Newbie 688 - Game Over, Mafia Wins!

[Alduskkel]

I propose we use this smiley whenever we're being sarcastic:

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Page 30 Votecount

mrfixij: (1/4) Alduskkel,
Alduskkel: (2/4) mrfixij, springlullaby,
Moses le fou: (1/4) CF Riot,
CF Riot: (0/4)
Battle Mage: (1/4) orangepenguin
springlullaby: (0/4)
orangepenguin: (2/4) Moses le fou, Battle Mage,

Not Voting: (0/7)

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch!
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Retractable deadline for Friday 23 January at 6:30 pm GMT+10.

[orangepenguin]

..or just be serious in general.

[mrfixij]

Anyways, I don't like Crysania's vote, and I never did like her gut anyways, since it pointed to me. Therefore, let's relocate that vote!

unvote
vote: CF Riot

Something about that interaction with OP makes OP look town and CF look scum.

[Alduskkel]

I'm not sure what the case on CF Riot is...

[orangepenguin]

Not saying that there isn't a case, but I've played enough games where scum play the perfect townie games. In those cases, there isn't a case, and that's how scum tend to win. CF, remember Double Day? You weren't originally Mafia, but like mrfixij, you were killed, and then replaced back into the same game, and nobody, but me, were suspicious of TSN, but because there was no case on him, nobody but me voted him the entire game.

unvote, vote:CF RIOT

Maybe there is a case. I don't know. I haven't made one or looked for one. Neither has mrfixij. Schez was pretty scummy, IMO - even though he wasn't the scummiest.

[orangepenguin]

Also, I still think BM & CF are probable partners, so I will also look for some kind of link between them.

[Alduskkel]

So you're voting for CF Riot but admit you have absolutely no case on him whatsoever?

FoS: orangepenguin

[orangepenguin]

orangepenguin: (2/4) Moses le fou, Battle Mage,

Oops. CF is going to jump on me for OMGUS reasons, and Aldus doesn't think there is a case, and will jump stupidly on the bandwagon. Even though I am honestly trying to pursue a possible case, I will be lynched before dawn, even though I am just a simple member of the town.

I always make the mistake of knowing one of the mafia, but never pursuing them because there isn't a obvious case or anything, and nobody else thinks they are scum, so I will not make that mistake again, even if I am lynched for it.

[Alduskkel]

Aldus doesn't think there is a case, and will jump stupidly on the bandwagon.

Incorrect. I'm sticking to my mrfixij vote, though you're certainly rising on my scum list fast. You seem to be bandwagoning at every possible point where it's possible.

Speaking of which, mrfixij, do you have any sort of rebuttal to my case on you (formerly Crysnia)?

OP, maybe if you stated your case on CF Riot I would be more convinced that you actually have a case on him.

[Alduskkel]

Oh, and SL, unless you actually back up your accusations against me, your vote is wasted where it is.

[mrfixij]

Crysania was a pretty terribad town player. Looking back, if I hadn't been NK'd, I'd have lynched her without knowing her role as I do now. Since I don't know her intent, I can't defend against any allegation. I can however tell you to get off me and vote for some real scum.

[Alduskkel]

So you're telling me to unvote you even though you admit that if you didn't know Crysnia's alignment you'd vote for her too? That's ridiculous.

[mrfixij]

Replacing back into a game is pretty ridiculous too imo. Sometimes the times dictate some ridiculousness in the face of rationality. *jazz hands*

[Alduskkel]

Actually I pretty much think of it as if Crysnia was the one killed on Night 1 and you've been with us this entire time.

So you basically have no defense at all of your predecessors actions? My vote stands.

[springlullaby]

I've changed my mind about OP, his last post reads natural independently of content.

What does this mean?

Uncounterclaimed doc has still a better chance of not being scum.

Can you back this up at all?

1. It means that I've decided he reads town.

2. Actually I can't and you are right in that he doc claim changes nothing.

I'm pretty sure I moved my vote to CF riot somwhere but no matter.

Unvote, vote CF Riot.

Sticking to my gut on Schez.

That's L-1

[mrfixij]

unvote

Giving these events some time to mull over before I let anyone hammer.

[Alduskkel]

So OP is voting for CF Riot for no reason that I can discern and SL is voting for CF Riot based off of gut alone.

SL, surely after 30 pages of discussion you can vote based on something other than gut? Your vote on me would be better if only because it is not based on gut. But really, if you don't think I'm scum anymore and have no other reads besides gut, why not vote for mrfixij? I've proven that Crysnia twisted mrfixij's words. Surely that's better than gut?

FoS: SL

for taking someone to L-1 based off of gut. That sort of Town play (assuming you're Town, which I am for the purposes of this lecture) will only result in our loss.

[springlullaby]

Lol, I'd like to see what CF-Riot has to say to Alduskkel post above.

Mrfixij, why vote only to unvote at L-1. That's pure crap play.

[springlullaby]

Btw, I don't think you aren't scum anymore Alduskel.

[Alduskkel]

Mrfixij, why vote only to unvote at L-1. That's pure crap play.

It's called a "pressure vote." You should try it sometime. I've done it before.

Why don't you think I'm scum anymore? It's almost as if you realize my bandwagon isn't picking up steam so you're switching to a more suitable target.

[Alduskkel]

Btw, I don't think you aren't scum anymore Alduskel.

Oops, got confused by the double negative. Sorry!

[springlullaby]

Pressure voting = very scummy in my books.

There is no such things as pressure vote because if you are town, any time you vote, you must be voting for the one person you think is the likeliest scum. Which means that you should be willing for your vote to go to a lynch.

I'm certainly not trying 'pressure voting' any time soon.

[Alduskkel]

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on the Pressure Voting thing. I think it can get good reactions, and is thus a useful tool.

Anyway, what do you say to this?

It's almost as if you realize my bandwagon isn't picking up steam so you're switching to a more suitable target.

I mean, you're voting based on gut on PAGE THIRTY. Don't you have anything better than gut after all that discussion? Why is your gut better than your case on me?

[springlullaby]

1.Prove me what's wrong with voting based on gut on page thirty first then you get to use caplocks.

2.Because gut is high risk high reward. Because gut is what you want to do deep down anyway, which is always more satisfying.

[Alduskkel]

I use Shift.

Well SL, has your gut been reliable in the past?