Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:32 am

Xylthixlm wrote:There's something extremely strange with that votecount...
Tarhalindur wrote:
The Forty-First Vote Count (aka The "Do All Unvotes Work?" Vote Count)
... hmmmm.

unvote
testing.

TehVariable · Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:33 am

And IIRC, before the "No Unvote for You" votecount, you weren't voting anyone. You then revoted Kinetic which was back on, and no one has unvoted since.

Pesco47 · Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:35 am

I wouldn't mind acting on Kinetic after all that back and forth.

Vote M-M

(Kinetic). Lynching is faster than waiting for me to die.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:35 am

Look at where my vote is listed as being in the votecounts. It moves, but the vote totals don't change.

TehVariable · Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:37 am

Well, I'll see for myself shortly.

iamausername · Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:45 am

Tar, could you update the first page to reflect the fact that hp [leaves] replaced The Internet? And that I replaced Cephrir. And any other replacements that have happened that I haven't got to yet.

Still reading up, just noticed this omission.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:05 am

That would explain why those two haven't posted recently.

Kinetic · Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:20 am

Pesco47 wrote:I wouldn't mind acting on Kinetic after all that back and forth.
Vote M-M
(Kinetic). Lynching is faster than waiting for me to die.

-,-

Major scum vibes from Pesco... This delayed vig thing has always made me annoyed, but this possible hammer just makes me wonder what type of game he's playing.

Pesco47 · Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:25 am

Why does that just read like an OMGUS from you?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:26 am

Pesco, see if you can find a pattern in Kinetic's suspicions for today.

qwints · Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:30 am

I see I've been requested to do a pretty thorough read. I'll try to get to that tonight.

Quick summary:

xyl scummy becuase of the whole "What is town, anyway?" thing.
Kinetic - don't have a solid read. Normally I don't like the "confused by mechanics" excuse, but it is Mind Screw
M-M: not much activity to build a read on, don't like his hesitance to post the mafia role abilities
pop: the anger at being investigated is being suspicious

As to my ultimate condition, the only thing I will say is that I was trying to be annoying without being disruptive.

Tarhalindur · Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:52 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
Mod: Please prod malthusis, TehVariable, The Internet, Seraphim, Stef, Cephrir, and Electra

The Internet, Electra, and Cephrir have all been replaced (first post finally updated to reflect this). TehVariable has posted today and avoids prodding. Seraphim, Stef, and malthusis are being prodded as soon as I double-check that all are over the prod limit. - Tar

Seraphim · Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:33 pm

Don't bother: I'm here.

Unvote
Vote: M-M

Machiavellian-Mafia · Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:34 pm

I can't see how Kinetic is not scum now. Everyone needs to vote him.

populartajo · Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:39 pm

Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:I can't see how Kinetic is not scum now. Everyone needs to vote him.

I want to reread the game before but can you all unvote so I can be the first to vote Kinetic in case I cant make it?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:48 pm

unvote

in case it does anything useful

iamausername · Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:18 pm

Mafia safeclaim
Mafia falseclaim
Mafia kill
Mafia groupkill
Mafia factionkill
Mafia nightkill

YEAAAAAH. Almost done reading, as you can probably tell.

Kinetic · Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:11 pm

populartajo wrote:
Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:I can't see how Kinetic is not scum now. Everyone needs to vote him.
I want to reread the game before but can you all unvote so I can be the first to vote Kinetic in case I cant make it?

It doesn't matter pop. I'm not scum. -.-

The fact that I wasn't even given the option of claiming is pissing me off, but, what the hell, I've obviously keyed in on at least one scum (M-M I'm pretty sure of, but I'm not positive of others, perhaps Xyl)

Either M-M is completely blind (very possible) or scum. Lynch him after you kill me, kthx.

O yea, I'm pretty sure that hiding the rules is hurting the scum MUCH more than it is hurting the town. Read back guys, you figured out my role and as soon as you did I was keyed in on by several people. Look at them long and hard.

This game isn't over, although I might be lynched, so town I need you guys to stop pulling the wool over your eyes. This is mind screw, and you will gain a few advantages with my death (which is partially the reason I'm so torn about even defending myself, you'll see why soon), but I fear the scum may gain more. Be prepared for anything.

Tarhalindur · Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:28 pm

Point of Order!

"The Corps is your friend. Trust the Corps."

