Mini 732: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Mafia (Game Over!)

[Danchaofan]

Also,

FoS: DanChaoFan

. How about we lynch those that we think are scum, hmm? It's a possibility that everyone on your don't-lynch list is anti-town. So don't limit options due to role.

Since there's no discussion that was a lynch proposal based on the night actions that occurred and considering what we could do in the next night.

[TonyMontana]

I am at L-1

[hasdgfas]

The fact that you were attempting a joke is obvious; the useage of the word 'scumslip', however, still pings my scumdar. It indicates, well, a scum POV.

You just used the word scumslip. OBVSCUM!

it's not the fact that you used the word scumslip, it's the fact that you said you might make them. Town don't make scumslips, they may say things that sound scummy, but they're not scumslips.

[TonyMontana]

The fact that you were attempting a joke is obvious; the useage of the word 'scumslip', however, still pings my scumdar. It indicates, well, a scum POV.

You just used the word scumslip. OBVSCUM!

it's not the fact that you used the word scumslip, it's the fact that you said you might make them. Town don't make scumslips, they may say things that sound scummy, but they're not scumslips.

I know what a scumslip is.

[TonyMontana]

it's the fact that you said you might make them.

If you believe I did, then I don't believe I can possibly reach you intellectually.

[Master Ruck]

I am at L-1

No, you are at L-2. Good job on reading the votes.

[Master Ruck]

Oh, no, actually, tony has a point. If porochaz's vote on tony automatically uses both votes, then tony is at L-1. If poro has to say double vote, then tony is at L-2. I've seen both cases been used in games, so I'm not sure which one is in action here. Can someone establish which doublevote rule we're playing by?

[Plum]

Oh, no, actually, tony has a point. If porochaz's vote on tony automatically uses both votes, then tony is at L-1. If poro has to say double vote, then tony is at L-2. I've seen both cases been used in games, so I'm not sure which one is in action here. Can someone establish which doublevote rule we're playing by?

Pretty sure it's the former, if I recall the past votecounts correctly. And I'd forgotten Porochaz's double vote, so I'm now very glad that I didn't accidentally prematurely hammer TM last night thinking my vote would only put him at L-1.

[hasdgfas]

it's the fact that you said you might make them.

If you believe I did, then I don't believe I can possibly reach you intellectually.

Then what was it, Tony? How am I supposed to believe you when you're not explaining this?

[TonyMontana]

it's the fact that you said you might make them.

If you believe I did, then I don't believe I can possibly reach you intellectually.

Then what was it, Tony? How am I supposed to believe you when you're not explaining this?

I don't know how to explain satire.

I pointed out that porochaz pre-emptivly relinquishing himself from correcting drunken mistakes was anti-town, then exemplified it by making an exaggerated reason to not correct mistakes, as to expose his faults (read: satire)

[TonyMontana]

Porochaz - Bad Horse Ensemble (Doublevoter)
You're just a simple trio of messengers by day
You use your strength in numbers to gain greater say
Your vote, it counts for double, to help you in your play
So use it well, until you're hoarse
Vote whom you like, even Bad Horse!

I'm pretty sure his vote is double automatically, hence

L-1

[Gorrad]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

[TonyMontana]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

Dictionary says the same thing, but easier to point out.
satire |ˈsaˌtīr|
noun
the use of

humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule

to expose and criticize people's

stupidity or vices

, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. See note at wit .

Learn words yourself.

[TonyMontana]

Meh, I could've just quoted your quote....

[Megatheory]

I know what a scumslip is.

So why would you admit to making them if you were town? Using the word "scumslip" in the manner you did suggests that you are scum because it is literally impossible for a townie to make that kind of mistake.

[TonyMontana]

I know what a scumslip is.

So why would you admit to making them if you were town? Using the word "scumslip" in the manner you did suggests that you are scum because it is literally impossible for a townie to make that kind of mistake.

If i actually meant what i was saying, i would agree with you.
But since I was exaggerating Poro's arguments for ridicule's sake, it's moot.

