Past Ages Mafia - Game Over

[MacavityLock]

See, this is why we should do this now. My first thought was that the bandwagon's "focus" should be the one to claim, with the "non-focus" having the option to, or something like that. 3 different opinions in first 3 posts about it.

P.S. Emp, I think we can all figure out who "Empking's Alt" is :}

[populartajo]

Hi all.

Vote: ortolan

. He confuses me.

Too bad I don't know my second head. I'm Dutch and male, what about you?

Hi Lawrencelot.
Why is ortolan confusing you?

[Kmd4390]

Actually, now that I think about it that brings up an interesting question. When we're close to a lynch, how should we deal with claims? I think it makes sense to formally decide this before we get near a bandwagon that would allow scum to manipulate claim process based on who likely lynch will be.

I'd say only the scummy player needs to claim, but I don't want to see a power role lynched just for being attached to a scummy player, so I guess both should claim. Or maybe the scummy player should claim and the second head should answer "yes" or "no" to claiming without adding anything that the scum can use.

[populartajo]

See, this is why we should do this now. My first thought was that the bandwagon's "focus" should be the one to claim, with the "non-focus" having the option to, or something like that. 3 different opinions in first 3 posts about it.

P.S. Emp, I think we can all figure out who "Empking's Alt" is :}

What is the decision we are talking about?

[Empking]

Actually, now that I think about it that brings up an interesting question. When we're close to a lynch, how should we deal with claims? I think it makes sense to formally decide this before we get near a bandwagon that would allow scum to manipulate claim process based on who likely lynch will be.

I'd say only the scummy player needs to claim, but I don't want to see a power role lynched just for being attached to a scummy player, so I guess both should claim. Or maybe the scummy player should claim and the second head should answer "yes" or "no" to claiming without adding anything that the scum can use.

Why should the scummy player claim first? (I guess I just don't understand why.)

[Raging Rabbit]

Actually, now that I think about it that brings up an interesting question. When we're close to a lynch, how should we deal with claims? I think it makes sense to formally decide this before we get near a bandwagon that would allow scum to manipulate claim process based on who likely lynch will be.

I'd say only the scummy player needs to claim, but I don't want to see a power role lynched just for being attached to a scummy player, so I guess both should claim. Or maybe the scummy player should claim and the second head should answer "yes" or "no" to claiming without adding anything that the scum can use.

Why should the scummy player claim first? (I guess I just don't understand why.)

'Cause if the other head's still alive tommorow, he's out of danger.

[BSG]

I so hate meta defences...This seems like a 'too scummy to be most of the time scum' defence.
And can you please explain what happened to 'don't lynch Empking to safe me' to 'vote empking'?

Regarding post 62
For me it depends. I'm not going to state right now what I'd do, as my actions can be different when it comes down to it. But I'm in favor of judging both heads. I don't think it's fair to punish a very helping player who seems pro-town for the other head's behaviour.

As for claiming, both heads should if needed. If the second head is a PR, he shouldn't stay quiet with his claim when his other head is getting near a lynch. But I only want the second head to claim, when that body is at L-1. If there gets to be a switch of bandwagon, then the second head's role is still unknown if the body didn't get at L-1, but we would still know the claim of the first head.

[Braeden]

I agree with this plan.. although I am not sure how we would decide who is the scummiest?

[Kmd4390]

I agree with this plan.. although I am not sure how we would decide who is the scummiest?

Same as any other game...?

[Narsis]

huh? i have another head? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!


ok freek out aside...now what?

[animorpherv1]

hai all.

vote: Empking

for voting "me"

[forbiddanlight]

huh? i have another head? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!


ok freek out aside...now what?

K-Scope is marginalizing us. We voted for him and he refused to count it! I demand a protest.

Anyway

As for claiming, both heads should if needed. If the second head is a PR, he shouldn't stay quiet with his claim when his other head is getting near a lynch. But I only want the second head to claim, when that body is at L-1. If there gets to be a switch of bandwagon, then the second head's role is still unknown if the body didn't get at L-1, but we would still know the claim of the first head.

This seems to be a pretty good idea. I'd consider making the threshold L-2 in case of quicklynch, but otherwise this might work.

[Narsis]

huh? i have another head? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!


ok freek out aside...now what?

K-Scope is marginalizing us. We voted for him and he refused to count it! I demand a protest.

oh hey you are right!

[ortolan]

Apparently I was critiqued for prophesying what has actually come about.

Don't blame me for being prescient.

And my vote on Empking was, in fact, not 100% serious. I'm still getting no scum-reads on him.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

I mostly agree with BDG in 81.

Claims are how I would handle it...

For the lynches, I won't vote for a bandwagon (Me personally, not my other head.) unless both of the players are scummy, the fact is, we are "moving through old games we may have missed", so I doubt we will be two-headed for more than today and maybe tonight. The thing is, nothing is overly sure on D1, so lynching someone we truly think is scum may be bad if they are attached to a good pro-town player.

The simple fact is, if we really want to speculate on the setup, it might be better to go into night and hope we are de-double-headed and we end up with 9 tomorrow, instead of 7 (Or in the case of staying double-headed, 8 and 6 respectively.) because I doubt that scum are paired together, we would only have 1 shot at scum, and we would have 3/4 deaths.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

EBWODP: BSG, not BDG

[Empking's Alt]

Apparently I was critiqued for prophesying what has actually come about.

Don't blame me for being prescient.

And my vote on Empking was, in fact, not 100% serious. I'm still getting no scum-reads on him.

Yes, threy're voting me for acting scummy.

Half of them are voting you and one of my voters is just OMGUSing

Also, am I right in thinking that Ani OMGUSed me to L-2.

[Empking]

Apparently I was critiqued for prophesying what has actually come about.

Don't blame me for being prescient.

And my vote on Empking was, in fact, not 100% serious. I'm still getting no scum-reads on him.

Yes, threy're voting me for acting scummy.

Half of them are voting you and one of my voters is just OMGUSing

Also, am I right in thinking that Ani OMGUSed me to L-2.

[ShadowGirl]

The simple fact is, if we really want to speculate on the setup, it might be better to go into night and hope we are de-double-headed and we end up with 9 tomorrow, instead of 7 (Or in the case of staying double-headed, 8 and 6 respectively.) because I doubt that scum are paired together, we would only have 1 shot at scum, and we would have 3/4 deaths.

Are you suggesting a no-lynch?

[ShadowGirl]

Not that I've had time to more then skim the first few pages (I was at school.)

just a quick comment to avoid Empking possibly taking me to the gallows with him:

He has a scummy (very scummy) meta, please read his recent games and see how likely he is to be lynched versus how many times he actually is scum (no offense, Empking). Yes, I am trying to save my own skin here

I concur with this meta, since I've played in games with him, but I can't say I really advocate the usage of it. I'd say it's a null tell at best, but it seems odd to bring up the statistics of him being scum. And the fact that you have nearly three posts in a row of his history. o_O And why did you feel the need to vote him twice withing a seven minute span?

[ShadowGirl]

Not = Now.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

SG, that was setup speculation, I wanted to get other people's thoughts on a no-lynch, I don't necessarily think that we need one, but it is a choice in this situation.

[ShadowGirl]

Alright. It was the 'it might be better to go to night' that tripped me up.

[Santos]

Alright. It was the 'it might be better to go to night' that tripped me up.

Ha ha.

[ShadowGirl]

Alright. It was the 'it might be better to go to night' that tripped me up.

Ha ha.

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