Mini Normal 2334: trees (Day 6)

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

also wrt cases? no i dont do those, what I've given is what you get. cases are ineffective and if you need to "case" someone, chances are you're pushing a townie and just adding a bunch of confbias to it. for some people it works but its not my playstyle.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

id like to think the way i treated ming throughout the day is fairly unpairing in how I treated the slot and where I ended up .

i know i wasn't directly on the ming push or voting there but ming was a poe vote that grew stronger the worse ming looked at eod, i tend to prefer to vote my most likely scum suspect and would have likely ended up on ming there.

probably my ego speaking but i think i was a factor in making ming freeze up once a person he thought he was pocketing started asking difficult questions here:

i think im back to fully townreading dann again btw
elements actually somewhat towny in recent posts

hu tao still my preferred elim here, awesomeming is slipping a little


rational still beating the same scumread into the ground is pretty cringe but the overall readslist that finally shows some holistic thought gives them a day 1 pass for me at this point

I agree with kayjay scum

can you explain why? I don't really see how you reached this honestly based on your progression?

can you post a full reads list whenever you have a chance so I can see where you are at here?

like directly after this is where ming like deadass falls off the face of the planet and i think that just straight up should spew me town

Wdym Ming was pockting you, he litterally never talked to you

UM ACKTUALLY TECKNICALLY NOT A POCKET LOLZ

you and i both know what I meant by that

[Gypyx]

Anyways, of course smiley is going to be biased, and i don't know why you're acting as if it's unlikely he's my scumpartner when there was a nokill with you and him blocked, probably because you know he isn't but oh well that's just me painting worlds here

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

smiley i feel like ur putting a significant higher standard on me over elements slot and its showing in how you are treating the few points that go for elements and the few points that go against me.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

Anyways, of course smiley is going to be biased, and i don't know why you're acting as if it's unlikely he's my scumpartner when there was a nokill with you and him blocked, probably because you know he isn't but oh well that's just me painting worlds here

me when I try to pretend like jailkeeper can't save kills (im gypyx and I read thomith as PR)

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

(hell could have been as simple as mafia thought smiley was a threat themselves)

[Gypyx]

Now is that really the reasonable assumption to make, why is there no trace of smiley suspicion in your posts, not saying it's equivalent to a full guilty, but we're at a 90% of smiley being my partner and yet your talk with him shows that you're really only thinking of him as a biased townie

[Gypyx]

The fact that you care so little about who my partner is also (imo) is pretty telling about your priorities, your shot at winning the game is today, but you've shown awareness that the odds are stacked against you, therefore you wanna avoid spewing your partner

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

Now is that really the reasonable assumption to make, why is there no trace of smiley suspicion in your posts, not saying it's equivalent to a full guilty, but we're at a 90% of smiley being my partner and yet your talk with him shows that you're really only thinking of him as a biased townie

"why wont you pair me with a townie now so i can win if i lose my cc?!!!!"

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

@smiley stop throwing the game bc you wanna play mech roulette.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

I'll say that imo gibido is a likely partner in this scenario as their vote for dgb felt forced in that moment. like their gameplay up to that point would have pointed towards voting me there, as well as their words but it seemed they were forced to vote for dgb there rather than vote me.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

from last dayphase but nothing significantly changed other than the dgb flip as my reads on those slots were independent on dgbs alignment, as it made sense for separate reasons fmpov.

[Gypyx]

You're litterally showing some of the most blatant TMI ever and if you get away with it i will make a pixel art of every townie's avatar in minecraft to blow them up with TNT

Otherwise, who's my partner then, please enlighten me

[Gypyx]

Really wish we had more input from everyone in the sidelanes tbh

[Gypyx]

7 more days of this shit

ELO is exhausting ~_~

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

my finals week JUST came to a close btw (I passed all my classes) and I have a lot of work hours over the weekend, I am trying my best to push through and I just don't have the time to reread stuff and don't feel it will largely change my conclusions (I have reread stuff fwiw mainly d1 to reverify things, and it DID resolidify my opinions)

if other people truly need me to do the song and dance of reading the game and making a "case" I'll happily do it on Monday but I genuinely cannot do so earlier. I don't have the luxury of being able to focus on just "solving for last" as I have to also win a cc with my guilty. one that should be clear to other townies is real atp and occams razor points to gypyx being mafia here, if you don't pull the assumption that mafia have no reason to kill thomith slot. i think smiley's contributions and effort have shown that there was indeed incentive for mafia to shoot there if they were aware of how smiley plays - and that should be taken into account.

its literally just gypyx/gibido here. gibido has been basically a nothingburger nearly all game and then came in to help push over dgb in a tvt wagon in a super scummy way on top of the only other contribution I can remember is their d2 being outing what dann said in the hood which struck me as odd at the time but in retrospect it makes sense bc he was IMO just saying things - in that it was just repeating what dann maybe said but really not caring for it.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

You're litterally showing some of the most blatant TMI ever and if you get away with it i will make a pixel art of every townie's avatar in minecraft to blow them up with TNT

Otherwise, who's my partner then, please enlighten me

TMI is when I have a consistent read on a slot from the previous dayphase

[Gypyx]

Yeah, cause it's not reasonable for you to have this read and we both know it

as it is MELo though you need every vote you can get, and antagonizing smiley goes against your wincon

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

i brought the receipts, shoulda checked my stances before you tried that angle

[Gypyx]

Grovyle unironically doing a "nuh uh"

[Gypyx]

also maybe y'all aren't seeing it, but i find it quite obvious how grovyle obviously has to do some mental effort to try to and talk to me as if he's convinced that i'm scum, it's so exagerrated and deliberate that i find it pretty clear to be a fabrication

[Gypyx]

like, Grovyle is pretty much saying straight up "yeah you're mafia" in all of his posts, it's very unsubtle and a direct way to call me out, if you're legitimately in a 1v1 with someone, finding the other person scum should come way more naturally than needing to resort to straight up saying it

i don't know if i'm making my point clear

[Gibdo]

So in the last day... between DGB and DrNick, the NK was definitely stopped, as their targets were Grovyle and Smiley, respectively. Since DGB and DrNick have both flipped town we can confirm this is the case. This would also mean that Grovyle and Smiley should be going for each other's throats right now, as if either of them are town, they would know that a scum role lies with the other person... the only way both of them would be ignoring this is if they are red together.

[Gibdo]

Is anything about that incorrect?

[Gibdo]

This is why Grovyle suddenly harping on Gypyx from a "guilty" is so strange to me.