Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Knight of Cydonia]

Wall-E's switch of vote as soon as Gamma called his actions "stupidesque" is worrying.
Netlava may claim to have read all of Gamma's posts when he voted him, but since he doesn't have any quotes beyond P6 at that point... ech.
I'm going to

Vote: Wall-E

for now for jumping wagons under the tiniest pressure, and simultaneously posting in a manner that gives him excuses to jump on a Gamma-wagon, an RF-wagon, or a corporate-wagon.

Vote Count:
Gamma - (1) Netlava
Knight of Cydonia - (0)
magisterrain - (0)
My Milked Eek - (0)
Netlava - (2) RestFermata, WhereIsTony
RestFermata - (1) Wall-E
Trumpet of Doom - (0)
Wall-E - (1) Knight of Cydonia
WhereIsTony - (0)

With 9 alive, 5 votes will end the day.

[Wall-E]

Mod, I think a two-week deadline for today might be in order. The town seems to be waiting around for someone to say, "Ok, I'm the scum." Let's get a fire started under this pot.

Anyone agree?

Noted.

[Wall-E]

Wall-E's switch of vote as soon as Gamma called his actions "stupidesque" is worrying.

Hi, I'm Wall-E.

I'm going to

Vote: Wall-E

for now for jumping wagons under the tiniest pressure, and simultaneously posting in a manner that gives him excuses to jump on a Gamma-wagon, an RF-wagon, or a corporate-wagon.

I use my vote for many things other than just scumhunting. I have stated my suspicions of four players in this game: My vote on Gamma was a warning; one which I waited for him to address to be sure he got the message. Your interpretations of my actions are befuddled, but I can see how you'd reach the conclusion you have.

[Netlava]

I think Gamma is a likely SK. His posts give me a bad vibe, and not to mention they are pretty anti-town. Plus, I find it really suspicious how he immediately assumes that my vote on him was some sort of grudge or something. It's a great way to deflect attention off the merits of the actual case. On the contrary, the "other" game was actually giving me a few doubts about Gamma, but now I feel better about my vote.

It was a reach, for sure.

How is it a reach?

Also, I noticed this on my second read-through:

I have a little challenge for the people suspicious of me- name one thing I've done scummy aside from random voting Atlas.

Seems like this post admits that the random voting of Atlas was scummy.

[My Milked Eek]

I think Gamma is a likely SK. His posts give me a bad vibe, and not to mention they are pretty anti-town.

Point out those posts please. And comment on them. Randomly spewing around an opinion that has been here since page 7-8 is easy, especially when not accompanied by some own input (other than gut feelings).

[My Milked Eek]

V/LA notice

I'm going on a weekend trip, I'll be back on Monday.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Gamma is not an SK. I'll bet my bollocks on it.

[Trumpet of Doom]

Scummy is things like scumtells. Anti-town is things like a vanilla townie using OMGUS.

They can be the same thing, but not always.

Gotcha. But there is a rather large amount of overlap between the two, and it sounds like Netlava's counting some actions in both categories.

I think Gamma is a likely SK.

In light of what happened on page 24 (short version in case you missed it: Gamma says he'll vig Budja, then at daybreak, Budja has quit the band), I see three possibilities:

1) Gamma is not a killing role, but there is another (non-mafia) killing role who wants to eliminate the mafia and feels so secure in Gamma's judgment of who is scum and who isn't that he's willing to kill whomever Gamma claims he'll kill. (Unlikely to the point that it doesn't even deserve serious consideration.)
B) Gamma is an SK who for some reason feels it in his best interest both to work with the town AND to claim his kills during twilight so that they won't be doc-protected. (Improbable at best, but still better than choice 1.)
III) Gamma is a vig who is claiming his kill during twilight so that they won't be doc-protected. (By far the most likely.)

Netlava, I was hoping you'd be a better player than corporate, but you haven't (or at least, it hasn't been noticeable). I second Eek's request for which of Gamma's posts are so suspicious (and please, from throughout the thread), and I could support a lynch of either you or Tony right now - I'm not really sure which of you is worse at the moment.

[Gamma]

LET ME EXPLAIN THE LOGIC IN POSTING LIKE AN IDIOT SUCH AS WHAT I JUST DID

-There are some things people pick up; how people poorplay, etc. Not that I'm saying I'm poor-playing, but some players tend to go straight for things they're familiar with, as opposed to not.

Netlava: see how I am not implying you're mafia?

[Gamma]

and

vote WhereIsTony

for not doing anything.

No shit, where is Tony

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hey, novel idea - ask for a prod on Tony, and vote for someone who is actually scummy. Just a thought.

[WhereIsTony]

sorry I have been around. I have been pretty busy and will try to make a lenghtier post.

So far I have seen nothing to change my vote.

My top two suspects are
Netlava and WallE

[Trumpet of Doom]

Speaking of getting prods on non-active players,

Mod: please prod magisterrain.

He hasn't posted at all in this thread, but he's been active onsite.

Done.

[WhereIsTony]

Wall E's 180 on gamma is a bit suspicious.

since he was railing against people not voting for their #1 suspect yesterdayrday

[Wall-E]

You're kidding, right?

He goes from about 3% scummy to about 20% scummy and now I have to vote for him?

How about you worry about your own vote, Tony.

[Wall-E]

Why are you suspicious of Netlava, Tony? Your inference is that you had EXACTLY enough time to read the thread and form an opinion but NOT QUITE enough to post full reasons why you suspect those you do, only to state said suspicions.

I'm not buying that.

Out with it.

[Gamma]

unvote

[RestFermata]

How about you worry about your own vote, Tony.

YOU'RE kidding, right? We're not supposed to hold people responsible for their votes and the things they say? Wow. That's scummy.

[Wall-E]

How about you worry about your own vote, Tony.

YOU'RE kidding, right? We're not supposed to hold people responsible for their votes and the things they say? Wow. That's scummy.

Is it?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yes. Your vote, i.e. where it is, why it's there, is one of the biggest scumtells possible. Tony is more than valid in commenting on your vote, and the fact you're trying to discourage it is scummy.
Happy with my vote.

[Wall-E]

Yes. Your vote, i.e. where it is, why it's there, is one of the biggest scumtells possible. Tony is more than valid in commenting on your vote, and the fact you're trying to discourage it is scummy.
Happy with my vote.

I meant it in the sense that I think HIS vote is messed up.

Don't try to read into my posts so much, I'm about as subtle as a sombrero.

[Trumpet of Doom]

Bump.

Don't try to read into my posts so much, I'm about as subtle as a sombrero.

Aww, but overinterpreting posts is half of what makes this game fun! Especially in cases like this, where people write posts that are very easy to misinterpret. (Wall-E is the one that springs to mind, but I'm sure I could find someone else if I bothered to look.)

Let's see if I can't revive this thread somehow... I've already stated that (and why) I could vote for either Tony or

corporate

Netlava. Given that Netlava is closer to lynch currently, I think it's probably going to make this game go faster if I

vote: Netlava

for L-2.

[Wall-E]

What is the case on corporate/Netlava?

[Wall-E]

Still waiting on Tony's answer.

[WhereIsTony]

Why are you suspicious of Netlava, Tony? Your inference is that you had EXACTLY enough time to read the thread and form an opinion but NOT QUITE enough to post full reasons why you suspect those you do, only to state said suspicions.

I'm not buying that.

Out with it.

I don't know where you get that inference. The opinion which i mentioned many times on day one. is that corporate was evasive and seemed hell bent on lynching atlas with no case.

He kept saying he would post one later, but never did.