[Gorrad]

From Wikipedia: "Satire is often strictly defined as a literary genre or form; although, in practice, it is also found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, ideally with the intent to bring about improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, the purpose of satire is not primarily humour in itself so much as an attack on something of which the author strongly disapproves, using the weapon of wit."

Learn what the words you say mean before you say them. What you said could not be in any way taken as satire. Sarcasm, perhaps, or mocking, if we are to believe you, but not satire.

Dictionary says the same thing, but easier to point out.
satire |ˈsaˌtīr|
noun
the use of

humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule

to expose and criticize people's

stupidity or vices

, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues. See note at wit .

Learn words yourself.

Yet what you said was not funny, ironic, or exaggerated. There's a possibility it might be labeled as ridicule, maybe. One thing's certain, it had no element of wit.

All this argument is moot, though, as what you said was never meant as you claim. You're back-pedaling, and poorly. I'm just giving you a hard time over word choice.

[TonyMontana]

Yet what you said was not funny, ironic, or exaggerated. There's a possibility it might be labeled as ridicule, maybe. One thing's certain, it had no element of wit.

All this argument is moot, though, as what you said was never meant as you claim. You're back-pedaling, and poorly. I'm just giving you a hard time over word choice.

It was humour, even though you didn't find it funny.
Irony, maybe not.
I exaggerated my imitation of prozac.
And all as ridicule.

You're the one back-pedalling, because you know you're wrong on the definition.
It's not moot, if you can't understand the context of what I was saying.

[Rishi]

Running late for work because I had to make a long post in another thread. Will comment on this Tony Montana implosion (and any other issues) over the weekend.

[Gorrad]

I'm at con this weekend, so very low chance of posting until Sunday evening at the latest.

[hasdgfas]

Here Tony, I'll quote your whole post.

What he said. I post drunk frequently, I can still play the game, you just have to read throught the spelling mistakes.

I can read through spelling mistakes. Grammar mistakes must be clarified.
And saying pre-emptivly you won't repeat yourself when drunk is anti-town.

Btw, town, if i make any scumslips while drunk, I'm just gonna ignore you all.

How is this, as you say, "blatantly obvious satire"? It's apparently not obvious at all if you're the only one who thinks so.

[TonyMontana]

Here Tony, I'll quote your whole post.

What he said. I post drunk frequently, I can still play the game, you just have to read throught the spelling mistakes.

I can read through spelling mistakes. Grammar mistakes must be clarified.
And saying pre-emptivly you won't repeat yourself when drunk is anti-town.

Btw, town, if i make any scumslips while drunk, I'm just gonna ignore you all.

How is this, as you say, "blatantly obvious satire"? It's apparently not obvious at all if you're the only one who thinks so.

I guess not...
I take it you still don't understand the correlation then?

[Malyss]

Considering some of the thoughts that I have had on the dynamics of how the scum failed to have a kill on N0, I am not entirely opposed to a Tony Montana lynch.

I just want a chance to go over things.

Right now, the argument over satire is muddying the waters and I’m going to need a moment or two to wade through it later tonight or tomorrow.

[Porochaz]

agreed,

vote TM

and btw, my grammer will also take a hit as is prone when drunk. If it doesnt make sense I will repeat but it'll be my judgement call. If it does you'll just live with it or go into a screaming blubbering mess rocking in the corner.

Christ, what's your problem, is anybody arguing with you about something you wrote? Are you 13 and really proud that you post while drunk?
Unless you want to argue that what dan said made sense, how bout you stfu about it.

Yes, you called me antitown, Im saying if your a little less stuck up, then its not a problem. I dont care, the fact is I do come onto the site whilst drunk, its something I do, Im not saying Im proud about it. Im telling you to deal with it. Incidentally I dont remember or care if I had a problem with what dan said. (Generally I dont remember things which werent that important) Just that you were a bit of a dick about it.

Reading the rest of the posts.

[Porochaz]

Ok I forgot I made a drunk post here, but its a good un anyway. I dont see a problem of an early hammah in this case, I think the slip alone is enough, he reminds us in bold hes at L-1, why? It was already stated. My vote essentially counts for double.