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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 am

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Because I'm already voting you, and I don't know what a cleric is or does, so it would be nice to have a description to base a decision of whether your claim is believable or not... anyone can throw out a role name, and you already lied about your claim, so it would be nice to know if your role is something that would justify a lie to protect.




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MonkeyMan - 7 (BSG, Rhinox, freeko, Occam, Raider, Sipylus, Korts)

Lunar Tick - 2 (Rogue Shenanigans, Kiro, MonkeyMan)
Occam - 1 (Prom King)

Not Voting - Lunar_Tick

With 12 left, 7 to lynch.

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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:32 am

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Lets see, I was on L-2, and claimed. Then everyone realized that lynching a mason is not a smart thing to do. Will I get NK'd, I most certainly think so. Its just a matter of time as to when.

Here you lie, then lie again, and hide every thing you can. Which shows every town player thats here that you are not with the town. If you are not anti-town then give a a reason to think thats the case. It might just get a few votes removed from you, but what do I know... It only happened to me in this game already.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:47 am

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Rhinox wrote:Because I'm already voting you, and I don't know what a cleric is or does, so it would be nice to have a description to base a decision of whether your claim is believable or not... anyone can throw out a role name, and you already lied about your claim, so it would be nice to know if your role is something that would justify a lie to protect.
Well, my role is provable, but I'd rather not do so at this point, my only safeguard against being killed is that the mafia doesn't know what I do.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:00 am

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You realize that if you get lynched, it wont matter what you do?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:01 am

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MM wrote: Well, my role is provable, but I'd rather not do so at this point, my only safeguard against being killed is that the mafia doesn't know what I do.
Well I'm not convinced, but I would still like to hear more discussion before someone hammers.

You're really just creating a WIFOM situation here. On one hand, mafia might nk you anyways because you imply you have such a powerful role - on the other hand, if you're not nked, maybe its because you are mafia.

If I was not voting for you now, I would not hammer until I heard a full role reveal, but I have not yet heard enough to justify removing my vote. I will leave it up to others to demand a full role reveal from you if they see fit, but I strongly urge nobody hammer until MM gives a full reveal.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:04 am

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freeko wrote:You realize that if you get lynched, it wont matter what you do?
Just adding on, its better for the town to have the mafia nk you than to get lynched for refusing to RC.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:06 am

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EBWOP:
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freeko wrote:You realize that if you get lynched, it wont matter what you do?
Just adding on, its better for the town to have the mafia nk you than to get lynched for refusing to RC
if you're really town
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correction in italics.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:37 am

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I've already rc'd and said I can prove my power, so if you don't want to give me a chance that's your mistake, not mine.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:09 pm

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You can't prove anything if you don't tell us what you're proving.

As far as your claim, you really haven't. You first lied, then threw out a role name that no one seems to know, and we're just supposed to take you at your word that you can prove your role?

For the record, if someone demands you claim (properly) or die, and you choose death, then it is most definitely your mistake and not the towns.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:13 pm

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I don't buy MM's claim AT ALL. This is beyond LAL - I hate policy lynches - but this is an obvious lie about his role. And there's no reason to lie in the way he did, then not explain your role when pressed. This is ridiculous.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:18 pm

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Nope, all I'm asking for is a chance to prove my role. I lied because I didn't want to get NK'd. If I full claim I'll probably get night killed. It's my fault I lied, it's the towns fault if they lynch me without giving me a chance to prove my role.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:35 pm

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MonkeyMan576 wrote:Nope, all I'm asking for is a chance to prove my role. I lied because I didn't want to get NK'd. If I full claim I'll probably get night killed. It's my fault I lied, it's the towns fault if they lynch me without giving me a chance to prove my role.
If you need a night to prove your claim then you have to tell us what it is you will do. If you are not saying what you will do because you will get nk'd then how will that change anything if you get lynched. If you really are town you would explain what you could do. Draw the nk and hope that someone can save you. Otherwise you will get lynched and you can only blame yourself.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:43 pm

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Notice: Temporary Twighlight right now - I thought I counted the hammer vote in the last page, so recounting to make sure.

Aside from that, Juls replaces Kiro. Welcome your replacement :D
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:44 pm

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/confirm in.... I will do a read and try to get some thoughts up ASAP.
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:47 pm

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It's confirmed. -->This<-- is the hammer vote, not an L-1.

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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:56 pm

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Mod Cutscene 2


As you walked down the path, you discussed who to blame for the death of Jebus the NPC. MonkeyMan immediately stood out as a killer - he seemed to be someone he claimed not to be.

At the end of the day, you arrive at the great tree. The perfect thing to use to lynch the lying bastard.


MonkeyMan, a Pagan Cleric, is dead.


MonkeyMan was an indifferent doctor, and being a Pagan and not with the church, he was also hated by you, only six votes to lynch.

Here's the deal now - you need to choose someone to keep watch for the night.
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-No one person can keep watch twice per night.
-First one to make a post with "Watch" bolded will watch, and night will start.
-If nobody volunteers to watch within 24 hours, the watch will be chosen by dice roll.

This, unlike morning decisions, is a constant with very little effect.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:00 pm

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Not sure if it matters or not but I am willing to watch but I do not wish to step on someone else's toes if they know something I do not.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:09 pm

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I'm happy to watch as well, lets not jump on this like RS did with the first post though.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:13 pm

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Rhinox wrote:Sorry MM. I remember Jebus posting this in the queue regarding this game. Since it was posted in the queue for all to read, before the game started, its info about the game we should all assume is truthful:
Jebus wrote:Which makes my game the only one currently open.

Which means that you people who may or may not be reading this should get over here and sign up.
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A note about this - There are no vanilla roles, but there are some that may appear vanilla, at first, to the people I gave the roles to. While this didn't really apply to MM, I'm still sorry I didn't catch that right away.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:16 pm

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I would suggest someone thats obv town, but then I do not have any ability or otherwise for this. Failing someone else having a relevant watching based ability.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:35 pm

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@freeko
- you wouldn't by any chance have an ulterior motive for wanting to watch do you? I imagine the only "obvious" townie at this stage would be you, no?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:58 pm

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I have done a read through but I may not be able to get a post up before twilight ends. I would like to suggest either Rhinox or Sipylus. There are a lot of questions about everybody else IMO and since my predecessor made a whopping 3 posts prior to his departure I wouldn't feel comfortable with taking the role.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:56 pm

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Wait, what exactly does the person on watch do?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:11 pm

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@siphylus: no, I dont have anything that makes me consider myself for being the watchman other than everyone knows im town right now. though it would not suprise me if someone simply had an ability that would be relevant to this sequence. If that is the case then I would defer to them.

@occam: good question...
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:21 pm

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I assumed it to be like a watcher:

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