Mini 727 - Mafia in Standardville - Game Over

[Lowell]

This is going to be a horrible statement to try to defend, but...

I don't actually think my content contribution is so much lower than some other players. I don't post as often but I have some posts that are pretty clear. Lynx and artem are looking for scapegoat.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Are you joking me? I wasn't even suspicious of you. Thats Artem. I just said a very simple non-game related point. If you're not gonna play, then get a replacement. You said yourself you haven't been paying attention to the game and you don't have a strong foothold in it. Which isn't exactly helping your contribution statement.

[Artem]

If there is something to the lynx case, however, I think artem is doing a great job of derailment.

You're not paying close attention to the game, but enough to know about the Lynx case? Townies have more motivation to pay very close attention to the game because they are trying to find scum. The way you're playing is paying enough attention to know who's getting bandwagoned, but not enough to do any scumhunting yourself.

Also, I'm doing a good job derailing?? Because other players are so keen on leaving Lynx wagon and going after you?? What makes you think we can't look at both you and Lynx at the same time?

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Lynx the Antithesis (4) - Darox, Panzerjager, Tubby216, Charter
Darox (1) - Lynx the Antithesis
Lowell (1) - Artem

Not Voting (4) - Master Ruck, Danchaofan, Lowell, Artifex

[Darox]

Primary mover? Haha. Far from it. On Day 2 you layed your vote on me with my Charter vote. You were looking for any little thing to get your vote right back on me. After that you don't even come back until the prod adding completely nothing to your case(not pushing the wagon whatsoever). Panzer's the one who got the ball rolling. Tubby jumped on saying he agrees with "Panzer's" case, not Darox's. Then, Charter jumps on which just looks like a pressure vote. So in reality, your reasons were used by Panzer, but Panzer's the one who got the wagon going. You just sat back obviously by your lack of anything to say.

You're absolutely right, I haven't said anything against you.

[charter]

Darox, if Lynx is scum, who would you say are his buddies?

[Artifex]

@Lowell- how's artem looking for a scapegoat? He isnt in any danger. If you mean that he's trying to save Lynx from lynching for scummy reasons, does that mean you don't believe charter's claim? Cause he's said artem is town.

[Danchaofan]

/prod pick-up
sorry I haven't posted I've been really busy irl...

[charter]

unvote, vote Panzer

He is scum. End of story.

[PJ.]

How am I scum? This is TWICE that you have indeed jumped off of a wagon to try and lynch me. I'm starting to think that you are trying to use the emotions from wagons in order to get a mislynch on me.

Stop playing Anti-Town Charter.

[charter]

Because I'm not giving up on my scumdar this game. It just slaughtered me in another game, not going to make the same mistake again.

And I've already pointed out how you're scum, you didn't really explain it, my guess is because you're scum and there is no logical town explaination.

[PJ.]

Dude, we already argued this, I have explained it. It's you having a pissing contest with me. I already gave up. You're the bigger man you 6 foot 7 octopus now let's actually lynch scum. Put your vote back on Lynx.

[charter]

No, it's not a pissing contest. I made a valid case and I think it holds water and I'm not going to give up so easily this game.

I only voted lynx for pressure, and he didn't react bad to it in my eyes.

[charter]

Actually, lynx did react kind of poorly.

[PJ.]

Lol, C'mon charter. Just admit it. Your case held 0 water. Your voting me as your own personal hooray, not scumhunting.

Put you vote back on the scummiest player(lynx).

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Why do you keep bringing that same point up again again, Panzer? I don't understand where you're getting the "pissing contest" reasons from. He actually had a case on you.

Now Charter, how did it turn from I reacted alright to poorly now. What exactly was said that makes you think I reacted poorly to your obvious pressure vote or the wagon in general? And if you're that easily influenced by Panzer's lack of reasoning and thinking I feel somewhat bad for you.

[Artem]

Confirm vote: Lowell

He's done very little to address my points in posts 571 and 602.

