Mafia 88- Return to New Catania- Game Over!

[Xylthixlm]

OGML: I do think you're town, but you really need to work on your aim.

[Hoopla]

As far as I can tell the momentum in this game consists entirely of lurker bandwagons.

Well, yes, thats the only momentum you've been adding. Scum.

Okay, I'll bite - what have you got on Xyl, OGML?

[Yosarian2]

I don't see how he killed the momentum.

Meh.

To be honest, I'm in too many games now; I didn't really mean to join 3 large games at once here in addition to the ones I was already in, it just sort of happened (and though I'm now dead in one of them at the moment, but another one that's been frozen since before Christmas just started up again so I'm going to have to re-read THAT...argh), and I was planning on waiting for the claim of his result he had promised, and then use that in doing a full re-read of the 40 pages of this game with that fact in mind, rather then actually do a full re-read now and then do it again after the claim. But that was also when I was assuming the claim was going to come in a week or so, once everyone had answered his question.

If he's really not going to claim his result today, I guess I'll buckle down and do a re-read, although I can't promise when I'll have time for it.

Anything specific you want me to look at, Claus?

[Elmo]

I'm not currently of the opinion that rereading will bring much new insight. Take that as you will.
Possibly in direct contradiction to the above, I really think the spontaneous groundswell around Seraphim for not very much stinks quite a bit, especially coupled with the number of people saying "oh, no, we should have lynched DH yesterday". (Yes, I know I'm voting Xyl.) I still have little real idea why a bunch of people thought Seraph was scummy enough to lynch over a claimed miller.

Having said that, I now understand Yos's stance, given a bit more thought. The simple fact is that I'm just not as convinced that DH is town, primarily because he seemed to be forever backing away from the "actually lynch me" part of his position. I could be convinced, though..?

[Claus]

Elmo

Convinced of Yos' stance, Elmo? Don't you think Yos stance now is quite similar
to the way he played in Dynamite Stick Mafia?

Yos:

I sympathize that you are without time for this game, but why do you choose to say that now, instead of the first time you refused to answer my questions about other players? I never asked you to reread, I was very specific and asked you only: Who do you think are possible partners to tubby, and what do you think about Sensfan, Natirasha, and Skitzer. The three of them are lurkers, so I don't think it would have taken all that much time to re-read them.

Basically, you tried to ridicule my questioning of you at first, but as other people didn't seem to follow you on that, you then tried to play the "oh poor me, sorry people. Claus, what do you want again?". Sorry Yos, not really buying it.

All

So just to recap.

My case on Yos:
- During D1, he was not very useful, prefering to join theoretical discussions to look towny, but not scumhunting.
- D2 he held himself to his lurker-suspicion of tubby, even though there were lots of more interesting stuff (even regarding tubby!) around.
- When I questioned him, he started by trying to shame me down, when that didn't work, tried the "sorry, was so busy!" card (mind you, you might actually BE busy, but scum also gets busy, and I feel that if you were town, you would have said that earlier, instead of trying to discourage me from questioning you at all).

Hope you get him tomorrow. Anyway, the game today is Natirasha:

Unvote. Vote Natirasha

He lurked most of the game yesterday, and yet, managed to have his vote in the middle of all big bandwagons. Still no one called him on it. So I investigated Nat, and he turned up guilty,

Volkann

By the way, this is why I made the "not malice" comment about sobeahero and CKD - he was one of the few players to actually question Nat about her lurky bandwagoning goodness.

[OhGodMyLife]

Unvote, Vote: Natirasha

[Xylthixlm]

unvote, vote natirasha

Die scum die, etc, etc.

[Xtoxm]

Unvote Vote Nat

[tubby216]

unvote, vote nat

[iamausername]

Unvote, Vote: Natirasha

That's one less replacment to find, eh?

[Der Hammer]

Vote:nat

[Yosarian2]

Elmo

Convinced of Yos' stance, Elmo? Don't you think Yos stance now is quite similar
to the way he played in Dynamite Stick Mafia?

Yos:

I sympathize that you are without time for this game, but why do you choose to say that now, instead of the first time you refused to answer my questions about other players? I never asked you to reread, I was very specific and asked you only: Who do you think are possible partners to tubby, and what do you think about Sensfan, Natirasha, and Skitzer. The three of them are lurkers, so I don't think it would have taken all that much time to re-read them.

Basically, you tried to ridicule my questioning of you at first, but as other people didn't seem to follow you on that, you then tried to play the "oh poor me, sorry people. Claus, what do you want again?". Sorry Yos, not really buying it.

Uh, I never ridiculed your questioning, and that's actually the second time I've asked you if there was something specific you wanted me to look at.

- During D1, he was not very useful, prefering to join theoretical discussions to look towny, but not scumhunting.

How can you possibly say I didn't scumhunt on day 1?

- D2 he held himself to his lurker-suspicion of tubby, even though there were lots of more interesting stuff (even regarding tubby!) around.

Ah, I see; you can say that because you didn't read my post. At least, you must not have, if you think my suspicion on tubby was primarailly because of lurking.

[Shanba]

Vote: natirasha

[Hoopla]

Vote: Natirasha

[Elmo]

Don't you think Yos stance now is quite similar to the way he played in Dynamite Stick Mafia?

Not that I can remember, no. What do you think the similarities are?

I don't understand why people are assuming Claus is not paranoid or lying, but on balance,

unvote

,

vote

:

Natirasha

. L-1.

[Xylthixlm]

Elmo: Correct play when a player claims cop with a guilty result early on is well-known. If he's lying, he gets lynched tomorrow. If he's paranoid, he gets lynched tomorrow.

[MafiaSSK]

Natirasha (10)-Claus,OGML,Xylthium,Xtoxm,tubby216, Iamausername,Der Hammer,Shanba,Hoopla,Elmo
militant (1): Ectomancer

Not voting: (Natirasha), vollkan, magisterrain, Yosarian2, militant, skitzer, (farside22), SensFan

[Yosarian2]

Ok, Natirasha. Any last words?

[Xtoxm]

He requested replacement in all his games a while back. We're not getting any last words.

[Yosarian2]

Oh, ok, didn't notice that.

Vote:Natirasha

[MafiaSSK]

Natirasha has been lynched. He was a Florida Mafia Goon. It is now Night.Send in actions by 72 hours from this post

[MafiaSSK]

The person(s) who have been killed shall be revealed tongiht. Sorry for the delay.

[MafiaSSK]

Claus has been killed, he was a Cop.

Shanba has been killed, he was a Townie.

Miltant has been killed, he was also a Cop

It is now Day III

[Claus]

Bah. I was enjoying the game.

[Xtoxm]

I thought you'd get doc'd