the ToD wagon so fast? I haven't found him scummy at all. The mod just came out and said the flavor didn't necessarily indicate anything about him being unnightkillable.

Now, the lack of a Gamma kill could be any number of things, and I'm not going to rule any of them out. But in light of Tony's change of tune about the RB'er, I'm inclined to believe it was a mafia RB.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:57 pm

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I have always believed and still do that the scum are likely to have a blocker.

It is the most commmon scum role.

especially in games with Vig.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:58 pm

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Vote ToD
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:03 pm

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reasons

1. Wall'E claims to have reasons
2. Gamma who is at the very least unlikely to be scum wants him dead
3. RF who i have long suspected (since the nekka days defends him)
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:24 pm

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But you do not find anything he has said scummy?
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:24 pm

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EBWOP. I hope you know that's L-1.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:12 pm

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Having now taken a couple of hours to sit down and think through the situation, I can think of three (3) reasons why I'm not dead even though Gamma claims to have tried to NK me. These would be that we have:

Two docs (virtually impossible in a 12-player game where we have not been led to expect such a thing)

OR

A town RB who (correctly) distrusted Gamma's scum-finding abilities (relatively improbable, IMO)

OR

A mafia RB who lent perhaps a bit more credence to Gamma's skills than is really deserved (most likely, especially since somebody *cough*WhereIsTony*cough* was speculating about it D1)

There are, naturally, the options that Gamma either submitted somebody else as his kill choice or didn't send one in at all, but I find these difficult to believe - Gamma doesn't seem like the type to miss a night choice, he has (we think) no reason to lie, and if he tried to kill someone else, we still have the same question of "why aren't they dead?"

I haven't seen anything to cut down on Tony's scumminess or cause anyone else to leapfrog past him, so I think I'll join RF and
vote: WhereIsTony.


And since you've all driven me to L-1, I suppose this is as good a time as any for me to claim...

I am a
Bari Sax
player. My PM seems to hint I'm a miller, but it doesn't outright tell me so.
WhereIsTony wrote:I have always believed and still do that the scum are likely to have a blocker.

It is the most commmon scum role.

especially in games with Vig.

Vote ToD

reasons

1. Wall'E claims to have reasons
2. Gamma who is at the very least unlikely to be scum wants him dead
3. RF who i have long suspected (since the nekka days defends him)
Strictly speaking, the most common scum role is goon, and I'd guess that after that, next most common is godfather. And your reasons for voting me are... suspect. Sure, you're willing to blindly follow Wall-E - oh, wait a minute - and you seem to be forgetting Gamma's previously demonstrated brilliance at finding scum to vig. [sarcasm] You're making yourself look better and better, Tony. [/sarcasm] Oh, and there's more: You say you've suspected RF "since the Nekka days," but check this out: Here, you have her listed not first, not second, not third, but... *counts on fingers*
eighth?
How is that being suspicious of her? You're not helping your case much, Tony. (And thank you, RF, for pointing out what Tony has
not
listed as any of his reasons for voting me.)
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:27 pm

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I'm a little thrown off by Wall-E claiming to have "reasons" though.
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:29 pm

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EBWOP - Oh...duh, just realized something. I need some time to think about this.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:43 am

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Resta was lower ONLY during the time I was more certain that Wall-E was scum. Wall E however has not seemed Scummy since your "case" against Netlava, in which you gave up a non-participating Scum Buddy in order to make yourself appear more town. All the while setting up a weak case against a townie (me)

So now you are claiming miller.....

Lol, JIC a cop has looked at you.

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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:44 am

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Oh wait you are saying that your Role PM implied miller, but did not say it.

Anyone else got an implied Role?

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