[charter]

I forgot how long ago I put my vote on you. I actually went back and looked after that first statement and found that since then you've not been very impressive so I corrected myself.

And yes, Panzer's repeating pissing contest doesn't make that actually the case. And I've used appeals like that as town and scum before, so it's not going to make me drop my case. I wish I had played mafia with Panzer before, but I've only ever played with Lowell in this crowd.

I guess to clarify a little, it's not that Lynx can't be scum, but I feel there's a stronger case on Panzer, if Lynx is scum I have no clue who his partners are and if Lynx is town and we lynch him I just see us crash and burning in a big firey mess.

[tubby216]

see i don't get it charter is lynx is scummy and panzer is scummy why not focus on lynx and then go after panzer tomorrow as his partner? I mean what your doing now looks awfully suspicious. It appears to be alot of misdirection and running a smoke screen to save lynx.

so either both panzer and lynx are scum,
or
lynx is scum panzer is innocent and you are tryin to save your buddy.


either way my vote will stay on lynx

[charter]

Tubby, they are both scummy. Panzer is just scummier. And as to why not focus on lynx and go after panzer tomorrow? I've been going after panzer for a while, no one is interested. I don't see this changing tomorrow, especially if Lynx is a mislynch, that means that tomorrow is almost certainly lylo and I don't see him getting lynched tomorrow.

And those two scenarios leave out the possible Panzer scum and Lynx town. I think this is right up there with both being scum. Why do you not even consider this one?

[Lynx The Antithesis]

see i don't get it charter is lynx is scummy and panzer is scummy why not focus on lynx and then go after panzer tomorrow as his partner? I mean what your doing now looks awfully suspicious. It appears to be alot of misdirection and running a smoke screen to save lynx.

so either both panzer and lynx are scum,
or
lynx is scum panzer is innocent and you are tryin to save your buddy.


either way my vote will stay on lynx

This is terrible logic because it's very closed minded. Both scenarios you cast me as scum. There's no evidence or trace of me and Panzer being scum partners either. If I didn't have some lingering suspicion of Darox's claim and I didn't want to press him to talk more, I'd probably have my vote on Panzer as well. Why shouldn't Charter go after the one he feels is most scummy today though? Who are you gonna be looking at if you lynch and then I flip town?

And I'm getting more suspicious of you the more we go on Tubby. You've hopped on both the Xdaamno and my own wagon while doing little in the way of scum hunting.

Lowell's lack of addressing any of Artem's posts and handling of this game is very poor. I considered his inactivity a null tell, but now I'm getting more suspicious of him with his recent string of post proposing a prety absurd theory. I'm not sure if he's just not paying attention. Overall it's not townie behavior.

I'm still worried about Darox. Panzer's posts don't come off townish to me and I think Charter's case still holds merit.

Charter's last few posts come off much more townie to me. His dilemma of choice seems sincere to me and I'd place him as a townie now. I've believed for awhile now that Artem's town. Artifex is another I'd chalk up as town more as a feeling than anything. Master Ruck I'm a little more unsure of, but I'd probably put him towards town as well. Dan's a no read though right now.

[Darox]

Charter, right now I would probably say Dancho, but it's not a strong feeling at the moment.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Darox, I'm gonna pose the same question to you as I did Tubby. Who would you be looking at if I'm lynched and then I turn up town?

[tubby216]

if you flipp town probably charter.

the more i think about it the less charter's hider claim holds water.

the answers he gave me seem to be a lil like givin himself an out incase you do flip town.

[PJ.]

I'm with tubby 100% on this, and actually I'm gonna go out and

Unvote, Vote:Charter

You're right, I shouldn't buy your claim 100%, Artem could possibly be town since as scum, you know everyone's alignment. Also, Hider is an obscure way to use that knowledge and say I just kept clearing townies.

Your vote on me has little do with your supposed case and more to do with distancing yourself from the wagon, as you did with the Daamno wagon.

More votes on charter please.