The Forty-Fifth Vote Count (aka The "Trust the Mod?" Vote Count)

2) Kinetic/Context (7) - populartajo
5) malthusis (1)
8) hasdgfas (rep. DragonsofSummer) (0)
10) TehVariable (0)
11) hp [leaves] (rep. The Internet who rep. pacman281292) (0) - skitzer
12) qwints (1)
16) ShadowGirl (0)
18) Seraphim (rep. XSilentSinX) (0)
20) populartajo (0) - Kinetic
21) Pesco47 (1)
22) Stef (0)
23) iamausername (rep. Cephrir) (1) - qwints, StrangerCoug
24) Xylthixlm (2) - hasdgfas
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) skitzer (rep. Electra) (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (1) - hp [leaves], Machiavellian-Mafia, hasdgfas, Pesco47, Seraphim

Not Voting (6): malthusis, TehVariable, ShadowGirl, Stef, iamausername, Xylthixlm

Votes required to lynch:

????

FoS Count:

2) Kinetic/Context (2) - TehVariable, skitzer
5) malthusis (0)
8) hasdgfas (rep. DragonsofSummer) (0)
10) TehVariable (0) -
11) hp [leaves] (rep. The Internet who rep. pacman281292) (0) -
12) qwints (1) - hp [leaves]
16) ShadowGirl (0)
18) Seraphim (rep. XSilentSinX) (0)
20) populartajo (0)
21) Pesco47 (1) - Seraphim
22) Stef (0)
23) iamausername (rep. Cephrir) (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) skitzer (rep. Electra) (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (1) - Kinetic

Not FoS'ing (12): malthusis, hasdgfas, hp [leaves], qwints, ShadowGirl, populartajo, Pesco47, Stef, iamausername, Xylthixlm, StrangerCoug, Machiavellian-Mafia

Current Deadline:

????

Lynch count has not been reached. Those of you who thought otherwise need to count better. I think.

End Point of Order!

malthusis · Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:34 pm

I'm here. I'm not really getting the case on Kinetic, could someone maybe summarize it for me (otherwise, why did you guys nearly lynch Kinetic)?

StrangerCoug · Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:40 pm

I'm not either, nor do I know why people have stopped going after Xylthixlm's definition of "town".

hasdgfas · Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:51 pm

(6)

@SC: I don't understand what you're saying about Xyl's definition of town. If you mean him going after qwints, from what I understand qwints apparently thinks that he needs to meet his ultimate condition to win, which doesn't make him town, as far as I'm aware. If you mean something else, could you explain?

I really don't like Pesco's or Seraphim's jump on the wagon like that. Maybe I shouldn't have unvoted Pesco.

Kinetic: You're not dead. Now explain yourself.

Kinetic · Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:59 pm

hasdgfas wrote:Kinetic: You're not dead. Now explain yourself.

I'm Mao.

I didn't learn this until my ultimate went off today. In fact, I didn't know my role until today, all I knew was that "I thought I was town". I literally had no idea if I was town, scum, neutral, etc, until today. Then I learned I'm Mao. The only thing I can think of here is that scum are losing a LOT more from not knowing the rules than the town. Either that or perhaps there is something else.

The fact that ever since someone speculated I might be Mao I've been a major target. Yesterday Kariyuu was the same. I can understand why town would want to lynch me (even though I am town, I am blocking the rules from being revealed), but I think that the scum in particular have a reason to kill me.

So yes, a decent amount of my suspicions have been omgus-y today, but that is because being suspicious of me is very scummy. Despite that, my suspicions so far have been placed mostly on people BEFORE they voted me.

Odd, how OMGUS works. You know, how I OMGUSed people before they voted me and all... Wait a second...

StrangerCoug · Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:27 am

hasdgfas wrote:(6)

@SC: I don't understand what you're saying about Xyl's definition of town. If you mean him going after qwints, from what I understand qwints apparently thinks that he needs to meet his ultimate condition to win, which doesn't make him town, as far as I'm aware. If you mean something else, could you explain?

It's related to what you're talking about. I'm referencing Xylthixlm's "town with an added win condition not being town" bit, and he dismissed my questioning it as my asking a philosophical question, which he has elaborated little on.

qwints · Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:09 am

hasdgfas wrote:(6)

from what I understand qwints apparently thinks that he needs to meet his ultimate condition to win,

I've never said that. I was trying to activate my ultimate because it is a useful ability (that is, it might help the town win), not as part of a win condition. I used a method that many would find annoying in order to try and activate it. Being annoying is often anti-town.

I win with the town with no added win condition.